How Long is Too Long? Left-Over Bike

tnr4 · August 9th, 2013, 08:02 PM

Soooo... as some of you have seen, thinking about buying a GSX650F for my next bike. They stopped bringing them to the states after '09, and they are super underrated, IMO, so there are darn few available. Been searching pretty wide, thinking I may do a 'fly and ride' if I found the right one. Then I came across the oldest new bike I've seen: a NEW 2008 GSXF.

So this is weird. I was all ready to buy a used bike. But I can get 'new' for $500-1000 more, depending on how much they'll come down (which ought to be pretty much anything... I mean, how long are they gonna' sit on this?!). I've bought left-over models before, and they can be a great deal; but is this too old? Obviously, there's been no gas in it, and a battery is easy to check, but would they have other fluids in there that can go bad in 5 years? What about tires? Even if the bike was moved enough to not flat-spot, does the carcass eventually just age out of its prime?

Whatcha' think?

Snake · August 9th, 2013, 08:10 PM

Unless your a collector of older bikes I would pay the extra for the comfort and technology of new.

verboten1 · August 9th, 2013, 09:29 PM

Tires might be ok, if they weren't in the sun, but after 5 years, might need replacing if they are cracked, one of my bikes sat for 3 years, tires still looked and felt new though.

The rest doesn't go bad, except it will need a battery, I'm sure.

I would probably change the brake fluid, but I would chose it over used for a slight it more if I were the one buying

eddiekay · August 10th, 2013, 08:01 AM

I have a similar situation on a leftover.
After 5+ years the dealer has lost, depending on his particular return on inventory, probabaly the cost of the bike. Just arithmetic. And...it becomes harder to sell every day. Still...he's prob wriiten it off so at this point the bike is prob non-existent in terms of accounting.. Depending on what he's asking....I'd offer cash less than MSRP of 2008. If dealer is out of your state, check exactly what your state requires to register bike and if poss...take a handwritten bill of sale. The dealer is likely to hide the sale anyway.. You've done nothing illegal as long as you pay your state sales tax either on the price you paid or the state's minimum value of the vehicle.
At the same time rememeber...if this has been in his warehouse for 5 years....he's not too anxious to sell it.

Aodrn · August 10th, 2013, 09:55 AM

Technically you will need new tires, although people ride on ten year old tires all the time. Brake fluid, coolant, oil are a must to avoid deterioration of parts. I would open up the master cylinder and look for rust. Brake fluid sucks water like a sponge.

Motofool · August 10th, 2013, 10:02 AM

I would buy the "new" one.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ho...uki_gsx_650_f/

You never know how much any bike has been abused.

c-dog · August 10th, 2013, 11:02 AM

Great find! I'd get it if I were you. It's great to get a better deal on a leftover. I saved like $3k on my leftover 2011.

tnr4 · August 10th, 2013, 12:34 PM

Thanks all! Yes talked to my wife about it today and she leaned towards new also. So as long as its still there in two weeks I think it'll be mine.

michael t · August 10th, 2013, 12:41 PM

A idiot friend of mine just rode from Ky to Fl on his HD He callws ne to tell me he made it But tires were starting to throw chunks of tread . I as how old tire were he sais 11years .

I told him he was nuts His answer hey they looked good and held air, I here aren't I . He is replacing before start home.

August 9th, 2013, 08:02 PM	#1
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	How Long is Too Long? Left-Over Bike Soooo... as some of you have seen, thinking about buying a GSX650F for my next bike. They stopped bringing them to the states after '09, and they are super underrated, IMO, so there are darn few available. Been searching pretty wide, thinking I may do a 'fly and ride' if I found the right one. Then I came across the oldest new bike I've seen: a NEW 2008 GSXF. So this is weird. I was all ready to buy a used bike. But I can get 'new' for $500-1000 more, depending on how much they'll come down (which ought to be pretty much anything... I mean, how long are they gonna' sit on this?!). I've bought left-over models before, and they can be a great deal; but is this too old? Obviously, there's been no gas in it, and a battery is easy to check, but would they have other fluids in there that can go bad in 5 years? What about tires? Even if the bike was moved enough to not flat-spot, does the carcass eventually just age out of its prime? Whatcha' think?

August 9th, 2013, 09:29 PM	#3
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August 10th, 2013, 10:02 AM	#6
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August 9th, 2013, 08:10 PM	#2
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	Unless your a collector of older bikes I would pay the extra for the comfort and technology of new.

August 10th, 2013, 08:01 AM	#4
eddiekay ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: eddie Location: Lawnguylind Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 300, WeeStrom Posts: A lot.	I have a similar situation on a leftover. After 5+ years the dealer has lost, depending on his particular return on inventory, probabaly the cost of the bike. Just arithmetic. And...it becomes harder to sell every day. Still...he's prob wriiten it off so at this point the bike is prob non-existent in terms of accounting.. Depending on what he's asking....I'd offer cash less than MSRP of 2008. If dealer is out of your state, check exactly what your state requires to register bike and if poss...take a handwritten bill of sale. The dealer is likely to hide the sale anyway.. You've done nothing illegal as long as you pay your state sales tax either on the price you paid or the state's minimum value of the vehicle. At the same time rememeber...if this has been in his warehouse for 5 years....he's not too anxious to sell it.

August 10th, 2013, 09:55 AM	#5
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	Technically you will need new tires, although people ride on ten year old tires all the time. Brake fluid, coolant, oil are a must to avoid deterioration of parts. I would open up the master cylinder and look for rust. Brake fluid sucks water like a sponge.

August 10th, 2013, 11:02 AM	#7
c-dog ninjette.org sage Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: 591	Great find! I'd get it if I were you. It's great to get a better deal on a leftover. I saved like $3k on my leftover 2011.

August 10th, 2013, 12:34 PM	#8
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	Thanks all! Yes talked to my wife about it today and she leaned towards new also. So as long as its still there in two weeks I think it'll be mine.

August 10th, 2013, 12:41 PM	#9
michael t ninjette.org member Name: michael Location: outback Ky Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja , 2011 Raider S 113 cubic inches of V twin attitude , 2008 Honda Rebel The slow 250 Posts: 15	A idiot friend of mine just rode from Ky to Fl on his HD He callws ne to tell me he made it But tires were starting to throw chunks of tread . I as how old tire were he sais 11years . I told him he was nuts His answer hey they looked good and held air, I here aren't I . He is replacing before start home.