GSXR shock swap questions

subxero · February 19th, 2014, 02:10 PM

So I have gone through countless GSXR shock threads and still can't make up my mind if it is something I should do or not.

Is the mod worth it?
Does anyone here recommend it?

For the people who have done it what are your thoughts?

tooblekain · February 19th, 2014, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

So I have gone through countless GSXR shock threads and still can't make up my mind if it is something I should do or not.

Is the mod worth it?
Does anyone here recommend it?

For the people who have done it what are your thoughts?

Definately worth it. The only reason I am not running a gixxer shock is because I got a Racetech one...but I have my gixxer rear shock as back up.

csmith12 · February 19th, 2014, 02:58 PM

Here is the deal, maybe you can learn from my mistakes.

On the stock bits, both front and rear the bike is kinda funky at pace but it tolerable. Once you upgrade the rear, the stock front will TOTALLY suck. If you upgrade the front bits only, the bike is better than tolerable.

Now... if you upgrade them both... now your talkin'.

My mistake was that the gsxr shock upgrade is so cheap and easy, I did it before the front and paid for it on the track with slower lap times.

If your just streetin' it, then if you you set it soft and dial in the damping and rebound to your preferences, your rewarded with more enjoyable seat time with less recovery time needed after rides.

tooblekain · February 19th, 2014, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Here is the deal, maybe you can learn from my mistakes.

On the stock bits, both front and rear the bike is kinda funky at pace but it tolerable. Once you upgrade the rear, the stock front will TOTALLY suck. If you upgrade the front bits only, the bike is better than tolerable.

Now... if you upgrade them both... now your talkin'.

My mistake was that the gsxr shock upgrade is so cheap and easy, I did it before the front and paid for it on the track with slower lap times.

If your just streetin' it, then if you you set it soft and dial in the damping and rebound to your preferences, your rewarded with more enjoyable seat time with less recovery time needed after rides.

Plus one!!! Forgot to add that I also have emulators. Emulators are cheap and if you have a drill press you can do the install yourself.

ninjamunky85 · February 19th, 2014, 03:35 PM

Gixxer shock was one of the first mods I did to my 300. Difference is night and day IMO, definitely worth the $40 I paid for the shock plus the cost of hardware.

P.S. I just remembered that I sold my stock shock for $40, so overall cost was very little

subxero · February 19th, 2014, 05:06 PM

All sounds good. So yes there are several gsxr swap threads but no DIY. I think i have the jest of it from reading other threads but one thing i am unsure of is the dog bones. So i will need to buy a set of dog bones that will work right?

Which ones do you guys use and where did you get them from?

csmith12 · February 19th, 2014, 05:10 PM

You will need a set of bones to keep stock height or adjust per your needs, I got mine from Rexbo.

Trailerboy531 · February 19th, 2014, 05:27 PM

How fat are you? Gixxer shock may be over kill for some.

Rexbo no longer provides dog bones so that makes life harder, fyi.

subxero · February 19th, 2014, 05:36 PM

right now i am hovering right around 180lbs and have dreams of getting down to 170

Yeah i seen that rexbo does not make the bones anymore which lead to me wondering what i would end up doing.

iamjacob · February 19th, 2014, 05:57 PM

+

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or even

If you can turn a wrench you can shape steel.

Sorry for the giant images, I could figure out how to make 'em any smaller.

ChrisJuliano · February 19th, 2014, 06:16 PM

I ordered 1"-1.25" (he sells 1", I had him make me 1.25 or close to it" rise dogbones from a guy for $35ish shipped.

I have been waiting for a little over a week and a half and have not recieved them yet (sorta expected for custom specs given to him) so when I do get ill let you guys know how they are.

Burkhartcycle.com I think it was.

I just got a text from him saying they sent out this morning!!!! WOOT!

Trailerboy531 · February 19th, 2014, 06:17 PM

I think he wants you to get a bone from a pet store and drill a hole in it.

could work.

subxero · February 19th, 2014, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJuliano

I ordered 1"-1.25" (he sells 1", I had him make me 1.25 or close to it" rise dogbones from a guy for $35ish shipped.

I have been waiting for a little over a week and a half and have not recieved them yet (sorta expected for custom specs given to him) so when I do get ill let you guys know how they are.

Burkhartcycle.com I think it was.

I just got a text from him saying they sent out this morning!!!! WOOT!

Nice definitely post up once you get them.

What size would be best to keep bike in stockish position?
What made you go with the 1" and 1.25"?

what about these bad boys? junk?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-08-09-10...b73bc7&vxp=mtr

subxero · February 19th, 2014, 06:52 PM

I have a little cash to spend (not much) and was originally planning on dumping it into farkles but after reading a bit i am thinking it will go into the front forks. **** aint cheap but will definitely be worth it.

I still need to send my dirt bike forks out to get revalved and setup ect… but i don't have to do anything and it only costs $200 bucks.

Question regarding gsxr shock, should i be looking for a particular year or will they all roughly fit the same even newer ones?

ForceofWill · February 19th, 2014, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJuliano

I ordered 1"-1.25" (he sells 1", I had him make me 1.25 or close to it" rise dogbones from a guy for $35ish shipped.

I have been waiting for a little over a week and a half and have not recieved them yet (sorta expected for custom specs given to him) so when I do get ill let you guys know how they are.

Burkhartcycle.com I think it was.

I just got a text from him saying they sent out this morning!!!! WOOT!

Assuming he has the specs now for the dogbones for our bike, I'm gonna get some from him since my shock is on the way.

What name and specs did you give him? IE, how should I reference this piece if when I talk to him.

LoD575 · February 19th, 2014, 09:02 PM

I have been following shock swaps as well. First is to replace front springs and oil then go for the rear.

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

Assuming he has the specs now for the dogbones for our bike, I'm gonna get some from him since my shock is on the way.

What name and specs did you give him? IE, how should I reference this piece if when I talk to him.

He has 1" raise dogbones, I think 1.25 would be perfect since I think itll be very close to stock since I am lightweight and my gsxr shocks preload is set litearlly whole way up (1 3/4" of sag for me) so my rear dropped alot.

If you are more weight you may be able to get 1"

He has them on his website just search, if you want something custom in the messages I wrote what I wanted and emailed him. You can email him first if you want.

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

Nice definitely post up once you get them.

What size would be best to keep bike in stockish position?
What made you go with the 1" and 1.25"?

what about these bad boys? junk?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-08-09-10...b73bc7&vxp=mtr

Those and almost everything on the market lower it.

The longer they are the lower the bike will go, the shorter and the higher itll go. No one makes raised ones for the ninja most lower 1-4" this is the only one I can find other than rexbo which does not sell them anymore.

Somchai · February 20th, 2014, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJuliano

No one makes raised ones

Wrong, in Germany you can get this one for 35 USD (he's shipping worldwide and I'd send a email a while ago asking about size, he'll make each size you tell him, remember its mm not inch) http://www.ebay.de/itm/Heck-Hoherleg...item27bc02038d

And I post this link the second time now, where you can get some: http://japan.webike.net/ps/#!p.m=5921&p.c=1080&p.sk=1

ForceofWill · February 20th, 2014, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJuliano

He has 1" raise dogbones, I think 1.25 would be perfect since I think itll be very close to stock since I am lightweight and my gsxr shocks preload is set litearlly whole way up (1 3/4" of sag for me) so my rear dropped alot.

If you are more weight you may be able to get 1"

He has them on his website just search, if you want something custom in the messages I wrote what I wanted and emailed him. You can email him first if you want.

I just emailed them and asked, didn't see the option anywhere on the site, just lowering links.

Thanks for the heads up though!

subxero · February 20th, 2014, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

I have a little cash to spend (not much) and was originally planning on dumping it into farkles but after reading a bit i am thinking it will go into the front forks. **** aint cheap but will definitely be worth it.

I still need to send my dirt bike forks out to get revalved and setup ect… but i don't have to do anything and it only costs $200 bucks.

Question regarding gsxr shock, should i be looking for a particular year or will they all roughly fit the same even newer ones?

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 01:15 PM

Thats weird they were just on his site. I am going to talk to him and see if he took them off or what.

ninjamunky85 · February 20th, 2014, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

Question regarding gsxr shock, should i be looking for a particular year or will they all roughly fit the same even newer ones?

My shock was from an '07 I believe. I don't know if the year matters, I'm sure it does I just don't know what years don't fit. Make sure that it is from a 600/750cc though cause the shock from the 1000 won't fit.

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 01:42 PM

Hes adding it tonight for you guys.

What height would you guys want this to be raised. I can make him make one with multiple holes maybe, one for 1"-1.5"?

csmith12 · February 20th, 2014, 01:43 PM

Use a 07, 08 or 09 they all are the same length (315mm).

subxero · February 20th, 2014, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJuliano

Hes adding it tonight for you guys.

What height would you guys want this to be raised. I can make him make one with multiple holes maybe, one for 1"-1.5"?

IDK, what would I need to be at stock height, or just a hair above?

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 02:16 PM

Not sure, when mine come I can find out though when I install them. I got 1.25" raise I think.

ForceofWill · February 20th, 2014, 03:31 PM

Multiple holes would be awesome(heh), I'm like 190 with gear on so I'd try 1-1.25

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 03:40 PM

Ill talk to him maybe he can make something up.

csmith12 · February 20th, 2014, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

Multiple holes would be awesome(heh), I'm like 190 with gear on so I'd try 1-1.25

Question Tom. Why would you raise your ride height based on weight or is there more to your thoughts?

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 04:07 PM

Cssmith for me since I am light I had to get rid of all the preload the gsxr shock allows, which made it very low to get my sag right around 1 1/2 to 1 3/4. So my rear end was so low that I wanted it to be about a quarter of a inch higher than stock so figured 1.25" was just about right.

Hence why I choose to raise my bike 1.25" with the dogbones. Then I will ahve a great ride height since I want it to have a little bit of rake so it turns in quick.

old3 · February 20th, 2014, 04:33 PM

Anyone know the ratio of dogbone change to actual bike ride height? What distance between dog bone lengths equals 1" of ride height lift?

This could be as simple as drilling new holes in stock arms, no?

alex.s · February 20th, 2014, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old3

Anyone know the ratio of dogbone change to actual bike ride height? What distance between dog bone lengths equals 1" of ride height lift?

This could be as simple as drilling new holes in stock arms, no?

0.559 with the stock 08+ knuckle. no idea on 300 or pregen

old3 · February 20th, 2014, 05:28 PM

Great place to start, thanks!

ForceofWill · February 20th, 2014, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

Question Tom. Why would you raise your ride height based on weight or is there more to your thoughts?

Wasn't really just based on my weight. It's just I haven't seen a whole lot of concrete on the GSXR subject and I didn't wanna not be able to get there with a certain length riser and the shocks available pre-load.

Was thinking I would get both links or if he'll make them one with two holes at 1 and 1.25 so I can play around with it.

csmith12 · February 20th, 2014, 05:45 PM

That's cool, normally riders buy springs based on weight and then adjust ride height other many other factors.

ChrisJuliano · February 20th, 2014, 06:21 PM

I am going to keep the stock spring and see how it is, I may just have to replace the spring.

alex.s · February 20th, 2014, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoD575

I have been following shock swaps as well. First is to replace front springs and oil then go for the rear.

an unbalanced bike is worse than an incorrectly sprung balanced bike. do both front and back at the same time.

ForceofWill · February 20th, 2014, 06:27 PM

Same. I'm gonna get the front put together and the gsxr and see how it does from there. If I need a new spring I can adjust after. I'm gonna be changing so much at once and I'm really not a bike suspension guru(more of a car guy) so I'm gonna have to start here and try and dial in what I can.

subxero · February 21st, 2014, 12:03 PM

anyone know how much lower the bike is with the gsxr shock and stock dog bones?

February 19th, 2014, 02:10 PM	#1
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	GSXR shock swap questions So I have gone through countless GSXR shock threads and still can't make up my mind if it is something I should do or not. Is the mod worth it? Does anyone here recommend it? For the people who have done it what are your thoughts? __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

February 19th, 2014, 02:58 PM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Here is the deal, maybe you can learn from my mistakes. On the stock bits, both front and rear the bike is kinda funky at pace but it tolerable. Once you upgrade the rear, the stock front will TOTALLY suck. If you upgrade the front bits only, the bike is better than tolerable. Now... if you upgrade them both... now your talkin'. My mistake was that the gsxr shock upgrade is so cheap and easy, I did it before the front and paid for it on the track with slower lap times. If your just streetin' it, then if you you set it soft and dial in the damping and rebound to your preferences, your rewarded with more enjoyable seat time with less recovery time needed after rides. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 19th, 2014, 03:35 PM	#5
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	Gixxer shock was one of the first mods I did to my 300. Difference is night and day IMO, definitely worth the $40 I paid for the shock plus the cost of hardware. P.S. I just remembered that I sold my stock shock for $40, so overall cost was very little __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

February 19th, 2014, 05:06 PM	#6
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	All sounds good. So yes there are several gsxr swap threads but no DIY. I think i have the jest of it from reading other threads but one thing i am unsure of is the dog bones. So i will need to buy a set of dog bones that will work right? Which ones do you guys use and where did you get them from? __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

February 19th, 2014, 05:10 PM	#7
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	You will need a set of bones to keep stock height or adjust per your needs, I got mine from Rexbo. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 19th, 2014, 05:27 PM	#8
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	How fat are you? Gixxer shock may be over kill for some. Rexbo no longer provides dog bones so that makes life harder, fyi. __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

February 19th, 2014, 05:36 PM	#9
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	right now i am hovering right around 180lbs and have dreams of getting down to 170 Yeah i seen that rexbo does not make the bones anymore which lead to me wondering what i would end up doing. __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

February 19th, 2014, 05:57 PM	#10
iamjacob ninjette.org guru Name: Jacob Location: Stockton, CA Join Date: Dec 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R SE Posts: 326	+ + = or even If you can turn a wrench you can shape steel. Sorry for the giant images, I could figure out how to make 'em any smaller. Last futzed with by iamjacob; February 19th, 2014 at 06:15 PM. Reason: typos

February 19th, 2014, 06:16 PM	#11
ChrisJuliano ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Pittsburgh PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 96	I ordered 1"-1.25" (he sells 1", I had him make me 1.25 or close to it" rise dogbones from a guy for $35ish shipped. I have been waiting for a little over a week and a half and have not recieved them yet (sorta expected for custom specs given to him) so when I do get ill let you guys know how they are. Burkhartcycle.com I think it was. I just got a text from him saying they sent out this morning!!!! WOOT!

February 19th, 2014, 06:17 PM	#12
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	I think he wants you to get a bone from a pet store and drill a hole in it. could work. __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

February 19th, 2014, 06:52 PM	#14
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	I have a little cash to spend (not much) and was originally planning on dumping it into farkles but after reading a bit i am thinking it will go into the front forks. **** aint cheap but will definitely be worth it. I still need to send my dirt bike forks out to get revalved and setup ect… but i don't have to do anything and it only costs $200 bucks. Question regarding gsxr shock, should i be looking for a particular year or will they all roughly fit the same even newer ones? __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

February 19th, 2014, 09:02 PM	#16
LoD575 ninjette.org sage Name: Steve Location: Valdosta GA, US Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX6R-636 Posts: 661	I have been following shock swaps as well. First is to replace front springs and oil then go for the rear.

February 20th, 2014, 01:15 PM	#22
ChrisJuliano ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Pittsburgh PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 96	Thats weird they were just on his site. I am going to talk to him and see if he took them off or what.

February 20th, 2014, 01:42 PM	#24
ChrisJuliano ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Pittsburgh PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 96	Hes adding it tonight for you guys. What height would you guys want this to be raised. I can make him make one with multiple holes maybe, one for 1"-1.5"?

February 20th, 2014, 01:43 PM	#25
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Use a 07, 08 or 09 they all are the same length (315mm). __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School
	1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.

February 20th, 2014, 02:16 PM	#27
ChrisJuliano ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Pittsburgh PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 96	Not sure, when mine come I can find out though when I install them. I got 1.25" raise I think.

February 20th, 2014, 03:31 PM	#28
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Multiple holes would be awesome(heh), I'm like 190 with gear on so I'd try 1-1.25

February 20th, 2014, 03:40 PM	#29
ChrisJuliano ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Pittsburgh PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 96	Ill talk to him maybe he can make something up.

February 20th, 2014, 04:07 PM	#31
ChrisJuliano ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Pittsburgh PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 96	Cssmith for me since I am light I had to get rid of all the preload the gsxr shock allows, which made it very low to get my sag right around 1 1/2 to 1 3/4. So my rear end was so low that I wanted it to be about a quarter of a inch higher than stock so figured 1.25" was just about right. Hence why I choose to raise my bike 1.25" with the dogbones. Then I will ahve a great ride height since I want it to have a little bit of rake so it turns in quick.

February 20th, 2014, 04:33 PM	#32
old3 ninjette.org sage Name: Jim Location: NJ Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300, KTM EXC610SMR Posts: 913	Anyone know the ratio of dogbone change to actual bike ride height? What distance between dog bone lengths equals 1" of ride height lift? This could be as simple as drilling new holes in stock arms, no?

February 20th, 2014, 05:28 PM	#34
old3 ninjette.org sage Name: Jim Location: NJ Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 300, KTM EXC610SMR Posts: 913	Great place to start, thanks!

February 20th, 2014, 05:45 PM	#36
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	That's cool, normally riders buy springs based on weight and then adjust ride height other many other factors. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School Last futzed with by csmith12; February 20th, 2014 at 08:11 PM. Reason: spelling

February 20th, 2014, 06:21 PM	#37
ChrisJuliano ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Pittsburgh PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 96	I am going to keep the stock spring and see how it is, I may just have to replace the spring.

February 20th, 2014, 06:27 PM	#39
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Same. I'm gonna get the front put together and the gsxr and see how it does from there. If I need a new spring I can adjust after. I'm gonna be changing so much at once and I'm really not a bike suspension guru(more of a car guy) so I'm gonna have to start here and try and dial in what I can.

February 21st, 2014, 12:03 PM	#40
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	anyone know how much lower the bike is with the gsxr shock and stock dog bones? __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

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