Poor Ninja...

dubojr1 · August 19th, 2011, 10:13 AM

You'll never guess how this ends.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81768713/

Alex: Embed if possible...

SpeedDemon · August 19th, 2011, 10:15 AM

Holy s**t i did not see that one coming at all

Alex · August 19th, 2011, 10:33 AM

Pretty amazing, it doesn't appear real to me, but at that resolution it's hard to tell. Cars don't explode like that without alot of help.

Can't embed it easily without setting up additional code for ebaum; but let me know when it shows up one youtube (if it hasn't already), and it will be very easy to link at that point...

Racer x · August 19th, 2011, 11:27 AM

I just cant see how you could fake that.
But I have never seen a car explode like that. I have seen plenty of cars burn. The tires go bang ,The glass pops . But the gas tank will sorta erupt is a big fire ball. That looked like an explosive to me.Or maybe he had gas cans inside the car for a lawnmower or something.He was FLYING down the street that is for sure. I also did not see anyone get out of the car, I cant tell who was at fault though. I would guess the big divided street was the main street . And the car crossing did not stop. So to me it was the other drivers fault. Sad but I think driver died in that one.

cerberusrex25 · August 19th, 2011, 12:10 PM

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE, nice use of after effects and low quality video though. How to know is fake? Aside form the awkward movement of the models, if that was my bike that got hit I would be flipping out like nobody's business.

alex.s · August 19th, 2011, 03:18 PM

fake. look at the reaction of the environment the trees shifting looks pretty fake. and especially the movement of the bike. things don't just go from moving 60 mph after getting hit by a car to sitting still on it's side not moving. the bike is what gives it away. also the bike would be toast... that bike looks like its fine just sitting on its side

Honko · August 19th, 2011, 03:26 PM

Being fake aside, it was pretty well done. Even with the bad reaction of the bike to the accident (not just how it lays flat afterwards, but it would have been completely obliterated, not in the pretty fantastic shape it was in) it was still pretty believable.....but then the flames poured out and the car exploded. Like Alex already mentioned, it takes a lot of help chemically or environmentally for a car to explode like that.

Incredibly well done either way.

MotoED · August 20th, 2011, 12:36 AM

Fake! But have to agree that it was really well made. Bike would of been obliterated if struck like that from a car coming that fast. Trippy video tho.

nickadolph · August 20th, 2011, 02:40 AM

The smartest thing they did with the video was to make it really low res. Then you really have to second guess if it's really a fake. If this was shot in hd I don't think would get a second look.

Racer x · August 20th, 2011, 02:59 AM

I guess they fool me.I can't figure out how to toss a car down the street. The brick work was not smashed . The bike is in one piece so I guess it is fake.I just can't figure out how they did it.

Kevin2109 · August 20th, 2011, 01:22 PM

Yeah its fake, but holly ****!!

Bushmaster11B · August 20th, 2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Pretty amazing, it doesn't appear real to me, but at that resolution it's hard to tell. Cars don't explode like that without alot of help.

Can't embed it easily without setting up additional code for ebaum; but let me know when it shows up one youtube (if it hasn't already), and it will be very easy to link at that point...

maybe he was delivering propane tanks... they can cause an explosion like that easiely... never know, could have been a damn insurgent taking out ninjas LMAo

Cuongism · August 20th, 2011, 07:52 PM

Mythbusters did some myths about cars exploding. They've tried shooting gas tanks, driving cars off cliffs, etc to make them explode, but they never did. Just mostly burn...

Mocha Man · August 20th, 2011, 08:09 PM

Cool, but fake. I hate to sound like a troll but for someone who is into video editing it's fairly clear this isn't real.

TheMojoRider · August 20th, 2011, 09:00 PM

That bike needs a fender eliminator.

Skippii · August 20th, 2011, 10:09 PM

I have seen a vehicle on fire containing two full 20-lb propane tanks. They can and do explode.

ninja_sleeper · August 22nd, 2011, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMojoRider

That bike needs a fender eliminator.

LOL

Agreed.

bdavison · August 22nd, 2011, 12:55 PM

Ive pulled people out of burning cars....I call fake too.

For one, had that car actually hit the ninja at that speed...the ninja would have pretty much been turned back into a parts bin tossed down the sidewalk. And two....cars will not explode like that. They just burn. An explosion like that is either aftereffects post processing, or about 20 gallons of gas with some detcord.

Racer x · August 22nd, 2011, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippii

I have seen a vehicle on fire containing two full 20-lb propane tanks. They can and do explode.

I bet you got in trouble for that. Was the dog OK?

ninja250 · August 22nd, 2011, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMojoRider

That bike needs a fender eliminator.

Lol don't worry the fender was eliminated.

Nemesis · August 25th, 2011, 10:31 PM

I luv me some fakes!

Skippii · August 25th, 2011, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

I bet you got in trouble for that. Was the dog OK?

Lol! That was actually at Woostock '99, right after Megadeth's set, so I was pretty deaf, but damn was that a loud blast. It was one of the food vending vehicles, hence the tanks.
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akima · August 29th, 2011, 04:41 AM

For a moment I thought it might have been real, but maybe they just sped up the footage during the crash... but then the car exploded... FAKEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Quite fun though!

Ktaylor07 · September 6th, 2011, 07:43 PM

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...VUOCaL6vHw5Kkr

If this is fake, the creator did a really good visual effects job. Just thought I'd post cuz I randomy ran across it and it features a 250!!

Alex · September 6th, 2011, 07:44 PM

/merged with other thread

Ktaylor07 · September 6th, 2011, 07:48 PM

I didn't even see that it was already posted...my bad haha

Alex · September 6th, 2011, 08:37 PM

No worries.

Heed · September 6th, 2011, 11:41 PM

Looks super fake but yeah, I'd be furious.

Gurk · September 7th, 2011, 12:42 AM

Fake but cool

Here's someone i really respect for digital FX.

Link to original page on YouTube.

CZroe · September 7th, 2011, 03:47 AM

All the other reasons aside, the fact that they anticipated something that doesn't happen and then it happened makes it obviously fake. That's the way my brother put it when he first came across it weeks ago and told me about it.

Michaeldphotography · September 7th, 2011, 03:41 PM

lol i was gonna post too then I saw it was posted. Ok so im wondering what part of this do yall think is fake? The accident def looked real, 2 cars got smashed up at high speed. the bike getting tossed did look about right it only got hit on the back tire got flipped over and fell on its side. the car def exploded. So if it was fake they spent alot of money on a public street cause that was a really expensive stunt or are you guys saying that its video effects? Even if video effects that took heck of alot of time and resources. Im thinking may be real. That dude just barely got out of the way it looked like. If it was real i would not have been looking at the bike i would have been freaking out that someone just died.

Alex · September 7th, 2011, 03:44 PM

There are a pile of reasons it is fake, but we can start with these:

- bike would be demolished, not just lying on its side
- explosion isn't anything like what happens in "non-movie" car explosions
- them filming in the first place, with the expectation that something was just about to happen, and the timing being just right to capture the crash, the explosion, and the goofy responses by the guy in frame

CZroe · September 7th, 2011, 06:11 PM

Their responses were pretty formulaic/scripted sounding as well.

Gurk · September 8th, 2011, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michaeldphotography

lol i was gonna post too then I saw it was posted. Ok so im wondering what part of this do yall think is fake? The accident def looked real, 2 cars got smashed up at high speed. the bike getting tossed did look about right it only got hit on the back tire got flipped over and fell on its side. the car def exploded. So if it was fake they spent alot of money on a public street cause that was a really expensive stunt or are you guys saying that its video effects? Even if video effects that took heck of alot of time and resources. Im thinking may be real. That dude just barely got out of the way it looked like. If it was real i would not have been looking at the bike i would have been freaking out that someone just died.

Have you watched Transformers? Those robots look pretty damn real. It's just visual effects. Click my siggy and watch MTV ident. It's super newbie VFX thingy I did when I first started getting into it. Its very obviously fake but you get the idea. imagine what a person with 5 years in it can do. You can model and light an exact replica of those vehicles pretty easily (in a day or 2) if you know what you're doing. And this video is low quality and fast (motion blur) so you can hide things fairly easily.

Anyway... When you have a trained eye and know what computers and people are capable of, you can easily tell this is fake.

ahenthus · September 22nd, 2011, 08:22 AM

I've never seen this before and could not figure out how to link it here. It is a short video of a blue new gen being crashed (nobody aboard) by an SUV in a foreign country. I will forward the email to someone if they'll post it. PM me and I'll get it to you pronto. Forgive me if this has been shown before, but a quick search did not reveal any previous posts.

Lurkable · September 22nd, 2011, 08:54 AM

I believe you're referring to this ACIDENTE - FOI FECHADO NO CRUZAMENTO

It's fake though. No way a car travelling at that speed would just bounce off a post like that. Also the bike flies about 10 feet in the air and then stops dead, pretty unrealistic.

sombo · September 22nd, 2011, 09:12 AM

I remember that one. I think it has been posted on here, just not sure what it was titled as though. Yah, you can see it's fake and where they did the digital effects. Not badly done for amateurs though.

massacremasses · September 22nd, 2011, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurkable

I believe you're referring to this ACIDENTE - FOI FECHADO NO CRUZAMENTO

It's fake though. No way a car travelling at that speed would just bounce off a post like that. Also the bike flies about 10 feet in the air and then stops dead, pretty unrealistic.

I lol'd so hard. That does not look real in the least...

ahenthus · September 22nd, 2011, 09:19 AM

Thanks, my bad.

Kurgan · September 22nd, 2011, 09:55 AM

There's no damage at all to the bike on the ground, and the explosion that only goes UP and not out is clearly fake.

August 19th, 2011, 10:13 AM	#1
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Poor Ninja... You'll never guess how this ends. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81768713/ Alex: Embed if possible... __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 19th, 2011, 10:15 AM	#2
SpeedDemon ninjette.org member Name: Jon Location: Brampton Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 Posts: 190	Holy s**t i did not see that one coming at all __________________________________________________ Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly

August 19th, 2011, 10:33 AM	#3
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Pretty amazing, it doesn't appear real to me, but at that resolution it's hard to tell. Cars don't explode like that without alot of help. Can't embed it easily without setting up additional code for ebaum; but let me know when it shows up one youtube (if it hasn't already), and it will be very easy to link at that point... __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

August 19th, 2011, 03:18 PM	#6
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	fake. look at the reaction of the environment the trees shifting looks pretty fake. and especially the movement of the bike. things don't just go from moving 60 mph after getting hit by a car to sitting still on it's side not moving. the bike is what gives it away. also the bike would be toast... that bike looks like its fine just sitting on its side __________________________________________________

August 20th, 2011, 01:22 PM	#11
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	Yeah its fake, but holly ****!! __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

August 19th, 2011, 11:27 AM	#4
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	I just cant see how you could fake that. But I have never seen a car explode like that. I have seen plenty of cars burn. The tires go bang ,The glass pops . But the gas tank will sorta erupt is a big fire ball. That looked like an explosive to me.Or maybe he had gas cans inside the car for a lawnmower or something.He was FLYING down the street that is for sure. I also did not see anyone get out of the car, I cant tell who was at fault though. I would guess the big divided street was the main street . And the car crossing did not stop. So to me it was the other drivers fault. Sad but I think driver died in that one.

August 19th, 2011, 12:10 PM	#5
cerberusrex25 Accesories Guru Name: Dave Location: Centreville, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): '99 EX250(Cafe/fighter project) Posts: 537	FAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE, nice use of after effects and low quality video though. How to know is fake? Aside form the awkward movement of the models, if that was my bike that got hit I would be flipping out like nobody's business.

August 19th, 2011, 03:26 PM	#7
Honko ninjette.org sage Name: Hyon Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Green SE Posts: 574	Being fake aside, it was pretty well done. Even with the bad reaction of the bike to the accident (not just how it lays flat afterwards, but it would have been completely obliterated, not in the pretty fantastic shape it was in) it was still pretty believable.....but then the flames poured out and the car exploded. Like Alex already mentioned, it takes a lot of help chemically or environmentally for a car to explode like that. Incredibly well done either way.

August 20th, 2011, 12:36 AM	#8
MotoED ninjette.org guru Name: Edd Location: Los Angeles-CALI Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 SE Pearl/Ebony Ninja 250R Posts: 376	Fake! But have to agree that it was really well made. Bike would of been obliterated if struck like that from a car coming that fast. Trippy video tho.

August 20th, 2011, 02:40 AM	#9
nickadolph ninjette.org member Name: nick Location: Twin Cities, MN Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 168	The smartest thing they did with the video was to make it really low res. Then you really have to second guess if it's really a fake. If this was shot in hd I don't think would get a second look.

August 20th, 2011, 02:59 AM	#10
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	I guess they fool me.I can't figure out how to toss a car down the street. The brick work was not smashed . The bike is in one piece so I guess it is fake.I just can't figure out how they did it.

August 20th, 2011, 07:52 PM	#13
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Mythbusters did some myths about cars exploding. They've tried shooting gas tanks, driving cars off cliffs, etc to make them explode, but they never did. Just mostly burn...

August 20th, 2011, 08:09 PM	#14
Mocha Man Blue Shell magnet Name: Nolan Location: Northwest Washington Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1997 Ninja 250 Posts: 816	Cool, but fake. I hate to sound like a troll but for someone who is into video editing it's fairly clear this isn't real.

August 20th, 2011, 09:00 PM	#15
TheMojoRider ninjette.org member Name: Ninja Location: CA Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja! Posts: 77	That bike needs a fender eliminator.

August 20th, 2011, 10:09 PM	#16
Skippii Milkshake Drinker Name: Skippii Location: Richmond, Va Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Orange DRZ400-S, 2005 Ninja 250 & Custom Thundercunt Dirt Chopper Posts: A lot.	I have seen a vehicle on fire containing two full 20-lb propane tanks. They can and do explode. __________________________________________________ "What a sweetheart."- ninja_sleeper to me

August 22nd, 2011, 12:55 PM	#18
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	Ive pulled people out of burning cars....I call fake too. For one, had that car actually hit the ninja at that speed...the ninja would have pretty much been turned back into a parts bin tossed down the sidewalk. And two....cars will not explode like that. They just burn. An explosion like that is either aftereffects post processing, or about 20 gallons of gas with some detcord.

August 25th, 2011, 10:31 PM	#21
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	I luv me some fakes!

August 29th, 2011, 04:41 AM	#23
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	For a moment I thought it might have been real, but maybe they just sped up the footage during the crash... but then the car exploded... FAKEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Quite fun though!

September 6th, 2011, 07:43 PM	#24
Ktaylor07 ninjette.org member Name: Kevin Location: Augusta, GA Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 66	Used Bike Sale Gone Wrong!! http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...VUOCaL6vHw5Kkr If this is fake, the creator did a really good visual effects job. Just thought I'd post cuz I randomy ran across it and it features a 250!!

September 6th, 2011, 07:44 PM	#25
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	/merged with other thread __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 6th, 2011, 07:48 PM	#26
Ktaylor07 ninjette.org member Name: Kevin Location: Augusta, GA Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 66	I didn't even see that it was already posted...my bad haha

September 6th, 2011, 08:37 PM	#27
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	No worries. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 6th, 2011, 11:41 PM	#28
Heed ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: John Location: Illinois Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): None yet, yet. Posts: A lot.	Looks super fake but yeah, I'd be furious.

September 7th, 2011, 12:42 AM	#29
Gurk Done here. Name: - Location: Track Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	Fake but cool Here's someone i really respect for digital FX. Link to original page on YouTube.

September 7th, 2011, 03:47 AM	#30
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	All the other reasons aside, the fact that they anticipated something that doesn't happen and then it happened makes it obviously fake. That's the way my brother put it when he first came across it weeks ago and told me about it.

September 7th, 2011, 03:41 PM	#31
Michaeldphotography ninjette.org member Name: Mook Location: Atlanta Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): SUZUKI GS500 Posts: 62	lol i was gonna post too then I saw it was posted. Ok so im wondering what part of this do yall think is fake? The accident def looked real, 2 cars got smashed up at high speed. the bike getting tossed did look about right it only got hit on the back tire got flipped over and fell on its side. the car def exploded. So if it was fake they spent alot of money on a public street cause that was a really expensive stunt or are you guys saying that its video effects? Even if video effects that took heck of alot of time and resources. Im thinking may be real. That dude just barely got out of the way it looked like. If it was real i would not have been looking at the bike i would have been freaking out that someone just died. __________________________________________________ Just happy to ride!!!!

September 7th, 2011, 03:44 PM	#32
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	There are a pile of reasons it is fake, but we can start with these: - bike would be demolished, not just lying on its side - explosion isn't anything like what happens in "non-movie" car explosions - them filming in the first place, with the expectation that something was just about to happen, and the timing being just right to capture the crash, the explosion, and the goofy responses by the guy in frame __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 7th, 2011, 06:11 PM	#33
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Their responses were pretty formulaic/scripted sounding as well.

September 22nd, 2011, 08:22 AM	#35
ahenthus ninjette.org member Name: Claude Location: SC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, 1994 HD Sportster, 1975 Yamaha XS650B and many works in progress. Posts: 60	Ninja Crash in Email I've never seen this before and could not figure out how to link it here. It is a short video of a blue new gen being crashed (nobody aboard) by an SUV in a foreign country. I will forward the email to someone if they'll post it. PM me and I'll get it to you pronto. Forgive me if this has been shown before, but a quick search did not reveal any previous posts.

September 22nd, 2011, 08:54 AM	#36
Lurkable 250Arrrgh! Name: Andrew Location: San Francisco Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250R, 2001 996 Posts: 143	I believe you're referring to this ACIDENTE - FOI FECHADO NO CRUZAMENTO It's fake though. No way a car travelling at that speed would just bounce off a post like that. Also the bike flies about 10 feet in the air and then stops dead, pretty unrealistic.

September 22nd, 2011, 09:12 AM	#37
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	I remember that one. I think it has been posted on here, just not sure what it was titled as though. Yah, you can see it's fake and where they did the digital effects. Not badly done for amateurs though.

September 22nd, 2011, 09:19 AM	#39
ahenthus ninjette.org member Name: Claude Location: SC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, 1994 HD Sportster, 1975 Yamaha XS650B and many works in progress. Posts: 60	Thanks, my bad.

September 22nd, 2011, 09:55 AM	#40
Kurgan ninjette.org guru Name: Kurgan Location: Texas Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R Posts: 260	There's no damage at all to the bike on the ground, and the explosion that only goes UP and not out is clearly fake.

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