How much gas?

Socal5646 · September 22nd, 2011, 09:20 PM

Ok so this may sound like a dumb question...but where do you fill the tank to? If you stick the nozzle all the way in, the auto shut off will stop it just after the center divider. That lasts about 100 miles....at least the last tank did. Obviously it can be filled more....bu how much more? I didn't get a manual with the bike and the tank had a sticker about over-filling...so I just stayed on the cautious side....

Alex · September 22nd, 2011, 09:23 PM

You can't rely on the auto-shutoff like you can with cars. It shuts off way too early in a bike tank. You need to hold it down manually until the gas comes up to the top of the tank . I stop right when it hits that lowest metal ring. You shouldn't overfill it much past that, or it will come out the overflow and can soak the charcoal filter (for california bikes).

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67188

Socal5646 · September 22nd, 2011, 09:31 PM

Thanks! Yeah....guess I've been WAY under-filling!

Alex · September 22nd, 2011, 09:34 PM

Also, there is a sticky thread at the top of the pre-gen tech section about where to download a free owners manual right from Kawi.

ungluck · September 23rd, 2011, 12:09 AM

topping off any vehicle made since 93 is a good way to waste money and spend a bunch extra.

stopping at the lower metal ring as stated is perfect....

tanman2003 · September 23rd, 2011, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ungluck

topping off any vehicle made since 93 is a good way to waste money and spend a bunch extra.

explain???

FrugalNinja250 · September 23rd, 2011, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanman2003

explain???

Not just cars made since the early 90's, any car with a vapor recovery system. These systems are designed to work with fuel vapors, not liquid fuel. Over filling can cause liquid fuel to get into the charcoal cannister, thereby ruining it.

n4mwd · September 23rd, 2011, 05:57 AM

Its also a good idea to avoid letting the nozzle go into the liquid fuel in the tank. The way the auto shutoff mechanism works is that there are vacuum holes hidden in the nozzle. This is a small internal tube visible at the end. If this gets into the liquid, it will suck some of it out.

On the side of the nozzle are emission vacuum holes. I think these are for sucking fumes out of a tank to prevent them from getting into the air. They too can suck liquid fuel if it gets to them.

I'm not sure just exactly how much gets sucked back into the pump, but there is no sense in paying for it and giving it right back to them.

September 22nd, 2011, 09:20 PM	#1
Socal5646 ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 150cc chinaman scooter Posts: 226	How much gas? Ok so this may sound like a dumb question...but where do you fill the tank to? If you stick the nozzle all the way in, the auto shut off will stop it just after the center divider. That lasts about 100 miles....at least the last tank did. Obviously it can be filled more....bu how much more? I didn't get a manual with the bike and the tank had a sticker about over-filling...so I just stayed on the cautious side....

September 22nd, 2011, 09:23 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	You can't rely on the auto-shutoff like you can with cars. It shuts off way too early in a bike tank. You need to hold it down manually until the gas comes up to the top of the tank . I stop right when it hits that lowest metal ring. You shouldn't overfill it much past that, or it will come out the overflow and can soak the charcoal filter (for california bikes). http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67188 __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 22nd, 2011, 09:34 PM	#4
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Also, there is a sticky thread at the top of the pre-gen tech section about where to download a free owners manual right from Kawi. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 23rd, 2011, 12:09 AM	#5
ungluck sleeper Name: chris Location: Hawaii Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '10 690 duke Posts: 558	topping off any vehicle made since 93 is a good way to waste money and spend a bunch extra. stopping at the lower metal ring as stated is perfect.... __________________________________________________ SauSponte

September 23rd, 2011, 05:57 AM	#8
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Its also a good idea to avoid letting the nozzle go into the liquid fuel in the tank. The way the auto shutoff mechanism works is that there are vacuum holes hidden in the nozzle. This is a small internal tube visible at the end. If this gets into the liquid, it will suck some of it out. On the side of the nozzle are emission vacuum holes. I think these are for sucking fumes out of a tank to prevent them from getting into the air. They too can suck liquid fuel if it gets to them. I'm not sure just exactly how much gets sucked back into the pump, but there is no sense in paying for it and giving it right back to them. __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

September 22nd, 2011, 09:31 PM	#3
Socal5646 ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 150cc chinaman scooter Posts: 226	Thanks! Yeah....guess I've been WAY under-filling!

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