January 5th, 2009, 07:39 AM | #1 |
Online Service Manuals
Name: Len
Location: North Carolina
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Online Ninja 250 Manual
Subscription for an online manual for the Ninja EX250 (Pre 2008). This Kawasaki Ninja 250 manual that is not an illegal, pirated copy - more info at http://www.cyclepedia.com/kawasaki-e...service-guide/
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January 5th, 2009, 07:41 AM | #2 |
ninjette.org dude
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Interesting, thanks!
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February 23rd, 2009, 08:12 AM | #3 |
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Name: Frank
Location: Long Beach, NY
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Anyone have any reviews on this?
I was thinking of paying for this, but I am not sure how much better it is than my service manual. |
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March 4th, 2009, 09:51 AM | #4 |
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Name: Kichu
Location: New Jersey
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue Ninja 250R (the fastest color) Posts: 90
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hey guys i just got a Service manual from this guy here in NY.... he's selling the manual shipped for like 30 or 36 bucks... wanted me to let you guys know.... please email him if you need it for the 250 or any other bike....
eggmac217@yahoo.com |
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March 4th, 2009, 11:34 AM | #5 |
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If anyone is interested in a pre 08 service manual, PM me. I have a few left.
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March 4th, 2009, 08:59 PM | #6 |
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Name: Jhaqui
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Is the 08 and 09 manual different from each other?
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March 4th, 2009, 09:35 PM | #7 |
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Name: Don
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Doubt if much changed but it would be documented in a supplement.
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March 4th, 2009, 09:49 PM | #8 |
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March 5th, 2009, 07:33 AM | #9 |
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Name: Kichu
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i dont think the 08 and 09 manuals are different...
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March 5th, 2009, 09:51 AM | #10 |
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December 10th, 2009, 06:50 PM | #11 |
Online Service Manuals
Name: Len
Location: North Carolina
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Cyclepedia.com has just introduced an Online Ninja 500 manual. You can find more information about it at http://www.cyclepedia.com/kawasaki-e...ervice-manual/
The manual features really easy to follow instructions and photos. Almost anyone can use this manual and save money on their own repairs. Free tech support for subscribers too! |
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March 14th, 2010, 10:10 AM | #12 |
Online Service Manuals
Name: Len
Location: North Carolina
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2008-2010 Ninja 250 Manual Online
I wanted to let you guys know that by popular request we have started work on a 2008-2010 Ninja 250 manual. Thanks for all the emails requesting this newer manual. You can sign up for a notification / read more about it on the Cyclepedia website at:
http://www.cyclepedia.com/2008-2010-...ervice-manual/ Ride safe. |
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August 5th, 2010, 06:41 AM | #13 | |
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And most assuredly, owning a document in one format does not give any rights of ownership in other formats. For instance, say you own a physical book, then download an E-book version from someone other than the authorized publisher or distributor. That's a violation of copyright and the copy you have is pirated, even if it was a copy of the original legitimate E-book version and even though you own a version of the book already. I hang with several authors and these kinds of discussions come up quite frequently. |
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August 5th, 2010, 08:34 AM | #14 | |
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August 5th, 2010, 12:00 PM | #15 |
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Mike -
I'm not sure that you're reading this situation correctly. The OP has a company that produces service manuals. They are not from Kawasaki. Just like Haynes, Chilton, or any other separate company. To my knowledge, none of those folks are required to pay royalties to anyone for publishing books on a topic, but they likely do have to get permission from Kawasaki at some point to use their name and trademarks in print. I have no reason to believe that this online company does or does not get the same assurances from Kawasaki that the other manual creators do, I just don't know and neither does anyone else. What we can be sure of is that their opinion is correct, that freely copied copyrighted service manuals, produced by Kawasaki, are by the letter and spirit of the law, illegal. There have been any number of questions about this on online forums and even enthusiast magazines for years. What it comes down to is it's highly unlikely any manufacturer would make a stink about some sharing of those manuals from time to time, as the profit center is the bike, and not trying to make huge margins on manuals afterwards. And more manuals mean more people working on their bikes anyway. But it's still not a great idea for us to rub Kawi's or any other manufacturer's noses in it, because if push came to shove they would have a right to enforce copyright as they see fit. That's the reason that these electronic manuals aren't traded openly on sites like this.
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August 5th, 2010, 12:04 PM | #16 | |
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Sounds like you need to pursue a test case. Turn yourself in for bootlegging written works and then you'll have standing to pursue the case all the way up to the Supreme Court. Personally, I'd like to see some stuffing knocked out of the copyright laws, especially the extended time of protection. But until then, downloading or distributing unauthorized copies in any format of written works is still considered illegal. |
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August 5th, 2010, 12:40 PM | #17 | ||
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As for copyright extentions... the government forgot that the laws, including the original limits, were also supposed to spur innovation for the consumer's sake as well. The ACTA treaty proves that they still haven't realized that, as it is done without the people's knowledge or consent for the pure benefit of the copyright holders. How is that of, by or for the people?! Our rights don't matter when they are the only ones getting any representation. It's why our right to a backup of software can be summarily tossed by Clinton's DMCA. |
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August 5th, 2010, 01:37 PM | #18 |
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A point of clarification: The bill was introduced in the House of Representatives as H.R. 2281 by Republican North Carolina Representative Howard Coble on July 29, 1997, run through the Republican-dominated House Judiciary Committee chaired by Republican Henry J. Hyde and the Republican-dominated House Commerce Committee chaired by Republican Thomas J. Bliley, Jr., then passed by voice vote in the Republican-dominated House on August 4, 1998. It then went to the Republican-dominated Senate where it was passed just weeks later on September 17, 1998. All Clinton did was sign it, he had nothing to do with it's form or structure. This was most emphatically not "Clinton's DMCA."
There have been some attempts to roll back portions of the DMCA such as H. R. 107 (D) and H. R. 1201 (R) but to date the media industry has been successful at buying, err..., influencing the House and Senate enough to block such attempts. But lets not let this get political as, based on my observation, political threads rapidly deteriorate into unsocial behavior and name calling, resulting in a sore loss of comity. I think we can mostly all agree that the DMCA was, and still is, a real piece of junk legislation designed mainly to benefit a commercial industry at the expense of citizens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital...%27_Rights_Act http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comity |
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August 5th, 2010, 01:44 PM | #19 |
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Back to the topic. If you have a copy of the owner's manual, all well and good. But I'm pretty sure you did not buy a service manual with the bike and it was not included in the price. you can order these separately from KAwi or other vendors or order an after-market service and repair manual from suppliers like Haynes, Childers, etc.
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August 6th, 2010, 07:39 AM | #20 | |
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August 6th, 2010, 08:03 AM | #21 |
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No kidding. I wonder what judges think as they convict people that tried using this excuse. You know what they say about bliss...
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August 6th, 2010, 08:40 AM | #22 | |
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