Area P - GB (for the new-gen 250!) Runs through February 28. - Page 2

lgk · February 13th, 2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by joshuatrueanderson

i wanted short cuz i wanted the mgp growler.SOUND SO SICK.... no im kidding... the 18 is the way to go. Just looked a little too stock for my liking, but on this little 250, ill sip out any hp's i can get. Area p is the ****!

i got the 18 and like it a lot.
the higher mount makes it look much better than stock.

joshuatrueanderson · February 13th, 2013, 04:34 PM

damn that doesnt look stockish at all... sexy.. thanks jiggles. gonna go with the 18 now. Performance trumps looks.

Jiggles · February 13th, 2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joshuatrueanderson

damn that doesnt look stockish at all... sexy.. thanks jiggles. gonna go with the 18 now. Performance trumps looks.

That is the race system too which pumps out a bit more than the street system. It removes one of the passenger pegs so if you don't plan on riding 2up get the race system

mikecronis · February 13th, 2013, 10:21 PM

Doing research on their website, the 18" is the better buy for the standard Area-P or the Race version.

On the standard Area-P, there's no difference between the 12" and 18".

On the race version Area-P, the 18" has better performance by about 1.5Hp.

YORCHI · February 14th, 2013, 08:22 AM

I'm here for the GB!

psych0hans · February 14th, 2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by diwhiteii

Hello Hans,

Area P ships worldwide and shipping to India would be about $110. Area P does have a few maps for the PCV that they developed for a customer years ago with a 250 FI model. This thread is used for professional logging of peoples request so please leave out the favours. I thank you and hope we can get the exhaust you need. Do you want me to add you to the list?

Hi David,

Please sign me up for a race system with the 18" carbon can, but please try arranging for cheaper shipping, as 110$ is very steep. I've seen full systems ship for as low as 45$. Please look into it. So my order will be conditional based on two factors :-

1) cheaper shipping
2) availability of a map for the same, without air box.

Regards.
Hans.

P.s. I was just adding some light banter to the thread, while also being genuinely interested, stop being so uptight m8

broilmebk · February 14th, 2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by YORCHI

I'm here for the GB!

wait...what are we talking about?

mariorivera830 · February 15th, 2013, 02:05 AM

I'd like to get in on this as well, but I am not sure when we are getting our tax money. This is my tax-mas present from myself but I was part of the group that couldnt submit my taxes until yesterday because I claimed some of the education credits. That put my tax-mas back at least a few weeks.

My question is this: when is the absolute last minute that I can submit my payment to get in on this group buy?

Thanks in advance

kbryant · February 15th, 2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by psych0hans

Hi David,

Please sign me up for a race system with the 18" carbon can, but please try arranging for cheaper shipping, as 110$ is very steep. I've seen full systems ship for as low as 45$. Please look into it. So my order will be conditional based on two factors :-

1) cheaper shipping
2) availability of a map for the same, without air box.

Shipping cost is as indicated - approximately $110.
We do not have maps available for the 250FI model without the airbox.

kbryant · February 15th, 2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mariorivera830

My question is this: when is the absolute last minute that I can submit my payment to get in on this group buy?

Thanks in advance

As indicated on the intro page - "The 250 GB will run until the end of February (28th) 2013. At the conclusion, order processing will commence."

mariorivera830 · February 15th, 2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kbryant

As indicated on the intro page - "The 250 GB will run until the end of February (28th) 2013. At the conclusion, order processing will commence."

Okie dokie then. C'mon uncle Sam! Daddy needs that new exhaust. Thanks

psych0hans · February 15th, 2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kbryant

Shipping cost is as indicated - approximately $110.
We do not have maps available for the 250FI model without the airbox.

Thanks for your reply, but it doesn't make sense for me then... Good luck!

TheDementedDrummer · February 15th, 2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by psych0hans

Thanks for your reply, but it doesn't make sense for me then... Good luck!

Buy a Totsubo

choneofakind · February 15th, 2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by psych0hans

Thanks for your reply, but it doesn't make sense for me then... Good luck!

There are a couple maps made by Yoshi for their exhaust system. One is for the snorkel, one is for without. That would be a great starting point.

Also, you can get a lot of power out of the stock airbox. Those guys who race CVMA all have their airboxes (and snorkels) to comply with the racing rules. I've seen some of their dyno charts. They're quite impressive.

The other option: LeoVince suggests drilling a pair of 2" diameter holes in the back of the airbox. You could use their LeoVince Fast Fuel ecu and air box mods with an Area P system. That would also be a great starting point.

The yoshi map w/PC or the Leo Vince mods with their ecu might also be spot on. You never know until you try.

psych0hans · February 15th, 2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

There are a couple maps made by Yoshi for their exhaust system. One is for the snorkel, one is for without. That would be a great starting point.

Also, you can get a lot of power out of the stock airbox. Those guys who race CVMA all have their airboxes (and snorkels) to comply with the racing rules. I've seen some of their dyno charts. They're quite impressive.

The other option: LeoVince suggests drilling a pair of 2" diameter holes in the back of the airbox. You could use their LeoVince Fast Fuel ecu and air box mods with an Area P system. That would also be a great starting point.

The yoshi map w/PC or the Leo Vince mods with their ecu might also be spot on. You never know until you try.

Honestly, I'm running a full exhaust without airox and with PCV + autotune. I'm using the same yoshi map as you suggested. I was only interested in y his because the areap race system is specifically designed to run without the airbox. But once again, without a proper map, that's a 600$ chance I don't wanna take...

choneofakind · February 15th, 2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by psych0hans

I was only interested in y his because the areap race system is specifically designed to run without the airbox.

Understood. I didn't realize that.

kbryant · February 15th, 2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by psych0hans

Honestly, I'm running a full exhaust without airox and with PCV + autotune. I'm using the same yoshi map as you suggested. I was only interested in y his because the areap race system is specifically designed to run without the airbox. But once again, without a proper map, that's a 600$ chance I don't wanna take...

If you are currently utilzing a PCV & Autotune, then you already have target values in each cell that your Autotune hunts for and has "learned". In simple terms; changing to the Area P Exhaust simply means that it will "learn" the new values essentially within the amount of time it takes you to go through the various throttle positions and rpm ranges. This is the beauty of wideband autotune modules.

diwhiteii · February 16th, 2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by akima

I will be installing this on a British ninja 250R, so besides its funny accent it also has fuel injection. Do you guys have the maps I need to install in a power commander?

Read Post #23

diwhiteii · February 16th, 2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mariorivera830

Okie dokie then. C'mon uncle Sam! Daddy needs that new exhaust. Thanks

Do you want me to add you to the lists?

diwhiteii · February 16th, 2013, 11:09 AM

1.Joshuatrueanderson - 18" race system carbon fiber muffler with Flat Conical Billet End Cap + custom Area p jet kit + exhaust hanger bracket (black)
2.csmith12
3.mikecronis
4.akima - full stainless steel mid-high mount race system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler
5. ?

Stinub91 · February 16th, 2013, 02:47 PM

Sign me up for the GB!

Would you recommend the standard carbon fiber full exhaust over the stainless steel version or do they just look differently? and my bike is completely stock but want to put on this full exhaust and put in a k&n air filter in the stock airbox. So would that mean i need their dynojet stage 2 kit as well? if so sign me up for that too! lol

p.s.
this is my first time participating in a GB. So my question is how and when do i actually pay for this?

mariorivera830 · February 16th, 2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by diwhiteii

Do you want me to add you to the lists?

Conditionally, yes. As a as i don't cause any trouble if my tax money doesn't come in time and I have to drop out.
I'll take a 12" carbon fiber can, conical end cap (as dark as it comes; black or carbon fiber if possible) area p custom jet kit. And as much of the system (obviously not the pipes) in black or carbon as possible. Trying to go completely black on the bike. Thanks!

thumper64 · February 16th, 2013, 10:33 PM

Any chance of a run of pre gen systems?

diwhiteii · February 17th, 2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinub91

Sign me up for the GB!

Would you recommend the standard carbon fiber full exhaust over the stainless steel version or do they just look differently? and my bike is completely stock but want to put on this full exhaust and put in a k&n air filter in the stock airbox. So would that mean i need their dynojet stage 2 kit as well? if so sign me up for that too! lol

p.s.
this is my first time participating in a GB. So my question is how and when do i actually pay for this?

Standard carbon fiber or stainless steel is what you like the looks of better.

Yes you will need the dynojet stage 2 as well.

You pay after the GB closes, someone will contact you for payment.

diwhiteii · February 17th, 2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thumper64

Any chance of a run of pre gen systems?

That would up to Kerry, don't know if enough people would get togehter to make worth while.

diwhiteii · February 17th, 2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mariorivera830

Conditionally, yes. As a as i don't cause any trouble if my tax money doesn't come in time and I have to drop out.
I'll take a 12" carbon fiber can, conical end cap (as dark as it comes; black or carbon fiber if possible) area p custom jet kit. And as much of the system (obviously not the pipes) in black or carbon as possible. Trying to go completely black on the bike. Thanks!

Got you down. As far as the pipes and endcaps they do not make black, they did a small batch of black endcaps about 3 years ago, but not planning on doing anymore. If you really really want black everything there is a process called Hot Powder Coating that I had done on one of my exhausts for my Ninja 250R. The colors available are matte black, dark grey, and white. I did the full Totsubo Exhaust in black and it cost me $500. Its pricey but if thats what you want then go for it. Here is the link to the shop I go to that has done alot of work for my motorcycles.

http://www.e-techpowdercoating.com/h...plications.htm

diwhiteii · February 17th, 2013, 01:46 PM

1.Joshuatrueanderson - 18" race system carbon fiber muffler with Flat Conical Billet End Cap + custom Area p jet kit + exhaust hanger bracket (black)
2.csmith12
3.mikecronis
4.akima - full stainless steel mid-high mount race system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler
5.Stinub91-
6.mariorivera830- 12" carbon fiber can, conical end cap, area p custom jet kit

mariorivera830 · February 17th, 2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by diwhiteii

Got you down. As far as the pipes and endcaps they do not make black, they did a small batch of black endcaps about 3 years ago, but not planning on doing anymore. If you really really want black everything there is a process called Hot Powder Coating that I had done on one of my exhausts for my Ninja 250R. The colors available are matte black, dark grey, and white. I did the full Totsubo Exhaust in black and it cost me $500. Its pricey but if thats what you want then go for it. Here is the link to the shop I go to that has done alot of work for my motorcycles.

http://www.e-techpowdercoating.com/h...plications.htm

Thanks! I imagine that I can get this done pretty much anywhere, right? It's just powder coating or is there a difference between that and "hot" powder coating? I think for the immediate future, I would just be getting the end cap and find a way to get the rivets done as well. The pipes I may just have wrapped with some exhaust wrap until it gets the powder coating treatment. Thanks.

csmith12 · February 17th, 2013, 05:40 PM

As long as it don't drag, it good to go!

sneak78 · February 18th, 2013, 05:25 AM

hi, how much would cost a 18" street full system with the FI nut and shipping to france? thanks.

kbryant · February 18th, 2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mariorivera830

Thanks! I imagine that I can get this done pretty much anywhere, right? It's just powder coating or is there a difference between that and "hot" powder coating? I think for the immediate future, I would just be getting the end cap and find a way to get the rivets done as well. The pipes I may just have wrapped with some exhaust wrap until it gets the powder coating treatment. Thanks.

Please note - we do not utilize rivets on any of our mufflers. We use stainless steel button head screws to secure the end caps. Also, we highly recommend that you do not utilize any kind of exhaust wrap. These wraps trap heat and moisture and do not allow the lightweight 304 series stainless steel tubing to cool and dry naturally and may cause it to become brittle over time.

kbryant · February 18th, 2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sneak78

hi, how much would cost a 18" street full system with the FI nut and shipping to france? thanks.

Shipping cost is approximately $95.00. If by "FI nut", you mean an O2 Bung - we can supply a CNC'd 304 series stainless steel Bung specifically designed for our systems. We do not install them because of issues with not knowing the exact location required for clearance. Since we do not get the FI 250r in the US, we have have had issues in the past with getting the Bung installed exactly where it needs to be. Therefore, we now simply offer the Bung seperately and you would have someone install it for you.

kbryant · February 18th, 2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stinub91

Sign me up for the GB!

Would you recommend the standard carbon fiber full exhaust over the stainless steel version or do they just look differently?

The primary differences besides aesthetics are weight and radiant heat. The carbon fiber muffler weighs approximately 1 lb less than the stainless steel muffler version and it puts out less radiant heat.

mariorivera830 · February 18th, 2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kbryant

Please note - we do not utilize rivets on any of our mufflers. We use stainless steel button head screws to secure the end caps. Also, we highly recommend that you do not utilize any kind of exhaust wrap. These wraps trap heat and moisture and do not allow the lightweight 304 series stainless steel tubing to cool and dry naturally and may cause it to become brittle over time.

Alrighty then, no exhaust wrap. As far as the screws for the end cap, the end cap itself, and the screws on the side fo the can, are those easily removable to have them powder coated or is that not advised?

I'm talking about the ones on the sides of the actual can.
Also, thanks for schooling me on this stuff! I learn more everyday I read on these forums!

Stinub91 · February 18th, 2013, 10:20 AM

Then a carbon fiber exhaust it is

kbryant · February 18th, 2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mariorivera830

Alrighty then, no exhaust wrap. As far as the screws for the end cap, the end cap itself, and the screws on the side fo the can, are those easily removable to have them powder coated or is that not advised?

I'm talking about the ones on the sides of the actual can.
Also, thanks for schooling me on this stuff! I learn more everyday I read on these forums!

The end caps, especially the Flat Conical Billet End Caps are not the easiest to remove. We design them with very precise tolerances. The end caps are press-fit into the muffler shell and core, then bonded with a 2000 F. silicone based agent, then secured with the button head screws. We build them to stay together and last a very, very long time.

Obviously we have the equipment, tools, and skills to take them apart without damage. But it would not be an easy task to you to do and we do not recommend it.

Perhaps you might consider simply taping off the muffler and painting the end caps with a high temp black paint. I have seen this done in the past with good results by some customers.

mariorivera830 · February 18th, 2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kbryant

The end caps, especially the Flat Conical Billet End Caps are not the easiest to remove. We design them with very precise tolerances. The end caps are press-fit into the muffler shell and core, then bonded with a 2000 F. silicone based agent, then secured with the button head screws. We build them to stay together and last a very, very long time.

Obviously we have the equipment, tools, and skills to take them apart without damage. But it would not be an easy task to you to do and we do not recommend it.

Perhaps you might consider simply taping off the muffler and painting the end caps with a high temp black paint. I have seen this done in the past with good results by some customers.

I was afraid of that. Word on the streets is that you guys don't mess around! Ok I guess I will have to be innovative to achieve what I want done. Thanks again. I see that you guys are based out in Anaheim and somewhere in Florida, is your shop is Anaheim available for visits? In case I'm not able to get the money in before the group buy is done with, to help save on shipping and a few pointers on installation?

diwhiteii · February 18th, 2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mariorivera830

Thanks! I imagine that I can get this done pretty much anywhere, right? It's just powder coating or is there a difference between that and "hot" powder coating? I think for the immediate future, I would just be getting the end cap and find a way to get the rivets done as well. The pipes I may just have wrapped with some exhaust wrap until it gets the powder coating treatment. Thanks.

Don't think it is available anywhere, it is special material and you would have to check around. There is a difference between regular powder coating and hot powder coating the information is on the website link.

diwhiteii · February 18th, 2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinub91

Then a carbon fiber exhaust it is

Do you want the standard or mid-high race system?

Stinub91 · February 18th, 2013, 02:03 PM

The standard carbon fiber exhaust with the dynojet stage 2 kit please

February 14th, 2013, 08:22 AM	#45
YORCHI n00b Name: Jorge Location: Perris, CA Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2010 Ninja 250 Posts: 581	I'm here for the GB! __________________________________________________ Facebook YouTube #KCCO

February 15th, 2013, 02:05 AM	#48
mariorivera830 MoVal's only ninjette :( Name: Mario Location: Moreno Valley, Ca Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r SE Black with a dash of yellow Posts: 120	I'd like to get in on this as well, but I am not sure when we are getting our tax money. This is my tax-mas present from myself but I was part of the group that couldnt submit my taxes until yesterday because I claimed some of the education credits. That put my tax-mas back at least a few weeks. My question is this: when is the absolute last minute that I can submit my payment to get in on this group buy? Thanks in advance __________________________________________________ Success is the ability to go from one failure to the next, without any loss of enthusiasm-

February 16th, 2013, 11:09 AM	#60
diwhiteii ninjette.org guru Name: David Location: Lafayette, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 279	Group Buy 250R Update 1.Joshuatrueanderson - 18" race system carbon fiber muffler with Flat Conical Billet End Cap + custom Area p jet kit + exhaust hanger bracket (black) 2.csmith12 3.mikecronis 4.akima - full stainless steel mid-high mount race system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler 5. ?

February 16th, 2013, 10:33 PM	#63
thumper64 ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Quad Cities Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 102	Any chance of a run of pre gen systems? __________________________________________________ Motorcycle noob, feel free to ignore me.

February 17th, 2013, 01:46 PM	#67
diwhiteii ninjette.org guru Name: David Location: Lafayette, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 279	Updated list, half way to having a drawing for a free exhaust! 1.Joshuatrueanderson - 18" race system carbon fiber muffler with Flat Conical Billet End Cap + custom Area p jet kit + exhaust hanger bracket (black) 2.csmith12 3.mikecronis 4.akima - full stainless steel mid-high mount race system with 18" Carbon Fiber Muffler 5.Stinub91- 6.mariorivera830- 12" carbon fiber can, conical end cap, area p custom jet kit

February 13th, 2013, 04:34 PM	#42
joshuatrueanderson ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: vail, co Join Date: Jan 2013 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r, blue Posts: 44	damn that doesnt look stockish at all... sexy.. thanks jiggles. gonna go with the 18 now. Performance trumps looks.

February 13th, 2013, 10:21 PM	#44
mikecronis ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Colorado Springs, CO Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R-J, 2005 Honda Superhawk VTR1000 Posts: 95	Doing research on their website, the 18" is the better buy for the standard Area-P or the Race version. On the standard Area-P, there's no difference between the 12" and 18". On the race version Area-P, the 18" has better performance by about 1.5Hp.

February 16th, 2013, 02:47 PM	#61
Stinub91 ninjette.org newbie Name: Miguel Location: Tulare, Ca Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: 4	Sign me up for the GB! Would you recommend the standard carbon fiber full exhaust over the stainless steel version or do they just look differently? and my bike is completely stock but want to put on this full exhaust and put in a k&n air filter in the stock airbox. So would that mean i need their dynojet stage 2 kit as well? if so sign me up for that too! lol p.s. this is my first time participating in a GB. So my question is how and when do i actually pay for this?

February 17th, 2013, 05:40 PM	#69
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	As long as it don't drag, it good to go! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

February 18th, 2013, 05:25 AM	#70
sneak78 ninjette.org member Name: matthieu Location: france Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r 2010 green Posts: 25	hi, how much would cost a 18" street full system with the FI nut and shipping to france? thanks.

February 18th, 2013, 10:20 AM	#75
Stinub91 ninjette.org newbie Name: Miguel Location: Tulare, Ca Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: 4	Then a carbon fiber exhaust it is

February 18th, 2013, 02:03 PM	#80
Stinub91 ninjette.org newbie Name: Miguel Location: Tulare, Ca Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: 4	The standard carbon fiber exhaust with the dynojet stage 2 kit please

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