Brembo/Tokico Caliper adapter, 250 & 300 GB

[subxero]

I despise the "smart post" crap usps has going on. It basically translates into you will get it when by chance we have a full truck going out that way.

[tfkrocks]

Spoke too soon. Caliper came today (couple weeks past the original delivery date...). Should have time to work on the bike on wed.

[sharky nrk]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

Finished the rest of them. I had 1 extra but Delta has dibs on it as long as Rebecca verifies the 300 fitment. I will ship them early next week. Sharky, i recieved your radial mount tokico, i can def make one, but its going to take some time since now my bike is back together for a track day next week. It will also be a decent amount longer and thicker to accomadate. I may have to charge more due to the extra material, in the 60 -75 shipped range depending on a GB and all that jazz. Once i verify my bike actually works ill start figuring out a design for that. Ill PM the rest of you my information today at some point when i get a few minutes.

10-4 man, no sweat. For those of you guys that get them installed, make sure and post up pics and reviews for the rest of the board

[subxero]

^ this

Just quick update, my brembo setup has been working flawlessly, love it. When I did the initial swap It had been a few months since I had ridden so it was hard for me to remember what stock brakes felt like, I knew my new setup was better but by how much?

The other day I got to jump on a stock 250 for a few minutes and wanted to see what the brakes were like for comparison. It was night and day on many levels, power, feel, of the new set up is so much better but that should go with out saying considering what I ended up with

As far as the bracket, again, no issues what so ever, everything is tight like a tiger and looks great as well.

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by subxero

^ this

Just quick update, my brembo setup has been working flawlessly, love it. When I did the initial swap It had been a few months since I had ridden so it was hard for me to remember what stock brakes felt like, I knew my new setup was better but by how much?

The other day I got to jump on a stock 250 for a few minutes and wanted to see what the brakes were like for comparison. It was night and day on many levels, power, feel, of the new set up is so much better but that should go with out saying considering what I ended up with

As far as the bracket, again, no issues what so ever, everything is tight like a tiger and looks great as well.

What master cylinder did you end up using?

[subxero]

@bruce71198

kind of got off the budget track for that piece of the puzzle

brembo 15RCS

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...&postcount=129

I feel like the 15mm is a really good size for the setup i have now and a 16 could possibly be just a hair better but I will never know.

So 15 is definitely great, would a 16 make things a little to wooden? I doubt it but only one way to find out.

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by subxero

@bruce71198

kind of got off the budget track for that piece of the puzzle

brembo 15RCS

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...&postcount=129

I feel like the 15mm is a really good size for the setup i have now and a 16 could possibly be just a hair better but I will never know.

So 15 is definitely great, would a 16 make things a little to wooden? I doubt it but only one way to find out.

I have the tociko caliper on a 320mm rotor with the stock master. Feels a little spongy but doesn't pull to the bar. I'm going to the track this weekend without trying it out first. Just hoping all goes well.

[subxero]

^ I got by with the stock MC for 2 weeks but I had to tone things down for sure when riding and it was clear that the stock MC was not going to cut it. I'm sure I could have got by with a take off 15 or 16 from an older zxr, r6, ect...

If I were you going to the track I would really try to get a 15mm MC on there before hand, will give you a lot more performance for sure.

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by subxero

^ I got by with the stock MC for 2 weeks but I had to tone things down for sure when riding and it was clear that the stock MC was not going to cut it. I'm sure I could have got by with a take off 15 or 16 from an older zxr, r6, ect...

If I were you going to the track I would really try to get a 15mm MC on there before hand, will give you a lot more performance for sure.

After reading this I got nervous and decided to take my race bike for a ride through the hood. Managed to evade the local law enforcement. All I can say is holly braking power! Ill update after the weekend

[Bigballsofpaint]

From old3's results he said the stock M/C was about a perfect match for the tokico (he used various M/Cs and calipers), so does this mean your confirming stock M/C and tokico? I have a trackday monday and thats what im running haha. i got vesrah HH pads on it, and if i squuze REALLY hard i can just about get the lever to hit the handle bar. Im pretty sure i have no need to pull that hard...i need to take it around the block but its been super rainy here. I bled the brakes and it still didnt feel "right" so i did the zip tie for 24 hr which seem to help quite a bit.

[broken neck]

So,

I tore down my tokiko to rebuild it with fresh new seals... I saw, that on mine, it has the bolt that secure the two brake lines to the caliper, one from the M/C and the one that goes to the left caliper.

Since I only need one line, can I use the bolt from my OEM caliper from the Ninja? I guess so, but what have you done?

Thanks,

[subxero]

yeah it's possible the brembo caliper I have is a good bit different than the Tokico regarding all that physics/math/force blah blah blah stuff. So it seems like Bruce thinks his setup is good enough for now.

Like I mentioned, my brembo with the stock MC was not acceptable

[Bigballsofpaint]

Originally Posted by broken neck

So,

I tore down my tokiko to rebuild it with fresh new seals... I saw, that on mine, it has the bolt that secure the two brake lines to the caliper, one from the M/C and the one that goes to the left caliper.

Since I only need one line, can I use the bolt from my OEM caliper from the Ninja? I guess so, but what have you done?

Thanks,

I used the stock line with no issue OTHER than its got less slack (at full travel) then the stock caliper. When i upgrade to an SS line i will add an inch to the stock length. I do not see it being an issue ( i also have WC clip ons, i dont know if that make a difference based on height). Since the front end shouldnt be full extended while riding in most cases.

[Bigballsofpaint]

Originally Posted by subxero

yeah it's possible the brembo caliper I have is a good bit different than the Tokico regarding all that physics/math/force blah blah blah stuff. So it seems like Bruce thinks his setup is good enough for now.

Like I mentioned, my brembo with the stock MC was not acceptable

Ya the piston size of the caliper plays into it and all that jazz. I know the tokico that sharky sent me off another bike has pistons that are for sure larger, so the stock M/C may not be good with that one.

[bruce71198]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

From old3's results he said the stock M/C was about a perfect match for the tokico (he used various M/Cs and calipers), so does this mean your confirming stock M/C and tokico? I have a trackday monday and thats what im running haha. i got vesrah HH pads on it, and if i squuze REALLY hard i can just about get the lever to hit the handle bar. Im pretty sure i have no need to pull that hard...i need to take it around the block but its been super rainy here. I bled the brakes and it still didnt feel "right" so i did the zip tie for 24 hr which seem to help quite a bit.

I think mine is about the same as far as feel at rest. Take it out on the road and get the pads bedded in a d the lever feel will improve. I found that about 1/4 lever travel will about put you over the bars

[broken neck]

I'll install the stainless steel lines that I bought in a group buy here...

I've wanted to know which bolt you use to secure the brake line, the one from the tokico caliper (mine has holes for two lines) or the one from the OEM (kawasaki) caliper.

Thanks,

[Bigballsofpaint]

Originally Posted by broken neck

I'll install the stainless steel lines that I bought in a group buy here...

I've wanted to know which bolt you use to secure the brake line, the one from the tokico caliper (mine has holes for two lines) or the one from the OEM (kawasaki) caliper.

Thanks,

Sorry, when i said i used the stock line i meant the stock line with the stock banjo bolt.

[broken neck]

Okay,

Thanks for the info...

[bruce71198]

I wonder if people looking for info on brake upgrades are checking the classifieds? Maybe this thread should be moved to tech.

[tfkrocks]

Note to self: don't buy things late at night while out of town. I just realized that I am a dumb**** and bought the wrong caliper. Buying a correct one now...

[DaveTheCanuck]

Silly question, but you're still taking orders for these right?

VERY interested in the Tokico adapter!

[Bigballsofpaint]

All have been nabbed. If there is enough interest a new one can be started. I only plan on making them in groups, its just a hastle otherwise.

[Xtina]

ugh I have the usd style tokiko calipers (06-07 gsxr). This bracket will not fit. poop

[Bigballsofpaint]

Lucky for you they can be had for 30 or less on ebay....

[Xtina]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

Lucky for you they can be had for 30 or less on ebay....

exactly what year and type caliper is it?

[Bigballsofpaint]

00-02 gsxr 750 or 01-03 gsxr 600 appear to be the same 4 pot calipers

[tfkrocks]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

00-02 gsxr 750 or 01-03 gsxr 600 appear to be the same 4 pot calipers

I think it's actually 01-03 gsxr 750s. Same exact years.

[Bigballsofpaint]

maybe thats it, i ordered an 02 GSXR 750, and just went by what the listing said it would fit.

[old3]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

maybe thats it, i ordered an 02 GSXR 750, and just went by what the listing said it would fit.

Nice that you stepped up and made these. SVR must be having trouble at some point of manufacture. I think I posted the last email reply he sent me, I think he is as frustrated as anyone else that they aren't ready.

They look great BBoP!

So, do you have any Tokico matched brackets for a 320 rotor? I'm still running my steel- hand fabbed plate and spacers with a knock off 320mm and 6p Hyabusa caliper pushed by a Ninja 650 master.

Thanks for getting this done for the riders! Well done!

[Bigballsofpaint]

No 320mm, but if you sent me your s so i could get dimensions then it would only take me a week to get something done Maybe 2...

[old3]

Where in Ct are you? Maybe we could meet up, I'm in NNJ. Ringwood.

[Bigballsofpaint]

Im up in torrington, NW corner.

[old3]

2 hours, 3 if I try to make it more interesting! I'll PM you and see if we can meet up.

Jim

[Bigballsofpaint]

Sharky will be waiting for a radial unit, so i have one last tokico adapter to sell for now. If someone wants it let me know.

[DaveTheCanuck]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

Sharky will be waiting for a radial unit, so i have one last tokico adapter to sell for now. If someone wants it let me know.

PM'd

[Bigballsofpaint]

The final ones shipped this morning, thanks guys! Let me know if you have any feedback. Mine performed great at the track on Monday, my brake lever is a little squishy, more than likely needs another good bleed but it worked great.

[DaveTheCanuck]

Originally Posted by Bigballsofpaint

The final ones shipped this morning, thanks guys! Let me know if you have any feedback. Mine performed great at the track on Monday, my brake lever is a little squishy, more than likely needs another good bleed but it worked great.

Yay

[garth285]

Any rear brake upgrades available for the 08-12?

[Bigballsofpaint]

Never checked into it, most people avoid wanting a stronger rear brake. personally, the stock brake is more than adequate to lock up the rear pretty easily even with stock pads. If you find a caliper youd want to use though i can see if its do-able

[DaveTheCanuck]

I've purposely left my rear brake spongy because of how bloody easily it locks up. No upgrade necessary.