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Old June 29th, 2009, 09:06 PM   #161
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I took the equivalent sort of course from the Vancouver Island Safety Council back in March 1992. I didn't know anything about riding when I took it, and I found it very good. I would highly recommend such a course to anyone taking up riding.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 09:34 PM   #162
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In Alabama all you need for a license is a $5 dollar written test (20 q's) and a 18 buck picture fee

COMMON SENSE goes real far
I lived in LA for four yrs (Lower Alabama)

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Old June 29th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #163
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may I ask why you've not taken it?
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I lived in LA for four yrs (Lower Alabama)

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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:11 AM   #164
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Not only did I take it, I have to take it again
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:14 AM   #165
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Welcome, Ari... why do you need to take it again??
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:23 AM   #166
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Welcome, Ari... why do you need to take it again??
Thanks, mainly because I hadn't had much experience on a bicycle, let alone a motorcycle, so I had difficulty balancing in motion, never dropped it or anything, but still. Now I have to get on a bicycle and get my balance down, then go back. Only downside is since I still live with my dad, I can't get my ninja until I pass the friggen course.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:52 AM   #167
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Old June 30th, 2009, 03:29 AM   #168
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sorry, but.... smart Dad.
Just because I buy one doesn't mean I'll ride. It's just a peace of mind, so I can stop looking and looking and looking. Bike's that are in great condition, the right color, and the right price, don't come around very often, and when they do, it's not really fun to pass up on it, knowing you have the money on hand. I have no problem at all parking it in the garage and locking the keys in the safe and not just until I pass MSF, but until the certificate of completion comes. However, when you're being threatened with no longer having a bed to sleep in, you don't have much pull.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 05:28 AM   #169
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Ari, if you can't ride a bicycle yet maybe you should start with roller skates. It will give you some balance lessons just standing up.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 07:39 AM   #170
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Nate, I think you should go back and read Kelly's comments on the ERC, and you'll see that you do have a lot that you can gain.

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Old June 30th, 2009, 10:23 AM   #171
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Common Sense will take you far though
Common sense and knowing the "proper" way of doing things are two completely different things. In my class I had a few grizzled veterans that were riding longer then you have who learned new things and corrected bad habits they didn't even know they had. Just because you THINK you have common sense (talk about an oxymoron of a term) doesn't mean you won't learn something from the course that could save your life.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 11:32 AM   #172
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id sure like to take a course at a track..we all have our own opinions dont we in this case i responded to a question and i gave my two cents
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Nate, Kevin Schwantz does a school to Barber so you're in luck. Tell us how is was after you go.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 01:59 PM   #176
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Old June 30th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #177
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What did you not enjoy living in AL?
Just wasn't that crazy about it. I lived on Ft Rucker, and this is another story, I had the worst weather there. A lot of things I liked, mainly the low cost of living. Summers were blistering. Only place, till I moved to Hawaii, where I went outside on Christmas day and played with my then little girl in shorts and t shirt. Nothing personal.

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Old July 1st, 2009, 09:08 AM   #178
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Just wasn't that crazy about it. I lived on Ft Rucker, and this is another story, I had the worst weather there. A lot of things I liked, mainly the low cost of living. Summers were blistering. Only place, till I moved to Hawaii, where I went outside on Christmas day and played with my then little girl in shorts and t shirt. Nothing personal.

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yeah its hot and in some aspects backwards lol im a army brat and former service so ive seen it all well except hawaii
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 01:51 PM   #179
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Yes I finished mine on June 14th

Our class was excellent! Everyone in the class was of the "beginner" level just about all of us just bought or prospecting a bike. Thanks to Bob and Shirley they made my learning experience fun and engaging. Although I was the shining star of the class, not to brag , I am a horrible test taker and choked on the braking portion. My favorite exercise was the double u-turn in the box, took some practice and it quickly became a fav. I'd like to attempt all of the exercises using my ninja, for better feel of control. I look forward to taking the advanced rider course in the near future. Thanks again Bob and Shirley!

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Old July 27th, 2009, 01:31 PM   #180
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First post on this forum...

I took a similar course here in Calgary (paying $600 for it, so don't complain about $150) and did absolutely horribly. Everyone else in my class was able to go on the road ride at the end of the second day, and I was held back because I had the tendency to drop the bike at stops...

2 EXPENSIVE practice sessions with the instructor later (one on the lot and one on the road), and I'm still doing it, although much less often... I keep losing my balance when the bike leans on my leg. I'm extremely short of inseam (28"), and 30.5" was the lowest seat height they had.

I also really wish they had different classes for those who have had previous riding experience (whether it be street or dirt), and those like me who have never even touched a manual transmission, let alone a motorbike.

Ari Nova: I'm not that great on a bicycle either. I flipped over badly at age 11 and only got back on one this year, at age 26!
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Old July 27th, 2009, 01:35 PM   #181
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I do feel badly for those folks who start MSF with zero experience with manual transmissions. I'd advise anyone in that boat to convince a (good) friend with a manual transmission car to take you out a couple weekends prior to learn how to drive a stickshift. Once someone has that basic knowledge, translating it to shifting/clutch use on a motorcycle becomes second nature very quickly. IMO it's also a bit easier to use the clutch on a bike as a beginner (compared to a car), as it's typically easier to get the bike rolling from a stop than a car, and the clutch is often much more forgiving. There's much less inertia from the smaller motor, and less weight to get moving as a whole as well.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 01:44 PM   #183
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I fully intend to do so -- WHEN I get a bike. I am not solid enough to try the road test for my license yet, so if I bought a bike, it'd just be sitting around at the dealership since I can't get it home...

The bikes they have at the school are only as low as 30.5" (Honda CBR125) so that's all I have to work with...
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Old July 27th, 2009, 01:50 PM   #185
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Old July 28th, 2009, 11:02 AM   #186
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Completed and passed the course last weekend!
I got to ride on 09 Ninjette in blue exactly the same as my bike! There were 24 students and the bikes they had for us were Nighthawks, small Suzuki cruisers, small dual bikes and one Ninjette. Many wanted Nighthawk and when the instructor asked me which I prefer, without hesitation I picked the Ninjette. I guess it was meant to be! Second day they replaced my Ninjette with 09 in red which is my excuse for screwing up a little in the "BOX" evaluation The course was fun and helpful and I'm glad I took it. Although I've been practicing a lot since I bought my bike a month ago, I feel lot more confident now.

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Old July 28th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #187
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I took it because: It let me get my license w/o having to do the roadtest, it let me get experience on a bike without owning one at the time, gave me confidence to ride once I got my bike, taught me valuable skills, and it was fun. I have a guide, or rather a cheat sheet of the final exam posted at kawiforums HERE.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 03:40 PM   #188
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In Alabama all you need for a license is a $5 dollar written test (20 q's) and a 18 buck picture fee

COMMON SENSE goes real far
At least Alabama has a restricted licence program, I got my M class licence when I was 14, but I was restricted under 150cc's until my 16th B-day, then with no retest or anything I had a unrestricted licence.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 06:22 PM   #189
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Never took it. I rode dirtbikes for a very long time, doesnt really mean anything. I already had the controls down since they are the same for street bikes. The obvious difference is riding in traffic.

I have not seen the need for myself to take it, as I did not see myself as a "newb" to riding. When I wanted my M endorsement I went down to the DMV in Virginia, rode around the course and passed.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:53 AM   #190
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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:38 PM   #191
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If I'm still around the area next year I'll take it. It's $160.00 at my local community college.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 07:52 PM   #192
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required in the Army, at least here in HI. I thought that it was great, coming from never owning a bike to have the license in a matter of days. Made getting the license a whole lot easier. Today I finally got the last I needed to ride. The US Army Hawaii requires you to have the MSF, license and a eval on your bike, and every bike that you will be riding. My 250 is really sluggish in first and the figure 8 was a pain, till I figured out to ride it in 2nd and then I aced it.

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Thank GOD some one mentioned that. Like I said I am attending the class here on the island because I HATE work and my friend is going through. My first trip through was on the buel blast and this time (with my ninjette) I had been having problems, especially on the "slalom" and the figure 8, untill I figured out that 2nd was much easier to perform in. I would def suggest doing these in 2nd and the tight turns in first (riding the clutch and back break of course). I think this would be very good info for future MSF attenders.

NB I am scheduled for the sport bike course at the end of the year, lots of time to pratice I know, but jut getting a jump on things. Have you taken it???
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Figure 8 damn!! I'm glad I didn't have to do that. I never took the course. Also we have one county here where to get your license you actually have to do a street test were the instructor follows you in a car with a bull horn.
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yup because it was much easier than getting my license through the dmv

great program but wasn't enough training or practice to safely issue a license in my opinion. I think it created a false sense of confidence which may have caused me to fall on sunday.
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Thanks, mainly because I hadn't had much experience on a bicycle, let alone a motorcycle, so I had difficulty balancing in motion, never dropped it or anything, but still. Now I have to get on a bicycle and get my balance down, then go back. Only downside is since I still live with my dad, I can't get my ninja until I pass the friggen course.
Haha yeaa same here, so i had to make sure I passed. I fell during my course but quickly recovered and stuck with it and did fine.



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Just because I buy one doesn't mean I'll ride. It's just a peace of mind, so I can stop looking and looking and looking. Bike's that are in great condition, the right color, and the right price, don't come around very often, and when they do, it's not really fun to pass up on it, knowing you have the money on hand. I have no problem at all parking it in the garage and locking the keys in the safe and not just until I pass MSF, but until the certificate of completion comes. However, when you're being threatened with no longer having a bed to sleep in, you don't have much pull.
I know exactly what you mean, and seeing that beautiful bike in your garage would only be more inspiration to reach your goal! but with parents, rules is rules and I know how that goes. I went to the dealer ever chance I got and just spent 30 minutes sitting on the bike I wanted, i couldnt wait.. then i got my bike and slide across a parking lot.. 2 days ago.. but just practice on the bicycle and keep thinking positively and if your sure about really wanting to do this then things will work out...
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Im takin teh MSF next week actually.. $350 here.. and I hear the Canadians speaking about how expensive it was.. was that Canadian dollars?

I also have almost 900miles on my Ninja under my belt.. so while I am not expecting how to 'ride', I want to learn beyond the basics and how to emergency stop.. lane change.. that kind of thing.. I dunno guys and gals.. the dreaded 'friction zone' was nothing to worry about.. and I agree that previous experience with a stick made it a no brainer.. I didn't have any training.. I just hopped on and took it around the block. I also have bicycle experience and PWC experience.. the trickier parts of bikes for me were higher speed turns and panic stops.. JMO of course... Your results may vary. Use only as directed.. consult your physician.
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Took the MSF course a couple of weeks ago. Awesome Cycles in Houston. Great people.

I had never ridden a motorcycle before or had much experience with a manual transmission. I was pretty nervous when we first got on the bikes not really knowing what to expect but I ended up doing fine. It definitely helped watching a lot of videos on how to ride and the basics of riding a motorcycle. That way I had some knowledge on how to get started but just had to apply it physically.

The class certainly won't teach you everything but provides you with a safe environment to get some experience with cornering, stopping, etc. I had a great time and would recommend it to anyone looking at starting off on a bike. Now I just need to cut back on some monthly expenses to afford my bike and insurance so I can get my very own Ninjette! Can't wait. It feels like I got addicted just from the limited experience in the MSF course.
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I took the MSF course a month ago, Its required if you're under 21 years of age but it was fun... the two guys who teach the riders part were only like 25 though
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