question about safety switches (clutch)

[daverdfw]

I am working to make my 2009 a dedicated track bike. From what I gathered on the kickstand switch I just solder the 2 wires together. But I am trying to eliminate the left hand cluster or switches. What do I do with the clutch safety switch?

[cbinker]

Take it off, al it does is makes it so you can start the bike in gear.

[daverdfw]

Originally Posted by cbinker

Take it off, al it does is makes it so you can start the bike in gear.

ok thanks! Thats what I thought after reading the wiki, but I wanted to verify.

[cbinker]

this is my set up:

[daverdfw]

Originally Posted by cbinker

this is my set up:

ah you swapped the kill switch to the left, was that because of the motion pro requiring their kill switch?

[cbinker]

more space on the left for the kill switch

[kalleh]

Originally Posted by cbinker

Take it off, al it does is makes it so you can start the bike in gear.

My bike doesn't have the switch right now now, but I'm planning on changing that for the next racing season (at least adding a jumper cable). Why? Stalling in the wrong spot is can be dangerous on a race track, and not having to fiddle with getting the bike into neutral can get you going faster.

This is particularly true at a race start, but I can imagine some track day scenarios as well.

[cbinker]

Originally Posted by kalleh

My bike doesn't have the switch right now now, but I'm planning on changing that for the next racing season (at least adding a jumper cable). Why? Stalling in the wrong spot is can be dangerous on a race track, and not having to fiddle with getting the bike into neutral can get you going faster.

This is particularly true at a race start, but I can imagine some track day scenarios as well.

you are racing the wrong level and wrong bike if those are your concerns.

[kalleh]

Originally Posted by cbinker

you are racing the wrong level and wrong bike if those are your concerns.

I have no idea what that means.

[AchyGrappler]

I want to do the right-cluster-to-left swap with the quick turn throttle on my pregen race bike. I will be keeping the clutch switch as there is no point in removing it if you are looking for weight loss as it only weighs grams. I can get the same performance boost if I stop drinking beer (not going to happen BTW).

[MrAtom]

Hmm... My pregen's clutch safety switch broke, and I'm pretty sure I can start it in gear. Is it different?

[rc racer]

Originally Posted by kalleh

My bike doesn't have the switch right now now, but I'm planning on changing that for the next racing season (at least adding a jumper cable). Why? Stalling in the wrong spot is can be dangerous on a race track, and not having to fiddle with getting the bike into neutral can get you going faster.

This is particularly true at a race start, but I can imagine some track day scenarios as well.

I completely agree with this. I recently prepped my bike and removed all the wiring to the left handlebar including the clutch safety switch. Next race weekend during one of my starts after gridding up and waiting for the flagger to go through his starting process I pulled the clutch and dropped it into first. There was enough resistance to the engine that it died. Instinctively I kept the clutch pulled and frantically stabbed the starter button but it will not start unless I found neutral again. Green flag was shown and all I could do was wave my arms while the grid thankfully went around me without incident. Then finally find neutral, start the bike and chase the pack.

I wired in a jumper in the next day.

[daverdfw]

Originally Posted by rc racer

I completely agree with this. I recently prepped my bike and removed all the wiring to the left handlebar including the clutch safety switch. Next race weekend during one of my starts after gridding up and waiting for the flagger to go through his starting process I pulled the clutch and dropped it into first. There was enough resistance to the engine that it died. Instinctively I kept the clutch pulled and frantically stabbed the starter button but it will not start unless I found neutral again. Green flag was shown and all I could do was wave my arms while the grid thankfully went around me without incident. Then finally find neutral, start the bike and chase the pack.

I wired in a jumper in the next day.

what part of the harness is the switch? there are like 2 connectors, One is a 2 wire and then a bigger complex like 6 or 8 connector one.

[rc racer]

Originally Posted by daverdfw

what part of the harness is the switch? there are like 2 connectors, One is a 2 wire and then a bigger complex like 6 or 8 connector one.

The switch is on the clutch lever perch with a little plunger that makes contact with the clutch lever. The switch will just have two wires and if you remove the left switch cluster and all wiring associated with it the bike does not know if you have the clutch pulled. I just followed the two wires back to where they plugged into the main harness under the tank and put a jumper in place of the clutch lever switch wires.

Now I can start the bike in gear in an emergency. Only problem is the bike always thinks the clutch is pulled so it can be started in gear even without the clutch lever being pulled. I am much less worried about that possibility though.

Sorry I cant tell you specifics about wire colors or positions in the plug. I did this a while ago and don't remember but its pretty easy to trace by looking at wire colors.

[Dsheumaker]

Maybe im reading this wrong, but to me it looks like the circuit is opened when the clutch is pulled in, this snip is from the wiring diagram.

[Dsheumaker]

Oh and that is for the NewGen BTW! not sure if the same for the pregen.

[daverdfw]

I tracked it down, and all I did was cut the cover to the wires and pulled out the separate ones for the switch. So I wont have the huge connector with all the other wires, just the 2 going to the switch.