A Thanks to the 'Squids' - Page 2

Buffalony · June 9th, 2009, 11:28 PM

Pilot16=

zartan · June 9th, 2009, 11:46 PM

Firestarter that is classic!!

Pro'bly enough material for a psych. term paper now with this posting on multiple forums.

smart people= squid bad ,fire good!!!

Buffalony · June 10th, 2009, 10:06 PM

ha. Yeah or we'll be seeing an article in the next sport rider Mag. lol

Pilot16 · June 11th, 2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Elfling

Pilot, if you're going to keep posting this on every forum, I think you need to clarify your distinction of squid vs stunters vs aggressive riders. You're getting bad press by using a loaded term. I get what you're saying but you're just bringing the hate on yourself.

Thanks, but honestly, it means, stunter, or aggressive rider, or no gear. It means many things to many people. Sure it has an original meaning, but over time it changes in peoples mindset. Anyways people hating doesn't bother me, everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as it doesn't get too personal.

backinthesaddleagain · June 11th, 2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pilot16

Thanks, but honestly, it means, stunter, or aggressive rider, or no gear. It means many things to many people. Sure it has an original meaning, but over time it changes in peoples mindset. Anyways people hating doesn't bother me, everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as it doesn't get too personal.

Believe in the 80's it was a slow rider.

addy126 · June 11th, 2009, 01:02 PM

I see "squids" coming through the E.R. every weekend and Thurs bike nights.. they seem to get what they ride for... "death, neurological injuries, amputation, breaks, rashes and months of rehab plus the bills".. yeah that's what squiding is all about.... rock and roll squids!

I won't even go into the collateral damage that ensues around them.... what a waste

djindia23 · June 11th, 2009, 01:16 PM

well im not gonna lie... i ride somewhat aggressively on my 250... and by aggressive i mean weaving in and out of traffic.... here in jersey some of these drivers are doing 50 when the speed limit is 55.... and thats fine and dandy when you're not in leftmost lane... soo i will go around them or weave all the way to the right to pass people... soo if that constitutes me being a squid then so be it...

i doo agree however that these fools we see poppin wheelies on major highways have to consider what they are doing a bit more soo to me those are the real squids... i dont think weaving in and out of traffic is as bad... but i guess im a lil biased...

addy126 · June 11th, 2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by djindia23

i dont think weaving in and out of traffic is as bad... but i guess im a lil biased...

Free country... ride as you like... still laws against certain activity dangerous to the public welfare and yours... one thing to remember, don't start crying when they wheel you into E.R. and jack around when they try to shove that intubation tube down your throat or insert that chest tube through your chest wall, between the ribs.... weaving will still get you into this mess of the cage that doesnt see you travelling @ 55+... oh work alot of hours and save up, the bills alone for your recovery not to mention criminal/civil suits that will very well bankrupt you for the remainder of your life.... just because you felt the urge to "weave" through impatience... rock on squidsters!

Oh yeah.. not to mention "job security for me!!!! yessssss!"

kkim · June 11th, 2009, 06:57 PM

lol

Alex · June 11th, 2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by djindia23

i dont think weaving in and out of traffic is as bad... but i guess im a lil biased...

The problem with weaving in and out of traffic isn't that it is always unsafe. The problem is that at some point, it's an ironclad guarantee that it will become unsafe when you don't expect it. You're making an assumption that the position of all the cars around you as you zip in and out is static, and they won't move or change positions quicker than you can react. As in a video game, where you're the guy playing and everybody else is a predictable slow-moving obstacle. The problem is that isn't true, and if you are zipping next to a car that doesn't realize you are there, and they make an unexpected lane change without signaling, you're fish food. Happens all the time here in California, where lane splitting is even legal and most cars are aware of the fact that motorcycles may be coming up alongside them from time to time.

The hope is that you'll have a terrible scare doing this at some point when a car you're passing unsafely does something you don't expect and almost takes you out, and you'll realize that riding in this manner is childish and unsafe. That's the hope, because the alternative is that you won't even have time to be scared when you just get taken out without notice. Good luck.

addy126 · June 11th, 2009, 10:17 PM

to you Alex

cwb48 · June 12th, 2009, 11:39 AM

Car traffic + motorcycle = trouble. If you spend a lot of time riding in car traffic, you will eventually get hit by a car- I hate to say it, but it's almost inevitable. It happened to me many years ago- teenage female driver changing lanes without looking, no signal, the whole deal. If you want to avoid the (almost) inevitable, find places to ride with little (car) traffic.

If you do choose to ride in automobile traffic, you will need all of your defensive driving strategies and constant vigilance- and weaving in and out of car traffic is definitely not a defensive technique. I personally think that motorcycle commuting is something you should not consider until you have a few years of riding experience.

Chris

ironglory · June 12th, 2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zartan

Brother, Pull up your pants....

Plumbers maybe???? Just cant resist- sori

ironglory · June 12th, 2009, 11:56 AM

Is there really a great lack of respect & consideration to others now-a-days or just ignorance?

An MSF Course should be administered to them as part of their penalty if caught with a week long of isolation, musicals & classical music... Dont get me wrong, I too love classical & musicals & esp CALAMARI. Not generalizing them but for the most part, Squids dont go for them.

krazygluon · June 12th, 2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Ever notice that when they serve squid it is either "fried" and in "red sauce". I guess that's how most end up.

Ever been to a sushi bar? You're forgetting "sliced up and raw" my favorite.

Somebody well known in the 1700's whose name escapes me is quoted with saying something to the tune of "everyone chooses the means to their own end."

Squids just choose to take risks that bring them to that end a little sooner.

My beef with them lies more in the statistically small but significant number of other people's deaths they are sometimes responsible for.

/trollfood off

ironglory · June 12th, 2009, 02:50 PM

That's another way too. hummm sushi, and have a yellow tail & uni..... I tried not to think of sushi but u have to mention it....

Now i have to go to NJ for this authentic all u can sushi for $20. Some where in Princeton. Maybe tomorrow....

I've been to some all u can eat but other asians are making it. Not that I dont like it, its not just authentic. Same as how other food tastes like chicken - well just give me chicken then.

krazygluon · June 12th, 2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot16

Thanks, but honestly, it means, stunter, or aggressive rider, or no gear. It means many things to many people. Sure it has an original meaning, but over time it changes in peoples mindset. Anyways people hating doesn't bother me, everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as it doesn't get too personal.

Stupidly
Quick
Underdressed (and)
Immenently
Dead

Sounds like a pretty objective and fitting definition to me.

n4t · June 12th, 2009, 10:46 PM

Well I guess I'm a squid. I'm sorry but when it gets 100F down here I won't be caught dead(literally) in my hot ass leather icon jacket. Thought don't get me wrong I wear it when I know I won't have a heat stroke at the redlight. I ride in tshirt, helmet, gloves, jeans, and boots. That's just me, I don't go around encouraging others to do it but I also believe that there is a time for everything and if it's my time to go then I shall go, getting a motorcycle ain't gonna slow that down in God's eyes. I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for this but I respect this guy on what he's saying. Yea, they might be idiots out there doing all of that but hey, I have to say it IS interesting to watch though that isn't what encouraged me to start riding and yes I am saying "What an idiot" in my head.

Also, I'm sorry but I'll have to say this is pretty fun to watch.
http://www.ghostridermovie.net/start.html
^^^ this guy has never wrecked (that I know of) and has never been caught by the cops... lucky guy I'd have to say. And did you ever think they might be doing it for the rush/adrenalin? Because I know this guy has a LOT of it lol.

and I would LOVE to have that full carbon fiber GSXR 1000

zartan · June 13th, 2009, 01:29 AM

This isn't about not wearing gear. It is about being stupid when riding.
You have a choice to wear gear. The risk is to yourself and totally your decision. that does not make you a squid.

Squids are people who do stupid things to endanger others.
Ghostrider is a tool.

Why are we even going on with this???

I will even toss a bunny cake in.

Elfling · June 13th, 2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by n4t

Well I guess I'm a squid. I'm sorry but when it gets 100F down here I won't be caught dead(literally) in my hot ass leather icon jacket. Thought don't get me wrong I wear it when I know I won't have a heat stroke at the redlight. I ride in tshirt, helmet, gloves, jeans, and boots. That's just me, I don't go around encouraging others to do it but I also believe that there is a time for everything and if it's my time to go then I shall go, getting a motorcycle ain't gonna slow that down in God's eyes. I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for this but I respect this guy on what he's saying. Yea, they might be idiots out there doing all of that but hey, I have to say it IS interesting to watch though that isn't what encouraged me to start riding and yes I am saying "What an idiot" in my head.

Too hot for gear, too hot to ride. And honestly, if you have a good vented/perforated leather jacket, it's *cooler* than a textile to me. Not much you can do about being stopped at stoplights but when moving and overall, full leather > full textile. And I know summer heat, I live in FL

n4t · June 13th, 2009, 09:51 AM

oh well if I'm correct some people were referring to not wearing gear as a "squid". And the whole too hot for gear too hot to ride, sorry I Would have to disagree, my bike is my only transportation I may be endangering myself but that's a risk I take. Like I said, if it's my time to go or better yet if I go down, then it was just meant to happen and if the outcome is good or bad I will have to deal with it then. Yea maybe I Could prevent how BAD the outcome is if it's not death but hey... again, a risk I take. I don't do things to put others at risk and in my opinion as long as I'm not putting you at risk I don't think y'all should have to worry about it

Also, my bro just showed me that ghost rider thing so it's new to me

Elfling · June 13th, 2009, 12:27 PM

Yeah, not wearing gear is the most common definition of being a squid (to me at least).

And by not wearing gear you *do* affect others than yourself. You affect your loved ones; you affect the health and insurance systems, the law enforcement agencies, the ER crews who respond to accidents. You affect the public perception of motorcycling as an instant death sentence. You affect how other riders perceive you as well; wearing gear gets you respect from the people who matter.

Verus Cidere · June 13th, 2009, 02:45 PM

Gear is a must in ANY situation. Hot or cold. It's hot here all the time, it's hot in Florida all the time, it's definitely hot in Hawaii all the time, but Becca, kKim, and I all wear gear when we ride period. It's being responsible over being comfortable. I prefer to give my family, my friends, and myself some peace of mind by letting them know that I'm doing everything in my power to stay alive. NOT doing wheelies on the highway is an example of this where ATGATT is another.

Back to the original purpose of your post, no squids were not the reason I got a bike. They were one of the reasons I had for NOT getting a bike, because I didn't want to be like them. I didn't want to go 100+ in rush hour traffic between cars doing a wheelie. I didn't want to be dead either. I have a friend who is an ER doctor, and he and his colleagues call motorcycles "donor-cycles" because they cause so many fatalities. To be honest though, it's not the motorcycles that cause the wrecks and the deaths, it's the idiot riders that decide a small amount of instant gratification in traffic is more important than their life or the lives around them. I'm constantly seeing so many riders, from sport bikes to cruisers to scooters, wearing t-shirts, flip flops and sunglasses instead of gear. What are they doing? Riding like idiots and almost dying on a regular basis. Insurance costs don't bother me, but the general opinion that motorcycles are deadly does. It's not my fault that my girlfriends dad won't let her ride around the block on the back of my bike. It's the squids fault because they were stupid and they died. They're also the reason that everyone thinks my parents are idiots for letting me get a bike. I was originally interested in bikes because of the motogp racers. They always wear full gear and they're always doing everything they can NOT to crash. They are the heroes of motorcycle riding and they make it look WAY better than any squid ever did.

The reason for our posts isn't to flame you, embarrass you, or call you an idiot (although it may seem that way). The idea is to try to keep you from killing yourself or others. It's also to try to keep new riders (as you have said love our humble 250r) from thinking that this is ok. It's definitely not, not because we don't want you to look cool or have recognition, but because it kills people. In a controlled environment, I could care less if you stunt naked. That's your choice and it doesn't endanger the lives of anyone else. The only people that would still be worried would be your family, but again, that's your choice. I prefer being hot and staying alive and not having roadrash and a smashed up bike.

I'm one of those people kKim was talking about earlier that will flame you a bit more. I'm a little less tactful as well and I have very strong feelings on this subject, but I'll get off my

now. Thanks for reading.

ScorpionNinja · June 13th, 2009, 08:12 PM

Hmmm, id like too add alil sumin'. Ok today this morning, after gearing up, to go too Sportbiketrackgear Store (here in Mi.) Im doing 20-25 MPH, down a street near my house, i see a Pontiac G6 (silver) coming towards me, but like 1 mile from me... as i was just having alil fun/pratice and whatnot, by leaning and swerving left to right afew times! I stopped doing that WELL within reason b4 the G6 was in any means in danger of us closing in. Then as im chilling at 25MPH, going striaght, minding my buznezzz, this TOOL in the G6 starts jerking his wheel, making his Car go left and Right... 300 ft' in front of me, AND STILL DOING SO as we pass!!! WTF?

Also he was going OVER the speed limit, id guess doing 40 MPH ish!

So my guess is that he thought i was a 'Squid' er, and feels im that TOOL that pops wheelies in traffic and such! Well im not, and it pissed me Off that he did what he did!!!

Another thing, i hate the Fact that... ppl in Cars and such, View us as ALWAYS TAKING OFF FAST AS HELL, etc! I dunno about you guys, but 95% of the time i take off from a red light, i short-shift 4-5k RPMs, and cruise... then suddenly, as im in 4th gear 35 MPH.... the Car behind me, gets PISSED im not FLYING, and then wisks Around me, stares at me and whatnot, then sometimes Cuts me Off! WTF?

I dont get it... but its CLEAR that ppl in Cars/Trucks, DONT have any RESPECT for us motorcyclist out there! period!

addy126 · June 13th, 2009, 08:34 PM

Been there, seen that and ignore it with a shake of the helmet as they go by lol... that bugz them when they spot it passing by and in their rearviews I'm sure. Its just a "caged squid" not worth a moment of my time lol

n4t · June 13th, 2009, 10:17 PM

Well I respect all of you for doing the right thing. My family doesn't really worry about the whole gear thing because I think they understand and they know I don't ride stupid though I think we all know accidents happen but that's the risk I take. I'm not one of those stupid riders doin wheelies and swerving in and out of traffic and all that crap. You can consider me a squid all you want for the whole gear thing I will just accept that

I respect every rider for who they are, not what they wear. I somewhat agree on the whole driving crazy thing there is a time and place for that and like it's been said over and over again on this thread, public streets isn't the place. Though I still enjoy watching the ghost rider vids

zartan · June 13th, 2009, 10:34 PM

N4T I agree with you, You can wear what you want. I wear what I want.
And you agree to be considerate on the roads .

I think you are not a squid.

I disagree with some of these posts,and I am a long time rider who wears
full gear.
It is nobodys place to tell you what to wear. Unless you are underage then listen to your folks. ( or your wife

)it really is not some forum strangers place to tell you how to dress.

As much as I am for ATGATT I do not think I should be a gear nazi and tell anyone what to wear.
But if I see someone acting like a jerk on the road.. well look out that is another story. I have seen people in full gear riding like jerks.
I would perfer to see everyone ATGATT but as of yet I am not QUEEN ...If I were there would be no sticky price tags on anything leaving their sticky goo on whatever you buy... nevermind..

CC Cowboy · June 14th, 2009, 05:43 AM

Who is a bigger squid, the guy with full gear and crashes from, whatever, or the guy with no gear and has never crashed because he is a safer rider? Safer meaning careful, experienced, intelligent, and defensive rider.

ScraitT · June 14th, 2009, 07:51 AM

99% of the time, I wear my gear, but there are the occasions that I don't. Sometimes if I'm going down for a cruise on the beach, I'll just wear my jacket because I want to be able to take in the air and enjoy it, and with a helmet on, you just don't get that experience, even with the visor up. Other times 'll pick up my gf and she gets the gear (though usually we head back to my place to get the rest of the stuff then).

So most of the time, I'm geared up, but there are occasions that it's nice to take the air in and relax a bit. The funniest part about it is that everyone I ride with rides Harleys and doesn't wear a single piece of gear ever, but I guarantee you 99% of bystanders see me as the dangerous irresponsible rider

kkim · June 14th, 2009, 10:29 AM

Dress for the crash, not the ride.

CC Cowboy · June 14th, 2009, 03:12 PM

Kelly, I believe that's dress for success (a succesful ride is not crashing).

backinthesaddleagain · June 14th, 2009, 07:22 PM

Last 2 deaths here were Harley riders. Neither wearing a helmet, both were single vehicles accidents with bike leaving road. The one before that was a sportbike rider running from the police through the city. Though police say there was no chase. Not sure if he had a helmet or not.

CC Cowboy · June 15th, 2009, 07:49 AM

Greg, thanks for the update. At least there are other rider besides the 250s that are crashing. If that is a good thing!

Oh, this was about helmets.

My buddy, Eddy, just bought his son, Emerson, a 250 from Gordon. If you need someone to go riding with they live in Slocum.

backinthesaddleagain · June 15th, 2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Greg, thanks for the update. At least there are other rider besides the 250s that are crashing. If that is a good thing!

Oh, this was about helmets.

My buddy, Eddy, just bought his son, Emerson, a 250 from Gordon. If you need someone to go riding with they live in Slocum.

CC - was that a Green S/E? I see it is now off the razee site.

CC Cowboy · June 15th, 2009, 09:49 AM

Yes, that's the one. Eddy rides a Ducati (from Gordon) and his son Emerson is getting the green 250 for his High School Graduation present. The son is a good kid. The dad is "off the wall" but a good guy. If you ride with both of them you'll be fine. Don't just ride with the dad, he rides a little faster than you might want to.

backinthesaddleagain · June 15th, 2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Yes, that's the one. Eddy rides a Ducati (from Gordon) and his son Emerson is getting the green 250 for his High School Graduation present. The son is a good kid. The dad is "off the wall" but a good guy. If you ride with both of them you'll be fine. Don't just ride with the dad, he rides a little faster than you might want to.

Thanks - I will kep an eye out. Nice graduation gift for sure.

kkim · June 15th, 2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

My buddy, Eddy, just bought his son, Emerson, a 250 from Gordon. If you need someone to go riding with they live in Slocum.

just curious... what's Eddy's last name?

CC Cowboy · June 15th, 2009, 12:39 PM

Bookbinder. Know him? I told his son to join the forum. I specifically told him if he needed any help to ask you.

kkim · June 15th, 2009, 12:45 PM

whew.. I thought you were going to say Lawson!

you know me... more than happy to help those that truly deserve to be helped.

hope his son takes your advice and joins us here at ninjette.

CC Cowboy · June 15th, 2009, 01:03 PM

Lawson is a CALI boy. I'm talking Rhode Island.

June 9th, 2009, 11:28 PM	#41
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	Pilot16= Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________

June 9th, 2009, 11:46 PM	#42
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	Firestarter that is classic!! Pro'bly enough material for a psych. term paper now with this posting on multiple forums. smart people= squid bad ,fire good!!! __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

June 10th, 2009, 10:06 PM	#43
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	ha. Yeah or we'll be seeing an article in the next sport rider Mag. lol __________________________________________________

June 12th, 2009, 11:56 AM	#54
ironglory ninjette.org member Name: Mhilz Location: Earth Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZZR600 Midnight Blue Posts: 114	Is there really a great lack of respect & consideration to others now-a-days or just ignorance? An MSF Course should be administered to them as part of their penalty if caught with a week long of isolation, musicals & classical music... Dont get me wrong, I too love classical & musicals & esp CALAMARI. Not generalizing them but for the most part, Squids dont go for them. __________________________________________________ A mind is like a parachute, open it up & enjoy the view.

June 12th, 2009, 02:50 PM	#56
ironglory ninjette.org member Name: Mhilz Location: Earth Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZZR600 Midnight Blue Posts: 114	That's another way too. hummm sushi, and have a yellow tail & uni..... I tried not to think of sushi but u have to mention it.... Now i have to go to NJ for this authentic all u can sushi for $20. Some where in Princeton. Maybe tomorrow.... I've been to some all u can eat but other asians are making it. Not that I dont like it, its not just authentic. Same as how other food tastes like chicken - well just give me chicken then. __________________________________________________ A mind is like a parachute, open it up & enjoy the view.

June 11th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#46
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	I see "squids" coming through the E.R. every weekend and Thurs bike nights.. they seem to get what they ride for... "death, neurological injuries, amputation, breaks, rashes and months of rehab plus the bills".. yeah that's what squiding is all about.... rock and roll squids! I won't even go into the collateral damage that ensues around them.... what a waste

June 11th, 2009, 01:16 PM	#47
djindia23 Ride or Die Ninja Name: Kichu Location: New Jersey Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue Ninja 250R (the fastest color) Posts: 90	well im not gonna lie... i ride somewhat aggressively on my 250... and by aggressive i mean weaving in and out of traffic.... here in jersey some of these drivers are doing 50 when the speed limit is 55.... and thats fine and dandy when you're not in leftmost lane... soo i will go around them or weave all the way to the right to pass people... soo if that constitutes me being a squid then so be it... i doo agree however that these fools we see poppin wheelies on major highways have to consider what they are doing a bit more soo to me those are the real squids... i dont think weaving in and out of traffic is as bad... but i guess im a lil biased...

June 11th, 2009, 06:57 PM	#49
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	lol

June 11th, 2009, 10:17 PM	#51
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	to you Alex

June 12th, 2009, 11:39 AM	#52
cwb48 Mature motorcyclist Name: Chris Location: Sykesville, MD Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, blue Posts: 126	Car traffic + motorcycle = trouble. If you spend a lot of time riding in car traffic, you will eventually get hit by a car- I hate to say it, but it's almost inevitable. It happened to me many years ago- teenage female driver changing lanes without looking, no signal, the whole deal. If you want to avoid the (almost) inevitable, find places to ride with little (car) traffic. If you do choose to ride in automobile traffic, you will need all of your defensive driving strategies and constant vigilance- and weaving in and out of car traffic is definitely not a defensive technique. I personally think that motorcycle commuting is something you should not consider until you have a few years of riding experience. Chris

June 12th, 2009, 10:46 PM	#58
n4t ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Macon, GA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 78	Well I guess I'm a squid. I'm sorry but when it gets 100F down here I won't be caught dead(literally) in my hot ass leather icon jacket. Thought don't get me wrong I wear it when I know I won't have a heat stroke at the redlight. I ride in tshirt, helmet, gloves, jeans, and boots. That's just me, I don't go around encouraging others to do it but I also believe that there is a time for everything and if it's my time to go then I shall go, getting a motorcycle ain't gonna slow that down in God's eyes. I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for this but I respect this guy on what he's saying. Yea, they might be idiots out there doing all of that but hey, I have to say it IS interesting to watch though that isn't what encouraged me to start riding and yes I am saying "What an idiot" in my head. Also, I'm sorry but I'll have to say this is pretty fun to watch. http://www.ghostridermovie.net/start.html ^^^ this guy has never wrecked (that I know of) and has never been caught by the cops... lucky guy I'd have to say. And did you ever think they might be doing it for the rush/adrenalin? Because I know this guy has a LOT of it lol. and I would LOVE to have that full carbon fiber GSXR 1000 __________________________________________________

June 13th, 2009, 01:29 AM	#59
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	This isn't about not wearing gear. It is about being stupid when riding. You have a choice to wear gear. The risk is to yourself and totally your decision. that does not make you a squid. Squids are people who do stupid things to endanger others. Ghostrider is a tool. Why are we even going on with this??? I will even toss a bunny cake in. __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

June 13th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#61
n4t ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Macon, GA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 78	oh well if I'm correct some people were referring to not wearing gear as a "squid". And the whole too hot for gear too hot to ride, sorry I Would have to disagree, my bike is my only transportation I may be endangering myself but that's a risk I take. Like I said, if it's my time to go or better yet if I go down, then it was just meant to happen and if the outcome is good or bad I will have to deal with it then. Yea maybe I Could prevent how BAD the outcome is if it's not death but hey... again, a risk I take. I don't do things to put others at risk and in my opinion as long as I'm not putting you at risk I don't think y'all should have to worry about it Also, my bro just showed me that ghost rider thing so it's new to me __________________________________________________

June 13th, 2009, 12:27 PM	#62
Elfling ninjette.org guru Name: Becca Location: Clearwater, FL Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 03 Ninja 250, 02 CBR600 f4i Posts: 253	Yeah, not wearing gear is the most common definition of being a squid (to me at least). And by not wearing gear you do affect others than yourself. You affect your loved ones; you affect the health and insurance systems, the law enforcement agencies, the ER crews who respond to accidents. You affect the public perception of motorcycling as an instant death sentence. You affect how other riders perceive you as well; wearing gear gets you respect from the people who matter.

June 13th, 2009, 02:45 PM	#63
Verus Cidere ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Michael Location: Southern NM Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '91 Honda CBR600 F2 Posts: A lot.	Gear is a must in ANY situation. Hot or cold. It's hot here all the time, it's hot in Florida all the time, it's definitely hot in Hawaii all the time, but Becca, kKim, and I all wear gear when we ride period. It's being responsible over being comfortable. I prefer to give my family, my friends, and myself some peace of mind by letting them know that I'm doing everything in my power to stay alive. NOT doing wheelies on the highway is an example of this where ATGATT is another. Back to the original purpose of your post, no squids were not the reason I got a bike. They were one of the reasons I had for NOT getting a bike, because I didn't want to be like them. I didn't want to go 100+ in rush hour traffic between cars doing a wheelie. I didn't want to be dead either. I have a friend who is an ER doctor, and he and his colleagues call motorcycles "donor-cycles" because they cause so many fatalities. To be honest though, it's not the motorcycles that cause the wrecks and the deaths, it's the idiot riders that decide a small amount of instant gratification in traffic is more important than their life or the lives around them. I'm constantly seeing so many riders, from sport bikes to cruisers to scooters, wearing t-shirts, flip flops and sunglasses instead of gear. What are they doing? Riding like idiots and almost dying on a regular basis. Insurance costs don't bother me, but the general opinion that motorcycles are deadly does. It's not my fault that my girlfriends dad won't let her ride around the block on the back of my bike. It's the squids fault because they were stupid and they died. They're also the reason that everyone thinks my parents are idiots for letting me get a bike. I was originally interested in bikes because of the motogp racers. They always wear full gear and they're always doing everything they can NOT to crash. They are the heroes of motorcycle riding and they make it look WAY better than any squid ever did. The reason for our posts isn't to flame you, embarrass you, or call you an idiot (although it may seem that way). The idea is to try to keep you from killing yourself or others. It's also to try to keep new riders (as you have said love our humble 250r) from thinking that this is ok. It's definitely not, not because we don't want you to look cool or have recognition, but because it kills people. In a controlled environment, I could care less if you stunt naked. That's your choice and it doesn't endanger the lives of anyone else. The only people that would still be worried would be your family, but again, that's your choice. I prefer being hot and staying alive and not having roadrash and a smashed up bike. I'm one of those people kKim was talking about earlier that will flame you a bit more. I'm a little less tactful as well and I have very strong feelings on this subject, but I'll get off my now. Thanks for reading. __________________________________________________ 1991 Honda CBR600 F2, White/Gray, D&D slip-on exhaust, tail integrator, gel grips, Custom undertail.

June 13th, 2009, 08:12 PM	#64
ScorpionNinja ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Dave Location: Michigan Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650RTE & 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (SOLD) Posts: A lot.	Hmmm, id like too add alil sumin'. Ok today this morning, after gearing up, to go too Sportbiketrackgear Store (here in Mi.) Im doing 20-25 MPH, down a street near my house, i see a Pontiac G6 (silver) coming towards me, but like 1 mile from me... as i was just having alil fun/pratice and whatnot, by leaning and swerving left to right afew times! I stopped doing that WELL within reason b4 the G6 was in any means in danger of us closing in. Then as im chilling at 25MPH, going striaght, minding my buznezzz, this TOOL in the G6 starts jerking his wheel, making his Car go left and Right... 300 ft' in front of me, AND STILL DOING SO as we pass!!! WTF? Also he was going OVER the speed limit, id guess doing 40 MPH ish! So my guess is that he thought i was a 'Squid' er, and feels im that TOOL that pops wheelies in traffic and such! Well im not, and it pissed me Off that he did what he did!!! Another thing, i hate the Fact that... ppl in Cars and such, View us as ALWAYS TAKING OFF FAST AS HELL, etc! I dunno about you guys, but 95% of the time i take off from a red light, i short-shift 4-5k RPMs, and cruise... then suddenly, as im in 4th gear 35 MPH.... the Car behind me, gets PISSED im not FLYING, and then wisks Around me, stares at me and whatnot, then sometimes Cuts me Off! WTF? I dont get it... but its CLEAR that ppl in Cars/Trucks, DONT have any RESPECT for us motorcyclist out there! period!

June 13th, 2009, 08:34 PM	#65
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	Been there, seen that and ignore it with a shake of the helmet as they go by lol... that bugz them when they spot it passing by and in their rearviews I'm sure. Its just a "caged squid" not worth a moment of my time lol

June 13th, 2009, 10:17 PM	#66
n4t ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Macon, GA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 78	Well I respect all of you for doing the right thing. My family doesn't really worry about the whole gear thing because I think they understand and they know I don't ride stupid though I think we all know accidents happen but that's the risk I take. I'm not one of those stupid riders doin wheelies and swerving in and out of traffic and all that crap. You can consider me a squid all you want for the whole gear thing I will just accept that I respect every rider for who they are, not what they wear. I somewhat agree on the whole driving crazy thing there is a time and place for that and like it's been said over and over again on this thread, public streets isn't the place. Though I still enjoy watching the ghost rider vids __________________________________________________

June 13th, 2009, 10:34 PM	#67
zartan ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: zartan Location: spam la Join Date: Oct 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250 R Posts: A lot.	N4T I agree with you, You can wear what you want. I wear what I want. And you agree to be considerate on the roads . I think you are not a squid. I disagree with some of these posts,and I am a long time rider who wears full gear. It is nobodys place to tell you what to wear. Unless you are underage then listen to your folks. ( or your wife )it really is not some forum strangers place to tell you how to dress. As much as I am for ATGATT I do not think I should be a gear nazi and tell anyone what to wear. But if I see someone acting like a jerk on the road.. well look out that is another story. I have seen people in full gear riding like jerks. I would perfer to see everyone ATGATT but as of yet I am not QUEEN ...If I were there would be no sticky price tags on anything leaving their sticky goo on whatever you buy... nevermind.. __________________________________________________ "Don't let adverse facts stand in the way of a good decision" Colin Powell

June 14th, 2009, 05:43 AM	#68
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Who is a bigger squid, the guy with full gear and crashes from, whatever, or the guy with no gear and has never crashed because he is a safer rider? Safer meaning careful, experienced, intelligent, and defensive rider. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

June 14th, 2009, 07:51 AM	#69
ScraitT Green! Name: Tyler Location: S. Florida Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R, 04 Honda CRF230F, 94 Honda XR80R Posts: 505	99% of the time, I wear my gear, but there are the occasions that I don't. Sometimes if I'm going down for a cruise on the beach, I'll just wear my jacket because I want to be able to take in the air and enjoy it, and with a helmet on, you just don't get that experience, even with the visor up. Other times 'll pick up my gf and she gets the gear (though usually we head back to my place to get the rest of the stuff then). So most of the time, I'm geared up, but there are occasions that it's nice to take the air in and relax a bit. The funniest part about it is that everyone I ride with rides Harleys and doesn't wear a single piece of gear ever, but I guarantee you 99% of bystanders see me as the dangerous irresponsible rider __________________________________________________ 2008 Green 250R

June 14th, 2009, 10:29 AM	#70
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Dress for the crash, not the ride.

June 14th, 2009, 03:12 PM	#71
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Kelly, I believe that's dress for success (a succesful ride is not crashing). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

June 14th, 2009, 07:22 PM	#72
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	Last 2 deaths here were Harley riders. Neither wearing a helmet, both were single vehicles accidents with bike leaving road. The one before that was a sportbike rider running from the police through the city. Though police say there was no chase. Not sure if he had a helmet or not.

June 15th, 2009, 07:49 AM	#73
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Greg, thanks for the update. At least there are other rider besides the 250s that are crashing. If that is a good thing! Oh, this was about helmets. My buddy, Eddy, just bought his son, Emerson, a 250 from Gordon. If you need someone to go riding with they live in Slocum. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

June 15th, 2009, 09:49 AM	#75
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Yes, that's the one. Eddy rides a Ducati (from Gordon) and his son Emerson is getting the green 250 for his High School Graduation present. The son is a good kid. The dad is "off the wall" but a good guy. If you ride with both of them you'll be fine. Don't just ride with the dad, he rides a little faster than you might want to. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

June 15th, 2009, 12:39 PM	#78
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Bookbinder. Know him? I told his son to join the forum. I specifically told him if he needed any help to ask you. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

June 15th, 2009, 12:45 PM	#79
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	whew.. I thought you were going to say Lawson! you know me... more than happy to help those that truly deserve to be helped. hope his son takes your advice and joins us here at ninjette.

June 15th, 2009, 01:03 PM	#80
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Lawson is a CALI boy. I'm talking Rhode Island. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

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