Riding 2 up....2 dudes.... - Page 2

Angel-be-Good · July 9th, 2009, 09:28 PM

I gave a (dude) coworker a ride to the office once. It was maybe slightly awkward but I wouldn't object to future short rides. A day ride would be much for me, though.

kkim · July 9th, 2009, 09:30 PM

Well, Ryan, you are in San Fransisco... shouldn't raise any eyebrows at all.

Nickds7 · July 9th, 2009, 09:57 PM

lol... I dont know if I would do it. Once I asked to ride of the back of another bike with a guy on it just to see what it was like not the one driving... I stayed as far back as possible so it wasn't a big deal. Not that homophobic to never, ever do it...but I wouldn't just offer or accept a request to ride on the back....

tjkamper · July 10th, 2009, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayanlam

sounds like everyone's a tad homophobic, lol

i rarely ride 2 up with another guy, and as some others have mentioned, its only when they are stuck without a ride. the only guy ive taken on the 250r so far has been my little brother (well younger, but hes taller than me

) who isn't allowed on the free way yet, so my gf drove his scooter, and i took him on my bike to the cinemas when we got to the freeway, rofl...

the reason for not really wanting another guy on the back of my bike is mainly cos they usually weigh more than my GF, and its a little awkward, since i don't really want them to hug me the way my gf does, he he...

but to be honest, it doesn't really phase me if its my gf, another girl, brother, or a guy, whoever hops on, as long as they are wearing a helmet, and don't squirm around is welcome for a ride!

if you grow up here where motorbikes are the main means of transportation, and you get whole families (up to 5 people, 2 parents and 3 kids) on a scooter, or 2 ~ 3 guys squeezing onto bikes cos they only have 1 bike, and cant afford a cab, well its just normal every day life here. in the end it comes down to society, and how we view, or think others view ourselves in public.

peace

Amen

Cali619 · July 10th, 2009, 05:40 AM

omg funny ass video

RMLegacy · July 10th, 2009, 06:25 AM

I am OK with giving a friend a ride, as long as they know how to ride on the back.

Here is a friends opinion on the subject:

Always ride hole to hole, never pole to hole.

It does sum it up pretty well.

SteveL · July 10th, 2009, 06:29 AM

40 + years ago we never gave it a thought carrying a friend on the back Saturday and Sunday evenings a lot of guys would meet up at Lil’s cafe near Wigan Lancashire it was a bit like this Forum only face to face technical talk general info etc. There was a period when one friend had no bike so I would pick him up and take him along to Lil’s that was on a 600cc Aerial which is a little more useful than a 250 for carrying passengers. Before I had a bike a friend would pick me up and we would share the fuel costs of going to collage. As for hanging on, it’s not necessary if you have a bike that’s big enough for two and the rider is not trying to race every one on the road.
I have never met a GAY biker it’s maybe an American thing.

Steve

scorpio_vette · July 10th, 2009, 06:37 AM

personally i think the biggest issues is the childishness of americans and their thinking. look at it as a seat arrangement rather than placement.

you don't have a problem with your friend riding in the passenger seat of your car do you??? well how is the passenger seat of your bike any different???

i have personally given a friend a ride when i was starting to teach him the basics of riding. but yes i have to admit that when it comes up, something in the back of your head starts to yell "don't do it. people are going to point and laugh". and that's actualy pretty pathetic.

i bet those 3 or 4 guys hugging each other in bob sled racing don't have a problem being called gay. cuz they make more money hugging each other for a minute, then we do busting our butts at work. LOL

just don't sniff my neck. (like duddley did in wildhogs. LOL)

tjkamper · July 10th, 2009, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveL

40 + years ago we never gave it a thought carrying a friend on the back Saturday and Sunday evenings a lot of guys would meet up at Lil’s cafe near Wigan Lancashire it was a bit like this Forum only face to face technical talk general info etc. There was a period when one friend had no bike so I would pick him up and take him along to Lil’s that was on a 600cc Aerial which is a little more useful than a 250 for carrying passengers. Before I had a bike a friend would pick me up and we would share the fuel costs of going to collage. As for hanging on, it’s not necessary if you have a bike that’s big enough for two and the rider is not trying to race every one on the road.
I have never met a GAY biker it’s maybe an American thing.

Steve

I have a coworker who rides everyday rain or shine and he is homosexual.

camaroz1985 · July 10th, 2009, 07:09 AM

I gave a friend a ride once to pick up his bike. Also gave a friend a ride one time just because he never was on a bike and wanted to see what its like. I don't see the big deal with it. I wouldn't go for a long ride or anything, but something short or just to get someone somewhere they need to go I have no problem with.

You guys seem kind of insecure.

ally99 · July 10th, 2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpio_vette

but yes i have to admit that when it comes up, something in the back of your head starts to yell "don't do it. people are going to point and laugh".

Ok man, sorry...not picking on you here, but I LOVED this line...and yes, I imagine, if it "comes up", people will probably point and laugh...hopefully it "stays down". lol!

Snake · July 10th, 2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ally99

Ok man, sorry...not picking on you here, but I LOVED this line...and yes, I imagine, if it "comes up", people will probably point and laugh...hopefully it "stays down". lol!

Women you can hide your "excitement" with us men it is just there for all the world to see.

SpyderGirl · July 10th, 2009, 08:44 AM

On the Ninja... no one rides with me.... male or female... I'm not comfortable with passengers. On the Spyder the husband and I switch back and forth on a regular basis. Neither of us have an issue with this even though he's been teased on more than one ocassion.

Cali619 · July 10th, 2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ally99

Ok man, sorry...not picking on you here, but I LOVED this line...and yes, I imagine, if it "comes up", people will probably point and laugh...hopefully it "stays down". lol!

haha you dirty dirty thoughts girl :P

Cali619 · July 10th, 2009, 09:26 AM

so far from responses I see its mainly accepted but not generally an ideal thing for 2 guys on a bike. I dont think anyone has anything against it , its just more common in certain regions that others. But here in San Diego its not so common cause a car is the main mode of transportation, and someone that has a motorcycle most likely has a car as well. I dont think its a couple gay men on a bike when I see it here , I just tend to laugh though cause all the jokes you can make about it. Im used to hanging around people with a sick sense of humor and tough skin for it so its all just fun if I ever see something like 2 dudes on a bike.

Link to original page on YouTube.

scorpio_vette · July 10th, 2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ally99

Ok man, sorry...not picking on you here, but I LOVED this line...and yes, I imagine, if it "comes up", people will probably point and laugh...hopefully it "stays down". lol!

aaww daumn...........ok ok. i walked into that one. LOL

Snake · July 10th, 2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sound Wave

uh oh.... i think it is time to post the video again.

Link to original page on YouTube.

gary that was a hilarious video!

ally99 · July 10th, 2009, 12:54 PM

ROFL! That video was hilarious! :-)

capt_bugaloo · July 10th, 2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpio_vette

you don't have a problem with your friend riding in the passenger seat of your car do you??? well how is the passenger seat of your bike any different???

Um, well, for one thing, your friend's Johnson isn't pressing against your arse.

scorpio_vette · July 10th, 2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_bugaloo

Um, well, for one thing, your friend's Johnson isn't pressing against your arse.

weird. i've never had that problem. then again i wear pants when i'm on my bike.

don't you get tickets for riding your bike naked??? and doesn't it hurt getting a sun burn on your wang???

capt_bugaloo · July 10th, 2009, 07:30 PM

Even pants ain't enough. I do not want anyone's panted or unpanted Johnson near my arse, even if I'm wearing steel plated armour.

headshrink · July 10th, 2009, 08:46 PM

I guess its OK if you have no other option, but not just for fun..... and absolutely NO reach-arounds!

scorpio_vette · July 10th, 2009, 08:50 PM

so why exactly are americans so insecure in their manhood??? is that thought to the kids by their parents, or is it a american thing???

i'm german, and we grow up surrounded with sexuality. i'm not gay, but i'm also no homophobic.

headshrink · July 10th, 2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_vette

so why exactly are americans so insecure in their manhood??? is that thought to the kids by their parents, or is it a american thing???

i'm german, and we grow up surrounded with sexuality. i'm not gay, but i'm also no homophobic.

I hear German's love David Haselhoff. Is that true?

nate-bama · July 10th, 2009, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveL

40 + years ago we never gave it a thought carrying a friend on the back Saturday and Sunday evenings a lot of guys would meet up at Lil’s cafe near Wigan Lancashire it was a bit like this Forum only face to face technical talk general info etc. There was a period when one friend had no bike so I would pick him up and take him along to Lil’s that was on a 600cc Aerial which is a little more useful than a 250 for carrying passengers. Before I had a bike a friend would pick me up and we would share the fuel costs of going to collage. As for hanging on, it’s not necessary if you have a bike that’s big enough for two and the rider is not trying to race every one on the road.
I have never met a GAY biker it’s maybe an American thing.

Steve

well they exist...the queens next door ride a goldwing

nate-bama · July 10th, 2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_vette

so why exactly are americans so insecure in their manhood??? is that thought to the kids by their parents, or is it a american thing???

i'm german, and we grow up surrounded with sexuality. i'm not gay, but i'm also no homophobic.

why exactly do germans enjoy defecating on each other??? is that a family thing too? Or is it simply a kraut thing?????????????????????????????????

headshrink · July 10th, 2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_vette

so why exactly are americans so insecure in their manhood??? is that thought to the kids by their parents, or is it a american thing???

i'm german, and we grow up surrounded with sexuality. i'm not gay, but i'm also no homophobic.

In all seriousness, I spent my early elementary school years in Germany, and all that German sexuality was a bit confussing.... exciting, but that is another story. IMO they sexualize kids WAY too early, or at least kids from cultures that start with other messages about modesty and sexuality.

nate-bama · July 10th, 2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

In all seriousness, I spent my early elementary school years in Germany, and all that German sexuality was a bit confussing.... exciting, but that is another story. IMO they sexualize kids WAY too early, or at least kids from cultures that start with other messages about modesty and sexuality.

bob, I also spent my younger years in germany and yes i believe they try to sexualize the young systematically..ahem perhaps a german thing

headshrink · July 10th, 2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nate-bama

bob, I also spent my younger years in Germany and yes i believe they try to sexualize the young systematically..ahem perhaps a German thing

And did I ever tell the story about second grade (in a German school) were my FEMALE teacher was "supervising" the BOYS in the shower room (Germans are big on showering before entering the pool) and making sure we all got NAKED and washed all our "bits?" I honestly believe she meant no harm and this was "normalish" for their culture, BUT the little humiliated American kid felt like he had been molested

. Parents pulled me out weeks later and spent the rest of my time in an American DOD school, where we all kept our pants on.

...and that is only one of my sexy German experiences.

n4t · July 10th, 2009, 09:29 PM

This thread is just too damn funny

scorpio_vette · July 10th, 2009, 10:34 PM

headshrink:..................NO not all Germans like hasselhoff. i don't.

nate-bama:................NOT all Germans defecate on each other. actually i personally don't know any that do. i thought that was more of an Asian thing. LOL

headshrink:...................it's not that germans sexualize the kids way to early. it's natural, and that's how we are born. plus look at it from this point of view. we grow up and are thought about the human body and sex. it's normal and open, so it's not such an exciting "taboo" as to americans. we aren't as urged by "the forbidden" that we have to go explore it. where americans are always told it's wrong, evil and to stay away from it. remember what happened when your parents told you that the stove was hot and you shouldn't touch it??? what did you do??? my point exactly. now in germany violence on tv is VERY VERY strictly regulated, and video games are even harder regulated. personally i look at it this way. you guys blame tv for turning your kids as violent as they are today. but you don't regulate it even though you bitch about it. on the other hand, who has ever been hurt by watching a boob or full nudity on tv???

and the bit about the teacher in the shower/locker room.......................uumm..........yeah..........so what's wrong with that??? this thread started because somebody was worried about a wang being separated from his azz with 2 layers of riding pants, jeans and boxers, but now you are bitching because you have a female in the locker room??? man you guys are freaking confusing??? so it's not ok to have a guy on the back seat with his clothes on, but you want a guy staring at your wang in the shower??? and they call us Germans weird. LOL

and no we DO NOT like our beer warm. we like it just as cold as anybody else. but when there is no ice or fridge available, then we'd rather have a warm beer over no beer.

addy126 · July 10th, 2009, 10:44 PM

Those that doth protest to much about "gear near the rear"... are probably more curious than they 'd like to admit

P1NDLESK1N · July 10th, 2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by addy126

Those that doth protest to much about "gear near the rear"... are probably more curious than they 'd like to admit

As I enjoy telling my homophobic friends, "Hey, butts are butts."

addy126 · July 10th, 2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P1NDLESK1N

As I enjoy telling my homophobic friends, "Hey, butts are butts."

lol

headshrink · July 10th, 2009, 10:58 PM

Seriously now - anyone want to back me up on this.... is it OK to force a 7 or 8 year old to strip naked at school (yes - force, I tried to resist)? I know my kids would screem bloody murder and the police would be involved within the hour if anything like this ever happen to them. I gave her the benifit of the doubt because it is her culture and she doesn't know any better.... but the consequences were very similar to a molestation trauma. You don't make other peoples kids get naked!!!! At school no less!!! She would have been arrested here.... probably back then too, but hopefully she would know better.

And then that slippery slope about nudity on TV... there may be something to the "forbidden" allure, but what about that "Sex house" right on the Marianplatz (early 80s)? A nude body isn't shameful, but modesty people, seriously..... there is a difference between an adult mind and a very impressionable developing mind of a child.

Oddly enough, years later this all would become the area of focus for my practice... or maybe not so odd.

addy126 · July 10th, 2009, 11:23 PM

hmmmmm this is a serious divergence from "2 guys on a bike" to "minors being strip searched".... shouldn't that be a different website under another kind of thread???

scorpio_vette · July 11th, 2009, 06:16 AM

hey nobody said anything about stripped searched. don't take it to far out of context.

and headshrink...............sorry bout your experience, but i know that "generally" you weren't forced to. i knew 1 kid that took his showers with swimshorts on.

but i suppose how i could see that if you are raised that nudity and stuff is so wrong and taboo that going to a country where that's normal is kinda weird and offsetting. but then again they do it in the states too. soldiers have NO privacy at all

headshrink · July 11th, 2009, 06:59 AM

Thanks scorpio. I actually was in swim shorts, until told to take them off. Nudity in the context public same-sex showers isn't actually considered too weird or taboo here (depending on the setting), but you would never force it on anyone, and there would NEVER be an opposite-sex teacher in the shower. Had that happened here today, they would loose their job, be investigated for child abuse, and likely be sued (along with the school) by the parents. But if I went to a health spa today and got naked in the men's shower, no one would think twice about it..... but few people usually do it anyways. You don't mess with Americans' kids.

Anyways, we don't need to argue about it, I think we probably are close enough to seeing each other's sides.

addy126 · July 11th, 2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_vette

hey nobody said anything about stripped searched. don't take it to far out of context.

This entire thread is completely out of context to the nature of actual "motorcycling".. 2up is 2up regardless of the gender

and now the introduction of "forceable stripping of children".... shame shame... I don't think there is a place for that in here, that again is another website or a completely different form of blogging.

Purspeed · July 11th, 2009, 11:13 AM

...this thread has taken a turn for the surreal.

July 9th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#41
Angel-be-Good ninjette.org guru Name: Ryan Location: San Francisco Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, '11 Street Triple R Posts: 337	I gave a (dude) coworker a ride to the office once. It was maybe slightly awkward but I wouldn't object to future short rides. A day ride would be much for me, though. __________________________________________________ The Sunday Best \| Current mileage: 50,000

July 10th, 2009, 05:40 AM	#45
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July 10th, 2009, 06:29 AM	#47
SteveL old git Name: Steve Location: Geneve Switzerland Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): BMW K1300S Posts: 479	40 + years ago we never gave it a thought carrying a friend on the back Saturday and Sunday evenings a lot of guys would meet up at Lil’s cafe near Wigan Lancashire it was a bit like this Forum only face to face technical talk general info etc. There was a period when one friend had no bike so I would pick him up and take him along to Lil’s that was on a 600cc Aerial which is a little more useful than a 250 for carrying passengers. Before I had a bike a friend would pick me up and we would share the fuel costs of going to collage. As for hanging on, it’s not necessary if you have a bike that’s big enough for two and the rider is not trying to race every one on the road. I have never met a GAY biker it’s maybe an American thing. Steve __________________________________________________ Some mistakes are too much fun to make only once.

July 10th, 2009, 06:37 AM	#48
scorpio_vette ninjette.org member Name: scorpio Location: milwaukee WI Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250 Posts: 78	personally i think the biggest issues is the childishness of americans and their thinking. look at it as a seat arrangement rather than placement. you don't have a problem with your friend riding in the passenger seat of your car do you??? well how is the passenger seat of your bike any different??? i have personally given a friend a ride when i was starting to teach him the basics of riding. but yes i have to admit that when it comes up, something in the back of your head starts to yell "don't do it. people are going to point and laugh". and that's actualy pretty pathetic. i bet those 3 or 4 guys hugging each other in bob sled racing don't have a problem being called gay. cuz they make more money hugging each other for a minute, then we do busting our butts at work. LOL just don't sniff my neck. (like duddley did in wildhogs. LOL) __________________________________________________ Been there, Wrecked that.

July 10th, 2009, 08:44 AM	#53
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July 9th, 2009, 09:30 PM	#42
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Well, Ryan, you are in San Fransisco... shouldn't raise any eyebrows at all.

July 9th, 2009, 09:57 PM	#43
Nickds7 ninjette.org guru Name: Nick Location: Sacramento, California. Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r Posts: 379	lol... I dont know if I would do it. Once I asked to ride of the back of another bike with a guy on it just to see what it was like not the one driving... I stayed as far back as possible so it wasn't a big deal. Not that homophobic to never, ever do it...but I wouldn't just offer or accept a request to ride on the back....

July 10th, 2009, 06:25 AM	#46
RMLegacy ninjette.org member Name: Dan Location: CO Join Date: Sep 2008 Motorcycle(s): 07 250R Posts: 19	I am OK with giving a friend a ride, as long as they know how to ride on the back. Here is a friends opinion on the subject: Always ride hole to hole, never pole to hole. It does sum it up pretty well.

July 10th, 2009, 07:09 AM	#50
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I gave a friend a ride once to pick up his bike. Also gave a friend a ride one time just because he never was on a bike and wanted to see what its like. I don't see the big deal with it. I wouldn't go for a long ride or anything, but something short or just to get someone somewhere they need to go I have no problem with. You guys seem kind of insecure.

July 10th, 2009, 09:26 AM	#55
Cali619 Giggity Giggity Name: Ryam Location: San Diego Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250R aka Hiryu Posts: 481	so far from responses I see its mainly accepted but not generally an ideal thing for 2 guys on a bike. I dont think anyone has anything against it , its just more common in certain regions that others. But here in San Diego its not so common cause a car is the main mode of transportation, and someone that has a motorcycle most likely has a car as well. I dont think its a couple gay men on a bike when I see it here , I just tend to laugh though cause all the jokes you can make about it. Im used to hanging around people with a sick sense of humor and tough skin for it so its all just fun if I ever see something like 2 dudes on a bike. Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ Facebook DY Fender chop, Danmoto CB slip-on w/baffle, Airbox removed, Kleen-air removed, shimmed needles, Mikuni #117.5 Main jets, K&N RU-1822 air filter pods

July 10th, 2009, 12:54 PM	#58
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July 10th, 2009, 07:30 PM	#61
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	Even pants ain't enough. I do not want anyone's panted or unpanted Johnson near my arse, even if I'm wearing steel plated armour. __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

July 10th, 2009, 08:46 PM	#62
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I guess its OK if you have no other option, but not just for fun..... and absolutely NO reach-arounds!

July 10th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#63
scorpio_vette ninjette.org member Name: scorpio Location: milwaukee WI Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250 Posts: 78	so why exactly are americans so insecure in their manhood??? is that thought to the kids by their parents, or is it a american thing??? i'm german, and we grow up surrounded with sexuality. i'm not gay, but i'm also no homophobic. __________________________________________________ Been there, Wrecked that.

July 10th, 2009, 09:29 PM	#70
n4t ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Macon, GA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 78	This thread is just too damn funny __________________________________________________

July 10th, 2009, 10:34 PM	#71
scorpio_vette ninjette.org member Name: scorpio Location: milwaukee WI Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250 Posts: 78	headshrink:..................NO not all Germans like hasselhoff. i don't. nate-bama:................NOT all Germans defecate on each other. actually i personally don't know any that do. i thought that was more of an Asian thing. LOL headshrink:...................it's not that germans sexualize the kids way to early. it's natural, and that's how we are born. plus look at it from this point of view. we grow up and are thought about the human body and sex. it's normal and open, so it's not such an exciting "taboo" as to americans. we aren't as urged by "the forbidden" that we have to go explore it. where americans are always told it's wrong, evil and to stay away from it. remember what happened when your parents told you that the stove was hot and you shouldn't touch it??? what did you do??? my point exactly. now in germany violence on tv is VERY VERY strictly regulated, and video games are even harder regulated. personally i look at it this way. you guys blame tv for turning your kids as violent as they are today. but you don't regulate it even though you bitch about it. on the other hand, who has ever been hurt by watching a boob or full nudity on tv??? and the bit about the teacher in the shower/locker room.......................uumm..........yeah..........so what's wrong with that??? this thread started because somebody was worried about a wang being separated from his azz with 2 layers of riding pants, jeans and boxers, but now you are bitching because you have a female in the locker room??? man you guys are freaking confusing??? so it's not ok to have a guy on the back seat with his clothes on, but you want a guy staring at your wang in the shower??? and they call us Germans weird. LOL and no we DO NOT like our beer warm. we like it just as cold as anybody else. but when there is no ice or fridge available, then we'd rather have a warm beer over no beer. __________________________________________________ Been there, Wrecked that.

July 10th, 2009, 10:44 PM	#72
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	Those that doth protest to much about "gear near the rear"... are probably more curious than they 'd like to admit

July 10th, 2009, 10:58 PM	#75
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Seriously now - anyone want to back me up on this.... is it OK to force a 7 or 8 year old to strip naked at school (yes - force, I tried to resist)? I know my kids would screem bloody murder and the police would be involved within the hour if anything like this ever happen to them. I gave her the benifit of the doubt because it is her culture and she doesn't know any better.... but the consequences were very similar to a molestation trauma. You don't make other peoples kids get naked!!!! At school no less!!! She would have been arrested here.... probably back then too, but hopefully she would know better. And then that slippery slope about nudity on TV... there may be something to the "forbidden" allure, but what about that "Sex house" right on the Marianplatz (early 80s)? A nude body isn't shameful, but modesty people, seriously..... there is a difference between an adult mind and a very impressionable developing mind of a child. Oddly enough, years later this all would become the area of focus for my practice... or maybe not so odd.

July 10th, 2009, 11:23 PM	#76
addy126 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: addy126 Location: Tx Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki N-250 + '09 Vulcan 900 Classic Lt Posts: A lot.	hmmmmm this is a serious divergence from "2 guys on a bike" to "minors being strip searched".... shouldn't that be a different website under another kind of thread???

July 11th, 2009, 06:16 AM	#77
scorpio_vette ninjette.org member Name: scorpio Location: milwaukee WI Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250 Posts: 78	hey nobody said anything about stripped searched. don't take it to far out of context. and headshrink...............sorry bout your experience, but i know that "generally" you weren't forced to. i knew 1 kid that took his showers with swimshorts on. but i suppose how i could see that if you are raised that nudity and stuff is so wrong and taboo that going to a country where that's normal is kinda weird and offsetting. but then again they do it in the states too. soldiers have NO privacy at all __________________________________________________ Been there, Wrecked that.

July 11th, 2009, 06:59 AM	#78
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Thanks scorpio. I actually was in swim shorts, until told to take them off. Nudity in the context public same-sex showers isn't actually considered too weird or taboo here (depending on the setting), but you would never force it on anyone, and there would NEVER be an opposite-sex teacher in the shower. Had that happened here today, they would loose their job, be investigated for child abuse, and likely be sued (along with the school) by the parents. But if I went to a health spa today and got naked in the men's shower, no one would think twice about it..... but few people usually do it anyways. You don't mess with Americans' kids. Anyways, we don't need to argue about it, I think we probably are close enough to seeing each other's sides.

July 11th, 2009, 11:13 AM	#80
Purspeed ninjette.org guru Name: Purspeed Location: Los Angeles, CA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 469	...this thread has taken a turn for the surreal. __________________________________________________ "This is my Ninja. There are many like it, but this one is mine..." ~ Purspeed (ca. Nov, 2008)

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