Purchasing a Brand New Ninja 250R

bad_bwoy007 · April 26th, 2012, 06:47 PM

I went to a dealer and was quoted these OTD prices:

2012 SE $5200 OTD ($4200 base) MSRP $4449
2011 $4700 OTD ($3700 base) MSRP $3999

Fees are $630 (freight, handling, doc) + tax (6% in MI) + $45 (plate and title)

Why do I feel as if this is not a good deal. They always try to make it seem like they are doing you a favor by saying there is barely any markup on bikes and I can take a few hundred off.

Garbage.

Somebody help me out. Trying to get a bike purchased within a week.

I'd really rather get a 2011 as nothing but the color schemes have changed, but man, can they give me a better price from the MSRP of $3999.

xMoises831 · April 26th, 2012, 06:54 PM

those are good prices 5,000 OTD is very good for 2012 + 200

Malicious Logic · April 26th, 2012, 06:54 PM

Prices really depend on where you live in the country. In Oklahoma, I can get a 2012 special edition for $4600 using a -200 military discount. Elsewhere, like Cali, people would kill their brother for that deal.

xMoises831 · April 26th, 2012, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malicious Logic

Prices really depend on where you live in the country. In Oklahoma, I can get a 2012 special edition for $4600 using a -200 military discount. Elsewhere, like Cali, people would kill their brother for that deal.

yea i live in CAli lol thats what I'm saying

bad_bwoy007 · April 26th, 2012, 06:57 PM

See that's just the issue.

$4800 for a 2012 and $4700 in MI for a 2011, something is wrong.

LOL!!

bad_bwoy007 · April 26th, 2012, 06:58 PM

I'd hate to know what a 2011 OTD would cost over there!

xMoises831 · April 26th, 2012, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_bwoy007

See that's just the issue.

$4800 for a 2012 and $4700 in MI for a 2011, something is wrong.

LOL!!

no like you said they are both the same besides the color

if you can get this 1 so i can hate you its an 2011 SE i love it i want it so bad

xMoises831 · April 26th, 2012, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_bwoy007

I'd hate to know what a 2011 OTD would cost over there!

5,000 most likely

bad_bwoy007 · April 26th, 2012, 07:07 PM

No need to worry. Im looking to get this one.

bad_bwoy007 · April 26th, 2012, 07:10 PM

I guess my only option is to call every dealership close by and compare prices.

BTW those prices didn't even include a "FREE" helmet.

"FREE" LOL!!!!

Reswob · April 26th, 2012, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_bwoy007

I went to a dealer and was quoted these OTD prices:

2012 SE $5200 OTD ($4200 base) MSRP $4449
2011 $4700 OTD ($3700 base) MSRP $3999

Fees are $630 (freight, handling, doc) + tax (6% in MI) + $45 (plate and title)

Why do I feel as if this is not a good deal. They always try to make it seem like they are doing you a favor by saying there is barely any markup on bikes and I can take a few hundred off.

Garbage.

Somebody help me out. Trying to get a bike purchased within a week.

I'd really rather get a 2011 as nothing but the color schemes have changed, but man, can they give me a better price from the MSRP of $3999.

If they have a leftover 2011, I would offer them (walk in with cash or a check already written for the amount) the $4,000 msrp (or a little under), plus whatever taxes and DMV stuff actually comes to in your state. Nothing hurts a sales manager more than seeing cash walk out the door.

xMoises831 · April 26th, 2012, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_bwoy007

I guess my only option is to call every dealership close by and compare prices.

BTW those prices didn't even include a "FREE" helmet.

"FREE" LOL!!!!

yes do that and see if you could fu** with them a lil say oh no i got a better price else somewhere else and say they gave me so and so price OTD but i thought i would check here first because i heard you guys have better prices but guess not .. muahaha u got to have the mind of a 15 and 2/3 yo lol i would be doing that to all of them and they will scoop you back up and not let you walk away and if they don't say anything just walk away like you don't even care hahha

Miles_Prower · April 28th, 2012, 11:06 PM

Here in PA, I went to two dealers..first said a 2012 base would cost 5300. Second gave it to me for a tad over 5000, and they said up front they don't negotiate at all.

Pudge Ate Me · April 28th, 2012, 11:35 PM

Cheapest place within 200 miles of me I found in Charlotte NC and they got me the 2012 green one for 4700 OTD with a free kawi jacket cause he thought my woman was cute. It was litteraly just a hoody not a riding jacket

Trailerboy531 · April 29th, 2012, 01:22 AM

You feel like thats a bad deal because it is; like all brand new 250s. There's really very little reason to buy new. Buy used from someone who took care of their bike, or at least didn't murder it.

Sordino · April 29th, 2012, 09:52 AM

Purchased my 2012 Ninja SE in Richmond, VA paid $4400 OTD but it was on winter sale.

choneofakind · April 29th, 2012, 09:59 AM

Buy used!! I got a used bike in perfect condition with 6300 miles for $1600. Don't waste money on dealer fees and depreciation. That's all you're doing on a vehicle that only costs $3999 when you buy it new.

Mr.E · April 29th, 2012, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xMoises831

no like you said they are both the same besides the color

if you can get this 1 so i can hate you its an 2011 SE i love it i want it so bad

Those prices beat what I got my 2011 SE for. A little over 6k. :-) Lol

xMoises831 · April 29th, 2012, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.E

Those prices beat what I got my 2011 SE for. A little over 6k. :-) Lol

worth it? wait let me answer for you hell yea! lol

xSean13 · April 29th, 2012, 11:58 AM

I would definitely look at buying a used bike, specifically from a private seller, as they would be more likely to negotiate. From a dealer's perspective...the demand on the ninja 250s is very high, especially now that it's getting into the summer & gas price averages are high. So, whatever they say the best they can do...is probably the best they can do.

I was negotiating with a dealer over a used 250, and we were like $100 off from making a deal (was paying cash, btw), and I walked out expecting they'd call a couple days later saying they talked to the manager and was able to meet my price. Went back in there a couple days later and half of their 250s, including the one we were negotiating were sold

Miles_Prower · April 29th, 2012, 12:53 PM

I really think it depends on what you want the bike for, and what your mindset is like. The reason I bought new is because I don't like to deal with trying to figure out what I'm getting used, condition, etc and because I live alone and know no one around here. I paid for the "convenience" if you want to call it that. Also, the second biggest reason was because I know that I want to keep this bike til the wheels fall off (or god forbid, gets totaled), so I don't care about resale value and depreciation. If you are like me, buying new makes sense.

But if you buy knowing you're going to unload the bike and upgrade once you've learned how to ride, then I guess used is the way to go. =D

Jiggles · April 29th, 2012, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

You feel like thats a bad deal because it is; like all brand new 250s. There's really very little reason to buy new. Buy used from someone who took care of their bike, or at least didn't murder it.

Except that you know its never been touched by anyone else, has never been down and has never been improperly cared for. Besides you can just total it and get all your money back 8 months later

bad_bwoy007 · April 29th, 2012, 03:00 PM

I had a used 2009 and sold it.

I wanted to buy a new one so I did what I could.

I called all the dealers within reasonable distance from me and got quotes.

No 2011s were at any of the dealers so I took my best quote for a 2012 and told my local dealer to not only match it but BEAT it.

They did just that!

I will be picking it up tomorrow as the bike wasn't "PREPPED" to leave yet.

So my advice to anyone buying new, from my experience the best price I got was from a small dealer who only had one of each color.

Then I took that price and had my dealer beat it. So no worries about driving miles away for a pickup!

xMoises831 · April 29th, 2012, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_bwoy007

I had a used 2009 and sold it.

I wanted to buy a new one so I did what I could.

I called all the dealers within reasonable distance from me and got quotes.

No 2011s were at any of the dealers so I took my best quote for a 2012 and told my local dealer to not only match it but BEAT it.

They did just that!

I will be picking it up tomorrow as the bike wasn't "PREPPED" to leave yet.

So my advice to anyone buying new, from my experience the best price I got was from a small dealer who only had one of each color.

Then I took that price and had my dealer beat it. So no worries about driving miles away for a pickup!

lucky!

bad_bwoy007 · May 2nd, 2012, 05:19 AM

Picked them up yesterday.

Already Blacked-out both Windscreens.

Miles_Prower · May 2nd, 2012, 06:21 AM

lol you have two of the same bike??
WICKED!

bad_bwoy007 · May 2nd, 2012, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles_Prower

lol you have two of the same bike??
WICKED!

One is mine, one is my wife's.

Miles_Prower · May 2nd, 2012, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_bwoy007

One is mine, one is my wife's.

Renner · May 2nd, 2012, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Buy used!!....... Don't waste money on dealer fees and depreciation.

Couldn't of said it better myself....let the 1st guy be the sucker and eat the fees...then you come in a swoop up the bike

Sloppy seconds is NOT BAD in the motorcycle world

IdRatherDrum · May 2nd, 2012, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xMoises831

no like you said they are both the same besides the color

if you can get this 1 so i can hate you its an 2011 SE i love it i want it so bad

That's one I want!!

bad_bwoy007 · May 2nd, 2012, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renner

Couldn't of said it better myself....let the 1st guy be the sucker and eat the fees...then you come in a swoop up the bike

Sloppy seconds is NOT BAD in the motorcycle world

Well that's all fine a dandy when you can find a decent bike.

I looked for months, this was my best option.

Plus, when you have good negotiating skills, doesn't matter too much.

Also I don't plan on selling my bike so I'm good to go.

April 26th, 2012, 06:47 PM	#1
bad_bwoy007 ninjette.org member Name: Jay Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja SE 250R "Knight Rider" Posts: 78 Blog Entries: 1	Purchasing a Brand New Ninja 250R I went to a dealer and was quoted these OTD prices: 2012 SE $5200 OTD ($4200 base) MSRP $4449 2011 $4700 OTD ($3700 base) MSRP $3999 Fees are $630 (freight, handling, doc) + tax (6% in MI) + $45 (plate and title) Why do I feel as if this is not a good deal. They always try to make it seem like they are doing you a favor by saying there is barely any markup on bikes and I can take a few hundred off. Garbage. Somebody help me out. Trying to get a bike purchased within a week. I'd really rather get a 2011 as nothing but the color schemes have changed, but man, can they give me a better price from the MSRP of $3999.

April 26th, 2012, 06:54 PM	#3
Malicious Logic hates stupid people Name: Mark Location: Oklahoma City Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R Posts: 860	Prices really depend on where you live in the country. In Oklahoma, I can get a 2012 special edition for $4600 using a -200 military discount. Elsewhere, like Cali, people would kill their brother for that deal. __________________________________________________ My vlogging channel: Ma1iciousLogic

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xMoises831 ninjette.org guru Name: Moises Location: watsonville Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 364 Blog Entries: 1	those are good prices 5,000 OTD is very good for 2012 + 200

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bad_bwoy007 ninjette.org member Name: Jay Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja SE 250R "Knight Rider" Posts: 78 Blog Entries: 1	See that's just the issue. $4800 for a 2012 and $4700 in MI for a 2011, something is wrong. LOL!!

April 26th, 2012, 06:58 PM	#6
bad_bwoy007 ninjette.org member Name: Jay Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja SE 250R "Knight Rider" Posts: 78 Blog Entries: 1	I'd hate to know what a 2011 OTD would cost over there!

April 26th, 2012, 07:07 PM	#9
bad_bwoy007 ninjette.org member Name: Jay Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja SE 250R "Knight Rider" Posts: 78 Blog Entries: 1	No need to worry. Im looking to get this one.

April 26th, 2012, 07:10 PM	#10
bad_bwoy007 ninjette.org member Name: Jay Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja SE 250R "Knight Rider" Posts: 78 Blog Entries: 1	I guess my only option is to call every dealership close by and compare prices. BTW those prices didn't even include a "FREE" helmet. "FREE" LOL!!!!

April 28th, 2012, 11:06 PM	#13
Miles_Prower One Loyal Fox Name: Rahul Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R (RIP), 2011 ZX-6R Posts: 869	Here in PA, I went to two dealers..first said a 2012 base would cost 5300. Second gave it to me for a tad over 5000, and they said up front they don't negotiate at all.

April 28th, 2012, 11:35 PM	#14
Pudge Ate Me 2012 Ninja 250R Green Name: Ryan Location: North Carolina Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R Green Posts: 76	Cheapest place within 200 miles of me I found in Charlotte NC and they got me the 2012 green one for 4700 OTD with a free kawi jacket cause he thought my woman was cute. It was litteraly just a hoody not a riding jacket

April 29th, 2012, 01:22 AM	#15
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	You feel like thats a bad deal because it is; like all brand new 250s. There's really very little reason to buy new. Buy used from someone who took care of their bike, or at least didn't murder it.

April 29th, 2012, 09:52 AM	#16
Sordino ninjette.org member Name: David Location: Richmond, VA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Black SE Posts: 24	Purchased my 2012 Ninja SE in Richmond, VA paid $4400 OTD but it was on winter sale.

April 29th, 2012, 09:59 AM	#17
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Buy used!! I got a used bike in perfect condition with 6300 miles for $1600. Don't waste money on dealer fees and depreciation. That's all you're doing on a vehicle that only costs $3999 when you buy it new.

April 29th, 2012, 11:58 AM	#20
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	I would definitely look at buying a used bike, specifically from a private seller, as they would be more likely to negotiate. From a dealer's perspective...the demand on the ninja 250s is very high, especially now that it's getting into the summer & gas price averages are high. So, whatever they say the best they can do...is probably the best they can do. I was negotiating with a dealer over a used 250, and we were like $100 off from making a deal (was paying cash, btw), and I walked out expecting they'd call a couple days later saying they talked to the manager and was able to meet my price. Went back in there a couple days later and half of their 250s, including the one we were negotiating were sold

April 29th, 2012, 12:53 PM	#21
Miles_Prower One Loyal Fox Name: Rahul Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R (RIP), 2011 ZX-6R Posts: 869	I really think it depends on what you want the bike for, and what your mindset is like. The reason I bought new is because I don't like to deal with trying to figure out what I'm getting used, condition, etc and because I live alone and know no one around here. I paid for the "convenience" if you want to call it that. Also, the second biggest reason was because I know that I want to keep this bike til the wheels fall off (or god forbid, gets totaled), so I don't care about resale value and depreciation. If you are like me, buying new makes sense. But if you buy knowing you're going to unload the bike and upgrade once you've learned how to ride, then I guess used is the way to go. =D

April 29th, 2012, 03:00 PM	#23
bad_bwoy007 ninjette.org member Name: Jay Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja SE 250R "Knight Rider" Posts: 78 Blog Entries: 1	I had a used 2009 and sold it. I wanted to buy a new one so I did what I could. I called all the dealers within reasonable distance from me and got quotes. No 2011s were at any of the dealers so I took my best quote for a 2012 and told my local dealer to not only match it but BEAT it. They did just that! I will be picking it up tomorrow as the bike wasn't "PREPPED" to leave yet. So my advice to anyone buying new, from my experience the best price I got was from a small dealer who only had one of each color. Then I took that price and had my dealer beat it. So no worries about driving miles away for a pickup!

May 2nd, 2012, 06:21 AM	#26
Miles_Prower One Loyal Fox Name: Rahul Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R (RIP), 2011 ZX-6R Posts: 869	lol you have two of the same bike?? WICKED!