Beginner Jacket Help - Page 2

RyderRider15 · April 3rd, 2012, 05:57 PM

That sounds right. Also if you went with something like the KNOX Aegis you'd take the pad out and ware the back protector as a separate piece of gear. If you went with something like the Alpinestars Bionic Air, you'd replace it with the upgrade and use the jacket normally.

Jmar24 · April 3rd, 2012, 05:57 PM

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Heres what I suggest. Get summer gloves now. (it is about to be summer after all) and if you find yourself even needing winter gloves, take a look at these. However like I said, you're a new rider, don't spend all your money on stuff you might not even need or want. Your going to ride your bike in summer, thats a given. So worry about summer gear now and upgrade as you feel is needed.

Yeah I think that's what I'm gonna do. Can't be overwhelming myself with nonessential stuff at the moment. Thanks for the advice.

Jmar24 · April 3rd, 2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RyderRider15

That sounds right. Also if you went with something like the KNOX Aegis you'd take the pad out and ware the back protector as a separate piece of gear. If you went with something like the Alpinestars Bionic Air, you'd replace it with the upgrade and use the jacket normally.

If I chose to get an insert, I have to get one that is made by the same company right? it looks like the pocket is specifically stitched for only certain pads.

Whiskey · April 3rd, 2012, 06:22 PM

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Then would I still keep the little back cushion that comes with my jacket in there or is that ok to take out?

Also, I just got my jacket, the teknic (quick shipping), and the sleeves seem to fit well while holding my arms down at my side but the length of the jacket itself only comes down to about my waist in the front and just to my tailbone in the back. I know it's suppose to fit a little different but does that sound about right?

When you get a better spine protector take the original one out of the jacket. The aegis has a kidney belt & shoulder straps, so it fits beneath the jacket not in the pocket.

Yours sounds a little bit short, but the important question is does it feel right or wrong when you sit on the bike?

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If I chose to get an insert, I have to get one that is made by the same company right? it looks like the pocket is specifically stitched for only certain pads.

You can get different brands, once they are designed to fit that shape, there are a few 'standard' shapes

Jmar24 · April 3rd, 2012, 06:40 PM

Yeah I don't think it's big enough. I'm gonna do an exchange. But I think I would feel more comfortable with the separate spine protector, the one that you have. I'll add it to the list.

RyderRider15 · April 3rd, 2012, 06:57 PM

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If I chose to get an insert, I have to get one that is made by the same company right? it looks like the pocket is specifically stitched for only certain pads.

Yes and no. Not all pads will fit all jackets. However some you can cut to fit, and I'd say its generally easy to find a pad that fits.

TBC · April 3rd, 2012, 07:04 PM

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Also another side note. I suggest getting A* gear a lot if you haven't noticed. Reason is because their stuff is protective, parts are replaceable and upgradeable and imo its the best gear out there.

Funny - I've had the opposite experience. I bought a pair of Alpinestars gloves and they fell apart after fewer than ten miles with them. It then took Alpinestars two months to repair them. Now, with less than 1000 miles on them, they really look like they're fraying.

I also just spent a large chunk of cash on some Alpinestars boots. They fit well (a very difficult thing for me with boots) and seem protective (relatively), but they feel rather cheaply built with some parts and IMO would not hold up nearly as well in a crash as similarly priced boots by competitors (which, unfortunately, don't fit my foot). I honestly think Alpinestars stuff is mostly overpriced (albeit stylish).

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I don't know if you've bought one yet, but here's my experience with AGV Sport...I don't know if my experience with them is the rule or the exception, but take it as you may.

My jacket is an AGV Sport Tempest, and I think it's awesome. The water liner zipper (i.e. not the liner zipper, but the waterproof zipper behind the main zipper) can sometimes be a little finicky, but it's otherwise an awesome jacket.

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Originally Posted by Jmar24

If I chose to get an insert, I have to get one that is made by the same company right? it looks like the pocket is specifically stitched for only certain pads.

You can get any one that is sized to fit the pocket. I have an AGV Sport jacket and AGV Sport doesn't make back protectors. I went to a local store and it turns out an Alpinestars back protector fit in it perfectly.

One thing you should watch out for: a jacket insert will not protect your lower spine and tailbone, while a wearable one will. That being said, a wearable one is a much bigger hassle to deal with if you plan on commuting anywhere with the bike.

Jmar24 · April 3rd, 2012, 07:25 PM

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You can get any one that is sized to fit the pocket. I have an AGV Sport jacket and AGV Sport doesn't make back protectors. I went to a local store and it turns out an Alpinestars back protector fit in it perfectly.

One thing you should watch out for: a jacket insert will not protect your lower spine and tailbone, while a wearable one will. That being said, a wearable one is a much bigger hassle to deal with if you plan on commuting anywhere with the bike.

Hmmm.. Maybe I'll just have to get both

RyderRider15 · April 3rd, 2012, 07:45 PM

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Funny - I've had the opposite experience. I bought a pair of Alpinestars gloves and they fell apart after fewer than ten miles with them. It then took Alpinestars two months to repair them. Now, with less than 1000 miles on them, they really look like they're fraying.

I also just spent a large chunk of cash on some Alpinestars boots. They fit well (a very difficult thing for me with boots) and seem protective (relatively), but they feel rather cheaply built with some parts and IMO would not hold up nearly as well in a crash as similarly priced boots by competitors (which, unfortunately, don't fit my foot). I honestly think Alpinestars stuff is mostly overpriced (albeit stylish).

I've had 3 pair of their gloves now with no problems with any of them so far. My oldest pair is a 2010 model of the SMX-2 gloves, which have a good amount of miles on them (over 3000) and still holding up fine. My other two pair are the Apex I got for cold weather which I used all winter and still look like new, and my newest ones the SP2s which only have about 1000 miles in them. I will admit on the SMX-2s the rubber crap the put on the fingers has come off after like 2 miles, but the rest of the glove is fine. The boots I bought were the SMX-5s which I've done about 1500 miles in I'd say again still like new. The jacket also seems to be holding up fine so far.

What gear did you get if I might ask? I do know A* has a lot of rip off look a likes which I hear a lot of bad things about.

TBC · April 3rd, 2012, 08:01 PM

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What gear did you get if I might ask? I do know A* has a lot of rip off look a likes which I hear a lot of bad things about.

I got the SP-X Gloves and the SMX-Plus boots.

akshay11 · April 4th, 2012, 05:44 PM

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Final decision
this one
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...leather-jacket
or this one
http://www.revzilla.com/product/tekn...leather-jacket

I actually ordered that AGV one, and then like 2 mins after placing the order i read down below where it said the all black jacket is actually all black and doesnt have the white stripe.
Ended up buying this one http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...size_chart_tab and I like it. Flows a decent amount of air as well.

Jmar24 · April 4th, 2012, 06:29 PM

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I actually ordered that AGV one, and then like 2 mins after placing the order i read down below where it said the all black jacket is actually all black and doesnt have the white stripe.
Ended up buying this one http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...size_chart_tab and I like it. Flows a decent amount of air as well.

Yeah I liked the white strips as well. I really like that monza though. That honestly may be my next jacket purchase.

GreenNinja · April 5th, 2012, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by akshay11

I actually ordered that AGV one, and then like 2 mins after placing the order i read down below where it said the all black jacket is actually all black and doesnt have the white stripe.
Ended up buying this one http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/a...size_chart_tab and I like it. Flows a decent amount of air as well.

Soo do you look like that last picture in your link wearing that jacket?

April 3rd, 2012, 05:57 PM	#41
RyderRider15 Ate his own face. Twice. Name: John Location: Durham Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r, 2009 KLR650 Posts: 109	That sounds right. Also if you went with something like the KNOX Aegis you'd take the pad out and ware the back protector as a separate piece of gear. If you went with something like the Alpinestars Bionic Air, you'd replace it with the upgrade and use the jacket normally. __________________________________________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/RyderRider15?feature=mhee Gear whore score: 74

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April 3rd, 2012, 06:40 PM	#45
Jmar24 ninjette.org member Name: Jaden Location: Pennsylvania Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Green SE Ninja 250r Posts: 20	Yeah I don't think it's big enough. I'm gonna do an exchange. But I think I would feel more comfortable with the separate spine protector, the one that you have. I'll add it to the list.