Sound Clip : Stock Exhaust vs Area P 15"

[noche_caliente]

So Nick got around to installing his exhaust, and sent me the video to compile for your listening pleasure....
He has the 15" Carbon Exhaust with the turn-down tip - and boy does it look good!

From Nick when he was telling me about getting it:

Originally Posted by NJD022588

Well, the quiet core is 18", standard is 12", and I ordered a 15". The quiet core is just too big and the standard is just too loud, so (hopefully) i chose a happy medium. I chose the 1.75" core (instead of 2") to keep it a little quieter.

Basically it's the quiet core, shortened which makes it a little louder but a bit more attractive.

[NJD022588]

Details now...

Both sound clips are taken with:
-Snorkel removed
-2 washers under each needle (I havent gotten around to replacing the jets with the new exhaust)

First half of the clip is the full stock exhaust.

Second half of the clip is a full Area P exhaust, 1.75" core, 15" muffler with turn down exit tip.

[NJD022588]

Oh, and for the Apea P clip, the bike doesnt rev too smoothly without the jet kit. I'm not sure if it will change the sound after the jet kit is installed and tuned.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

Basically it's the quiet core, shortened which makes it a little louder but a bit more attractive.

i highly doubt that.

[Anteraan]

Originally Posted by kkim

i highly doubt that.

YMMV. I find the 18" can hideous. The 15" can sounds nice, seems more like the 12" in character and tone than the 18" (which is a good thing, imo).

I like the 12" version the most (out of everything I've heard), but I don't want to risk the bike being obnoxious. The 15" might be the compromise I'm looking for.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by Anteraan

YMMV. I find the 18" can hideous.

ah, I see you own a blue bike... that explains it.

[Anteraan]

Originally Posted by kkim

ah, I see you own a blue bike... that explains it.

Yes, it's proof that I have taste outside the boundaries of my mouth.

I mean, I was hamstrung in a sense that I bought an '09. Have a little pity on me for that. Had I bought an '08, I couldn't miss with the palette. The only two colors I'd consider out of the '09's are the blue and black. The black doesn't show off the gorgeous body panel shapes, imo - so blue it was.

Besides, the blue brings out my eyes.

[abyssdncr]

Wow, I dig it! I think this is going to be the exhaust for me (us).

I like the sound of the Yosh a little better still, but seems to sacrifice low/mid torque whereas the Area P doesn't and still sounds great.

Thanks for posting the clip!

[a10forwar]

Area P sounds way better!!

[MKlein3004]

post a pic of the 15 inch with turndown tip, its what im looking at getting

[noche_caliente]

Mitchell - I hope to get Nick's bike, along with mine and Momaru's all together this weekend for a stock vs. 18" vs. 15" clip - I'll try to do pics as well if Nick doesn't post them sooner

[MKlein3004]

cool cool, ill wait patiently to see the beauties

[NJD022588]

This is the only picture I have right now. I can get a better one later.

[250fan]

WOW!!! That bike is amazing with the 15" can!!!! The 18" is WAAYYY to big and I think the 12" is too short........but that looks awesome! I will be doing the exact same to mine! Love the color!

[MKlein3004]

looks good, but *cough* side pic *cough*

[noche_caliente]

patience Mitchell - we're all going to ride tomorrow, so hopefully we can get some good comparison pics

[MKlein3004]

lol, glad sarcasm could be seen by you noche, but really am patiently waiting for the comparison pics. I have become relatively patient these last two weeks waiting on two companies to get back to me with job offers so that i might have a chance to buy the 15" can from area p

Patiently waiting

[NJD022588]

Just the 15 inch:



Stock, 15 inch, 18 inch:




And, my camera thinks its January 2007

[noche_caliente]

And another sound clip - stock, then 18", then 15 ", all revving to about 7 or 8 k

[250fan]

Originally Posted by NJD022588

Just the 15 inch:



Stock, 15 inch, 18 inch:




And, my camera thinks its January 2007

Very very nice! That 15" looks great! What kind of flush mounts did you use on your bike

great shots though! id love to see more!

[MKlein3004]

those pics just helped me make my mind up, 15" with downward tip in CF, thanks for the pics

[NJD022588]

Originally Posted by 250fan

What kind of flush mounts did you use on your bike

http://www.newenoughhp.com/parts/tur...flat_oval.html

I got the medium clear ones

[Buffalony]

Nice pic. Thanks for the clips. very cool you did that.
where were you guys?

Anybody have an AP vs Yosh exhaust comparison in the same recording?

I wont buy an AP exhaust until they can give me a Green AP Sticker to put on it!!!
I'd like a 15 incher with a removable silencer tip. I do love the look of the turn down tip though. Anyone know if a silencer is available for that tip?

[Nevrfastenuf]

Originally Posted by Buffalony

Anybody have an AP vs Yosh exhaust comparison in the same recording?

I wont buy an AP exhaust until they can give me a Green AP Sticker to put on it!!!
I'd like a 15 incher with a removable silencer tip. I do love the look of the turn down tip though. Anyone know if a silencer is available for that tip?

Myself and a few other forum members are planning a fall ride for next weekend (the 26th) and I will try and get a sound clip of the AP and the Yoshimura while we are together.

[Rayme]

Man I love that quiet core...but I can't justify spending 500+$ USD on a piece of pipe.

[noche_caliente]

Clint - if you need any help processing it, let me know

[Voodoo Rufus]

For me, the question is turned-down or flat conical end cap.

[HMB-ninja]

i notice that the pipe distance from the faring to the can is much longer than on or stockers would it be possible to cut the pipe bringing the can down closer to the fairing?

[noche_caliente]

David - that's mostly an illusion provided to you by the heat shield on the stocker...
as for modifying the pipe, I wouldn't suggest it - the amount of research that Kerry put into the system doesn't really pay off when you go and chop the pipe so it will look better...

[HMB-ninja]

it was just a thought, do you think if the heat sheild was mounted in place on the area p it would fill that gap to look a little more like a stock piece? anyone have a pic similar to the setup i'm talking about?

[HMB-ninja]

noche, i like your location. land of deams sounds like a nice place can i visit sometime? haha

[noche_caliente]

Originally Posted by HMB-ninja

it was just a thought, do you think if the heat sheild was mounted in place on the area p it would fill that gap to look a little more like a stock piece? anyone have a pic similar to the setup i'm talking about?

I have a spare heat shield laying around, and I think both of the boys still have theirs - maybe I can get a pic for you at some point... I'm planning to use the heat shield with mine when I go for the Area P

[Momaru]

I've been toying around with a similar setup (stock heat shield), but since I've the CF pipe instead od the stainless I decided not to. Instead planning to get some flat black high-temp paint and coat the whole pipe up to the can. Would be happy to mock up something though, so you've got a concept pic.

[HMB-ninja]

you could flat black the heat sheild thats what i was thinking of doing if i got the carbon area p

[wayanlam]

i finally received the 15" flat end Can from AP today

had a little trouble with the tax office, who wanted to charge me too much on the import duty's. managed to pay about $60 less after checking up with them, but still had to pay about US$200, meh!

however after opening the box and seeing the exhaust, any lingering regrets vanished! she looks beautiful, and i want to go home and install it now! if i weren't stuck here at work that is, lol.

i noticed only two tiny imperfection, and that's a couple chips in the CF along the back edge, i believe that's where they cut it shorter from the Quiet 18" model down to the 15". then there is a very small crack in the CF next to one of the screws. but that's only visible if your looking at it with your nose stuck to the pipe.. which i doubt will happen once its locked and loaded onto my bike :P

Kerry has been very patient with my all to frequent questions, and i hope hes not thinking im a freak for asking so many things! ha ha~ definitely good customer service thanks man.

going home soon and wondering how long it will take to install this baby, and if i should attempt to do it today, or wait for the week end...

[noche_caliente]

do it today!

[backinthesaddleagain]

When I go to the Area P site I only see 3 exhausts:
Optional Long Quiet Carbon Fiber
Standard Carbon Fiber
Standard Stainless Steel
yet I see on here someone just got a 15" CF and KKim has a Quiet Stainless Steel. Do the choices change or are some special order?

[Voodoo Rufus]

You can special order them if you ask, either a 15" quiet core CF or 14" standard SS.

[wayanlam]

well i just finished installing the 15" CF QC, and boy it has a good rumble to it! (yes, did it today! couldnt resist, managed to finish up before it got dark).

i will be adjusting the shims and removing the snorkel + kleen air maybe this week end, still need to gather up the parts to close up the hose nobs.

^ lol... wrote the above before i went out, and randomly left the house before i finished posting this.

now after coming back from a ride around to have dinner with some friends i find it a little on the loud side. i don't know how people would put up with a 12" standard core, cos that must be LOUD... and even the other after market exhausts which are said to be louder still!

but i guess it will take some getting used to this volume after only ever riding bikes with their standard inaudible mufflers. however it already makes the bike seem like it migrated from the scooter department, to a proper bike... dont know how to say this, but i guess when your as silent as the wind, it somehow feels like on a bicycle, ive noticed more people looking/glancing my way, and its good not because i want to be obnoxious, or wanna be seen... well i want to be seen for safety reasons, not for my ego, rofl. most accidents here happen because people ride in a way that you can only understand when you come here, and that is they go, and assume that the others see them, and slow down or stop for them! works most of the time, but they ofter underestimate people that are going faster than average...

anyhow, it felt like i was able to get up to 150 kmh quite easy , where as i haven't pushed the bike that far before the mod. (always stopped at around 140~145 Kmh) and i still have to do all the complicated fiddly stiff to tune up the carb. now I'm really looking forward to feeling the difference once its all properly set up.

i had some partial backfires, but i did not do any hard deceleration, which would probably get some proper backfiring action going. definitely need to remove the kleen air system.

ok, i need some advice from our Guru's;
should i go for the full stage 2 dynojet mod, or just shim the needles (with the needles that i got in the kit)? im thinking of doing it in stages, but seeing that ill have the snorkel + kleenair removed, and the full exhaust installed, i wouldn't want to cause any damage running the bike too lean

hope you guys didn't fall asleep half way through that post, hr hr hr

[backinthesaddleagain]

Originally Posted by Voodoo Rufus

You can special order them if you ask, either a 15" quiet core CF or 14" standard SS.

thanks