10 Bad Ideas that Made Great Bikes

patw · November 30th, 2011, 11:57 AM

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne..._/R-EPI-134136

jstrain · November 30th, 2011, 01:09 PM

That was a cool article

patw · November 30th, 2011, 01:11 PM

Totally out of context for the site, but when I find cool articles, I post them up anyways. Maybe the N250 is off the list because it does nothing wrong?

cbdallas · November 30th, 2011, 01:26 PM

It may have affected weight distrubution in a negative way, but I don't ride 10/10ths EVER, so it matters little to me. The V4 in the V65 Magna was one of my all time favorites.

andylawcc · November 30th, 2011, 01:53 PM

haha, good read..

Alex · November 30th, 2011, 02:01 PM

Made me smile, but don't take all of it as gospel. Most of the GP bikes voluntarily choose a V4 engine layout, as the fastest choice for the motorcycle.

greg737 · November 30th, 2011, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Which is how we end up with what Damian Harty, Senior Research Fellow at renowned bike boffin hothouse Coventry University, calls Harley’s “comprehensive mechanical dysfunction”

You have to love the British way with words. And, of course, it's only funny because it's so true.

However, the old warning about throwing stones in glass houses applies because there's definitely something approaching "comprehensive mechanical dysfunction" at work inside the engines on any of Triumph's cruiser-type bikes.

andylawcc · November 30th, 2011, 04:12 PM

for me, SSS (singlesideswingarm) is the most illogical amongst all.

greg737 · November 30th, 2011, 04:32 PM

I guess the Suzuki RG500 "Gamma" engine might qualify for an honorable mention in a list like this.

andylawcc · November 30th, 2011, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg737

I guess the Suzuki RG500 "Gamma" engine might qualify for an honorable mention in a list like this.

what so 'bad' about it?

greg737 · November 30th, 2011, 04:42 PM

He's downing undertail exhausts? They're great. The extra heat and airflow keeps things powder-dry back there.

An undertail exhaust is effective at preventing both Swamp Ass and Monkey Butt.

greg737 · November 30th, 2011, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andylawcc

what so 'bad' about it?

I guess that's the problem with the title the author chose for his article. He used the word "bad" but I don't think he meant it as an insult to any of the machinery (besides the Harley).

I never said there was something "bad" about it.

But just as he points out about the V-4, the Gamma "square four" is complex and heavier than an inline 4 and it took Suzuki quite a bit of effort to make it competative.

reaubideux · December 2nd, 2011, 06:47 AM

Boooooo.. I love undertail exhausts and single-sided swingarms, but only because they just look so damn good.

November 30th, 2011, 11:57 AM	#1
patw ninjette.org guru Name: Pat Location: Barrie, Ontario Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 SE Posts: 338	10 Bad Ideas that Made Great Bikes http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne..._/R-EPI-134136 __________________________________________________ 2013 CRF250L 1985 GL1200 Interstate

November 30th, 2011, 01:09 PM	#2
jstrain ninjette.org guru Name: Jeremy Location: Philadelphia Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '04 Aprilia RSV, '10 Bonneville, '10 Ninjette Posts: 359	That was a cool article __________________________________________________ -Jeremy

November 30th, 2011, 01:11 PM	#3
patw ninjette.org guru Name: Pat Location: Barrie, Ontario Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 SE Posts: 338	Totally out of context for the site, but when I find cool articles, I post them up anyways. Maybe the N250 is off the list because it does nothing wrong? __________________________________________________ 2013 CRF250L 1985 GL1200 Interstate

November 30th, 2011, 02:01 PM	#6
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Made me smile, but don't take all of it as gospel. Most of the GP bikes voluntarily choose a V4 engine layout, as the fastest choice for the motorcycle. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

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November 30th, 2011, 01:26 PM	#4
cbdallas ninjette.org guru Name: Charlie Location: Wylie, TX Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 650R Posts: 317	It may have affected weight distrubution in a negative way, but I don't ride 10/10ths EVER, so it matters little to me. The V4 in the V65 Magna was one of my all time favorites.

November 30th, 2011, 01:53 PM	#5
andylawcc ninjette.org guru Name: andy Location: san gabriel Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 faster red Posts: 397	haha, good read..

November 30th, 2011, 04:12 PM	#8
andylawcc ninjette.org guru Name: andy Location: san gabriel Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 faster red Posts: 397	for me, SSS (singlesideswingarm) is the most illogical amongst all.

November 30th, 2011, 04:32 PM	#9
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	I guess the Suzuki RG500 "Gamma" engine might qualify for an honorable mention in a list like this.

November 30th, 2011, 04:42 PM	#11
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	He's downing undertail exhausts? They're great. The extra heat and airflow keeps things powder-dry back there. An undertail exhaust is effective at preventing both Swamp Ass and Monkey Butt.

December 2nd, 2011, 06:47 AM	#13
reaubideux Perpetual Newb Name: Jason Location: Imperial, MO Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 MIB Ninja 250R [sold]; 2006 CBR600RR [sold]; 2013 Triumph Street Triple R Posts: 782	Boooooo.. I love undertail exhausts and single-sided swingarms, but only because they just look so damn good.