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Old March 27th, 2013, 03:35 PM   #41
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To be fair, I live on campus at college... opportunities to work on my bike are very minimal, especially with my major haha
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Old March 27th, 2013, 04:47 PM   #42
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I locktite every bolt i touch. ever
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:28 PM   #43
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Definitely use blue loctite on this bolt and pretty much any other bolt on the rear sets.

I recently replaced my rear sets with the SVRacing ones and Blair made it pretty evident you should be using blue loctite generously.

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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:34 PM   #44
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I locktite every bolt i touch. ever
I'd be careful; this guy might object if you got too close.

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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:59 PM   #45
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I'd be careful; this guy might object if you got too close.



I replaced the pinch bolt/cotter with a socket head cap screw the first time I lost it. If you want to be doubly sure on all of your bolts if you replace them, buy a longer bolt and run a jam nut [just a hex nut] on the 'thru' side and tighten that as well.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:27 AM   #46
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Gear shifter fell off on highway

Was driving home the other day, went to downshift to make a pass. Then went to upshift and couldn't feel the shifter. Guess I didn't get it to 5th. Looked down and the shifter lever was flopping around. The bolt must have backed out. So I'm thinking what to do. I can't pull over. I'd never get started again in 6th gear. I'm still many miles from home also. I knew I could plan my route home and only have 1 red light to deal with. So, I make that exit, the light is green but then changes to red. I went ahead and hit the shoulder. I pulled the shifter and put the bike in 3rd. I only had about 2 blocks to go so 3rd is ok for that little distance and getting it moving wasn't too bad.

Ordered the parts online. $9 in parts and about that in shipping. Oh well, the price to play.

So, it's been driven into our heads time and time again. Give the bike a once over checking items before hitting the road. I might have caught the bolt being loose had I done that.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:31 AM   #47
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Glad you made it home safe. Make sure the bolt hole threads are still clean and you didn't bang them up when you were shifting on a partially extracted bolt. You might need to throw some helicoil in there.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:34 AM   #48
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Already installed new bolt and washer. I looked inside and checked the threads. They were ok. Took it for a ride. Got home. Rechecked tightness.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:36 AM   #49
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It happens yo and it's not really part of most riders TCLOCK checklist. Fixer up and put some blue loctite on that guy.

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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:40 AM   #50
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Old April 18th, 2013, 08:17 AM   #51
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loc tite 262 that bolt will never back out on its own ever again.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 10:28 AM   #52
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Blue loctite is fine don't go overboard
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Old April 18th, 2013, 04:33 PM   #53
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I just learned about checking bolts today. Last night I performed an oil change and I noticed a small pool of oil under my bike leaving work today. Turned out the bolt right next to the oil filter housing had came loose somehow cause I never touched it. Fortunetly it didn't fall out and spew oil all over my rear tire on the freeway causing me to crash or have my motor explode. Oil level is still full so I got lucky.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 05:02 PM   #54
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Old July 6th, 2013, 07:34 AM   #55
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Not trying to revive an old thread, but yeah that's exactly what I'm doing. This happened to me last night on I 95. I managed to pull over and began the search for a bolt on the bike that would fit. Turns out the allen-head bolts that hold the footpegs in place are the same thread pattern. Pulled one out of the right side peg (there are like five of them) and popped it in on the shifter and presto! I had a functioning shifter! The real parts are in the mail as we speak.
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Old May 18th, 2019, 01:26 PM   #56
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I know this thread is super old, and I have a 300 not a 250, but I need some help here.

I'm trying to get the old shifter off so I can put a new one on, but the bigger allen wrench that came with the bike kit is too small. I found a piece in my tool kit that fits that I can use with my screwdriver, but this bolt will not budge at all. I've had some issue getting bolts off of my bike for the first time, but strong neighbor has always been able to get them started for me. Not this time. Wouldn't budge for him either.

Any help? I can shift with the old one on there, but it's pretty bent. I could only get it bent back out far enough to where it's not hitting the rod on a downshift.
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Old May 18th, 2019, 05:35 PM   #57
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Make sure sure you're spinning in loosening direction (right-hand rule).

Strange that it's allen-key head on yours, should be 10mm socket.

You can also slip closed end of a 2nd wrench over first to increase leverage by having longer handle.
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Make sure sure you're spinning in loosening direction (right-hand rule).

Strange that it's allen-key head on yours, should be 10mm socket.

You can also slip closed end of a 2nd wrench over first to increase leverage by having longer handle.
My apologies, it's just the gear shifter lever, this is the only piece I'm replacing, it's the bolt that goes in the big hole with a washer



From what I've gathered after talking to Ducati999 and searching google, it's unwillingness to move is most likely a combination of crappy allen key in bike kit + loctite on bolt. So, going to try grabbing an allen key set that has the grippy T style handle for leverage and see if I can pop it that way. If not, I was told heat is the second step.

As for turning direction, I was going by lefty loosey. If that is wrong in this case, I need to know
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I recommend using allen-bit on ratchet socket.
https://www.harborfreight.com/6-pc-3...set-69546.html

Along with handle-extension, you’ll have enough leverage to undo the pivot bolt and not risk stripping it or injury. An 18” lever in this case makes easy work of this bolt.



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I had tried that with what was in my tool kit, but couldn't get it.

I tried heating it, couldn't get it.

I ended up taking the whole thing off and trying that way. Just like before, all it was doing was stripping the bolt. Neighbor found a Torx bit and hammered it in, then used a ratchet to get it. It took several tries, but worked. The whole bolt, from top to bottom, was covered in blue loctite. Crusty chunks of it were all around inside where the bolt goes in. I've been told that's how it should be, I just know I have to order a new bolt.
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I just HATE allen-headed bolts!! Just way too easy to strip. I replace them with regular hex bolts every chance I get!

I think just one drop of blue Loctite should do for most places that specify it.
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I just HATE allen-headed bolts!! Just way too easy to strip. I replace them with regular hex bolts every chance I get!
I'm still working on my morning coffee so I might be missing something obvious here, but aren't they the same thing?
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Regular bolts are typically called hex-head bolts.
https://www.boltdepot.com/Hex_bolts.aspx

Allen™ bolts are usually called internal-hex or socket-cap bolts.
https://www.boltdepot.com/Socket_screws.aspx

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Regular bolts are typically called hex-head bolts.
https://www.boltdepot.com/Hex_bolts.aspx

Allen™ bolts are usually called internal-hex or socket-cap bolts.
https://www.boltdepot.com/Socket_screws.aspx

https://www.mcmaster.com/hex-bolts
Gotcha, thanks. I didn't make the association with regular bolts.
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I just hate allen-key bolts with passion. Especially in higher-torque applications, using shallower rounded-head design with less engagement surface area is just asking for trouble. Especially when proper tools such as sockets and ratchet wrenches aren't used. Those little itty-bitty L-shaped keys are horrible! The sadistic engineer who designed them should be beaten!!!
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Those little itty-bitty L-shaped keys are horrible! The sadistic engineer who designed them should be beaten!!!
I agree. I ended up buying a set that had nice big handles on them for leverage. they work great, and they actually fit in the bolts on my bike (unlike the two that came with it).
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