School Help

[GodlyTroop]

so i figure i have my family pretty much down to let me get a motorcycle, my new problem is my schools principal, im planning on going in to talk to her tomorrow and if you guys could help me out with some ways to argue to let me ride to school in the mornings, cause i dont really have a very good idea of how to argue my case. no student has ever really ridden to school before so its a new thing, yeah lol, i think she's worried about causing a disturbance but im not sure, (its a private school)

[cerberusrex25]

Originally Posted by GodlyTroop

so i figure i have my family pretty much down to let me get a motorcycle, my new problem is my schools principal, im planning on going in to talk to her tomorrow and if you guys could help me out with some ways to argue to let me ride to school in the mornings, cause i dont really have a very good idea of how to argue my case. no student has ever really ridden to school before so its a new thing, yeah lol, i think she's worried about causing a disturbance but im not sure

Best way to do it is prove you are responsible. I see you are a football player, that tells me you do well in school( they don't let any burnout play) and are also a responsible, committed young man. Tell her this is your first vehicle and you would like to park it in school property just so you keep an eye on it and it doesn't get damaged outside. If push comes to shove you could always park outside the school and walk the little distance to your school, reality is is they can't dictate what you drive/ride.

TL: DR, be polite, show you are responsible and I'm sure it wont be a problem.

[CC Cowboy]

Why do you have to ask the principal? Does the word descrimination mean anything! I take it students can drive cars to school.

If you have to explain yourself I would bring up the fact that you are saving gas with a bike (more money for college), you have taken the motorcycle course ( I hope you have) which shows responsibility, the fact that you will be on a 250 not a 600 or 1000 (which shows your not on a bike that would be over your head in experience), that you will be wearing proper gear, and the fact that your parents are OK with it and they are more strick with you than school is.

Don't mention that the girls will think you're the coolest guy in school, that they all will want a ride, or that you will be riding them (some on the bike).

[wtfh4xx]

Yea, I cant see hwo you would need the principles permission.
Its a public school correct? Means public grounds and you can park your vehicle as a student (get a permit if they require one) on those grounds.
It shouldnt matter if its a MC or cage.

[kkim]

I don't understand... what legal right would the principal have to say how you come to school? why does this even matter? has it been an issue in the past at your school? if not, I think you're making an issue out of a non issue.

[bdavison]

If you are a legally licensed rider, then i dont see what the principal has anything to say about it. Your principal has no guardian or legal authority to tell you what vehicle you can or cannot operate. Thats between you, the state, your guardian, and the DMV.

The principal should stick with what they were hired to do and manage students, pencils, and paper and stay out of your choice of vehicles. If the principle cant handle that then maybe he/she should rethink the choice of job and go work for the DMV instead.

I wouldnt explain anything, id tell him/her that i will be riding a motorcycle to school, and thats the end of it.

[backinthesaddleagain]

As the OP said its a private school so the principal could dictate certain policies. I think Dave has a good response for the OP.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by backinthesaddleagain

As the OP said its a private school so the principal could dictate certain policies. I think Dave has a good response for the OP.

yep, I missed that it was a private school when I read the original post.

[backinthesaddleagain]

yes Kelly, wonder though if principal has even said anything

[Live2ride]

I went to public school but I'd imagine that making an appointment to speak with her about it would be a plus (ie. don't simply walk in while the principal may be busy). Explain to her that you're trying to become a more self sufficient person by purchasing your own vehicle and that, by her allowing you to ride to school, it could prove to become a great learning experience for you. Also, you may want your parent(s) to go to the appointment with you as a way of insuring your principal that they are allowing you to purchase the vehicle and trust you enough to ride responsibly. Good luck .

[bdavison]

This is one of those cases where its better to ask forgiveness than ask for permission.

Its none of their business what you drive.
Going through a meeting and trying to explain your choice of vehicles isnt going to get you very far, and will probably end up creating the problem you were trying to avoid.

[rusninja]

You would think as long as your parents let you its not the schools problem. They let you go home alone right, They dont make your parents come pick you up? So how you get home is your choice.

[rusninja]

woops delete please :S

[Liber]

Does the principal put a lot of weight on being eco-conscious? Whether you agree with it or not, a powerful argument is that a bike gets better fuel economy than most hybrids.

[GodlyTroop]

--Update--So i went into talk to the principal today, she gave me a no from the very beginning she said she was worried about safety, she said she cant control who gets on the bike, i said it only has one seat and i have the key, what else,, she tried to act like my parent really, how its more dangerous and i realize that and im willing to take the risk. I even offered to park off campus and she still said no, how in the world does she have the right to say no to that i dont understand. can anybody offer any legal help, this is ridiculous!

[armatt06]

Thats ridiculous. I went to a private school and just rode mine several days. I never asked. I only got a few glares from administrators, but I think thats because it was so loud. Besides that, there were never any issues.

[GodlyTroop]

oh yeah and she said i had bad character for wanting a motorcycle, try to figure that one out

[Liber]

Park off campus and walk on. I would really like to see her stop you. Then again, having gone to private school at one point in life, I'm well aware of the power principals wield. Tread lightly.

[GodlyTroop]

She said i couldnt do that, i know people that live around the school so i could definitively do that but she said no

[Blackwidow]

wait, you're profile says you're from Los Angeles, thats part of the United States...where the hell did your principle get the idea she has any say in what you operate? This isn't a freaking foreign country where teachers have a right to hit students or tell students what they are allowed to do. You made the wrong decision telling her in the first place. You just automatically gave her permission to have a voice in your and your parents decisions.

If I were you and just ride it to school and park in a legal spot. If she says anything i'd have my parents come in and put her in place.

[CmichRider]

Quit the football team and boycott until she changes her ways. :P

[Liber]

Paulette, private schools are a different matter than public schools. Principals in private schools can dictate much easier than their public school counterparts.

You don't want to make an enemy out of these people as they can truly make your life miserable. zero tolerance is often seen as a key to the success of their students. If you get your parents involved they might have to threaten legal action if the prinicpal tries to stop you. If it goes that far, all I have to say is some battles are not worth fighting.

Is this a Catholic school? If so, I would take it up with the super-intendent or maybe the priest(s) assigned to the school. If that doesn't work, you could try talking to the Bishop, but I doubt he would hear such a minor case, unless your parents have pull.

[GodlyTroop]

Its not Catholic luckily lol

[PsychoNinja]

I would check your school's policy to see if there is anything in their policy that prevents you from driving/parking a motorcycle on school property. If there is nothing in their policy, they can do NOTHING to you if you ride your motorcycle to school.

[Blackwidow]

then go get yourself a bicycle...whats the point of arguing with someone that apparently has their mind made up?

[Liber]

Originally Posted by GodlyTroop

Its not Catholic luckily lol

luckily? Your chances would have been better if it were.

Is the school non-profit or profit? Is it part of a network of schools under one owner, or is it a franchise or is it completely independent?

[GodlyTroop]

independent

[Liber]

Originally Posted by Blackwidow

then go get yourself a bicycle...whats the point of arguing with someone that apparently has their mind made up?

I'm sure it's the principal () of the thing!

[Liber]

Originally Posted by GodlyTroop

independent

Then unless she is letting someone else ride to school, I think you are screwed. Sure you could carry this to court, and being Cali, you might win, but is it REALLY worth the trouble?

I agree with Paulette, get a bicycle or get a cage.

[almost40]

Originally Posted by GodlyTroop

Its not Catholic luckily lol

Rode my bike to my Catholic highschool when the weather permitted. My parents paid my tuition. Therfore they were in charge.
Sorry Dude, should not have asked and just rode to school. If there was an problem I would have said talk to my parents.

[Liber]

Originally Posted by almost40

Rode my bike to my Catholic highschool when the weather permitted. My parents paid my tuition. Therfore they were in charge.
Sorry Dude, should not have asked and just rode to school. If there was an problem I would have said talk to my parents.

yeh, you get points for trying to be a good student and asking for permission, but like everyone else has pointed out, sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than for permission.

Try being a little more irresponsible next time

[bdavison]

Something smells fishy here. I think there is something you arent telling us?

1. Where are your parents in all this? If your legal guardians have given you permission to ride a motorcycle, and you are legally operating it, then your parents need to go have a talk with your principle, and explain in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that you will be travelling to and from school on your legally operated vehicle.

2. The principle has no legal authority to tell you what you can or cannot do off campus.

3. The principle does have the right to tell you that you cannot bring a motorcycle onto school property. Its private property, and unwanted persons or vehicles can be considered trespassing.

4. If you cant resolve this to your satisfaction, its time for your parents and you to choose a different school, and make sure that your current school understands that the reason they are about to lose you as a paying student, and football player, is because of their prejudice against you, and your choice of vehicle.

The statement she made of "bad character" demonstrates that she has preconcieved prejudices against motorcyclists. She crossed the line with that comment. Its time to get your parents involved.

Judging by your profile pic, you are obviously a good student to be on the football team. How she could say "bad charecter" to a student that has proven their responsible by performing excellent in academics and made the football team shows she is a idiot and not fit to be serving a roll in any education capacity.

[GodlyTroop]

all i know is as soon as i get out of* (sorry lol) high school im going to get a motorcycle,, into college

[Liber]

get into? how old are you? whats the driving age in Cali?

[rockNroll]

Originally Posted by GodlyTroop

all i know is as soon as i get into high school im going to get a motorcycle

[Blackwidow]

Originally Posted by Liber

I agree with Paulette, get a bicycle or get a cage.

as much as I love hearing that you agree with me, what happened to your principals () of things

[Blackwidow]

P.S. I think this entire thread is Bullshyt! I don't know of any young kid that gives two shyts about what school principals think as long as parents are cool with it.

[CThunder-blue]

Driving age is 16 with a license in CA, but it's expensive since you have to take mandatory classes and stuff. At 18, you just need to go pass the DMV exams. Since he's not in HS yet, he's probably under age. From his first post, he doesn't have a motorcycle yet either.

[GodlyTroop]

--im 17 jr in high school lol i didnt check my work--

[almost40]

A jr high football team?? Give the guy a break. He looks a little big to be 14
Talk to your parents and have them talk to your principal.
good luck