Model sections forum name

Lychee · September 24th, 2012, 12:03 PM

Could the frequently used nicknames be added to the section names?

Pregen - 88-07
Newgen - 08-12
Supergen??? - 13-present

Or maybe

First / Second Generation, 86 - 07
Third Generation, 08 - 12
Fourth Generation 13 - present

Alex · September 24th, 2012, 12:21 PM

At some point, but we first need to come up with what sub-nickname we want to use for the new 300's. I think it will work itself out on its own over time. pre-gen/new-gen made so much sense in 2008. This one is a little harder, going from new-gen to what next...

psych0hans · September 24th, 2012, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

At some point, but we first need to come up with what sub-nickname we want to use for the new 300's. I think it will work itself out on its own over time. pre-gen/new-gen made so much sense in 2008. This one is a little harder, going from new-gen to what next...

Just stick to the years and keep it simple

86-07
08-12
13+

Jiggles · September 24th, 2012, 12:25 PM

My vote is pregen/newgen/supergen or just 300s since it is obvious what bike you have if you say 300 but not obvious what bike you have if you say 250

Jiggles · September 24th, 2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

Just stick to the years and keep it simple

86-07
08-12
13+

Too much pinky stretch

Alex · September 24th, 2012, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

Just stick to the years and keep it simple

86-07
08-12
13+

Yes, that's what it says currently on the main forums page. I think the request was to add the nicknames in addition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

My vote is pregen/newgen/supergen or just 300s since it is obvious what bike you have if you say 300 but not obvious what bike you have if you say 250

I'm fond of "supergen" as well, though I appreciate its corniness.

choneofakind · September 24th, 2012, 03:55 PM

someone better put a cape on their 300, making it a true supergen (at least for the time it took to take a picture)

Lychee · September 24th, 2012, 03:59 PM

And slap a copyright infringing red & yellow decal showing the letter of the day?

Lychee · September 24th, 2012, 04:00 PM

Maybe
pregen
newgen
300

Jiggles · September 24th, 2012, 04:01 PM

Stop recycling my ideas

choneofakind · September 24th, 2012, 04:01 PM

Like this guy:

definitely my favorite Sesame Street character

thurt88 · September 24th, 2012, 04:07 PM

Just do it like any other forum would on any other bike.
1st gen, 2nd gen 3rd gen etc. Its alot easier

choneofakind · September 24th, 2012, 04:09 PM

But the thing is, it's not the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gens. It's going to confuse people that way because there's always gonna be some newb who calls their pregen a 1st gen, and then someone (not naming names here) is going to pop up and say, "WELL TECHNICALLY it's actually a 3rd gen". Or whatever.

CZroe · September 29th, 2012, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lychee

Maybe
pregen
newgen
300

Can't because there are 2013+ 250s that are the same "gen" as the 300 and no more different than carb, cali-carb, and FI was in the last gen.

Jiggles · September 29th, 2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

Can't because there are 2013+ 250s that are the same "gen" as the 300 and no more different than carb, cali-carb, and FI was in the last gen.

So then we will have 300s, or supergen 300 if you want to get technical, and supergen 250s

CZroe · October 22nd, 2012, 07:43 PM

Something to do with it being the newgen's successor. "Sucgen?"

Jiggles would like that.

Seriously, though: considering the line's long history, the "newgen" will be comparatively "new" for a long time. We can continue calling it "newgen" if we can find something appropriate for the EX250L and EX300A. I don't like "supergen" because there's nothing "super" about the EX250L vs the EX250K newgen.

Pregen. Newgen. Nexgen.

Of course, that'll put us in a real pickle when the EX250M and EX300C/EX300D hit, so we should make a concerted effort to gravitate to 250 E-series, F-series, H-series, J/K-series, L-series, 300 A-series, etc naming conventions.

Jiggles · October 22nd, 2012, 07:44 PM

Nexgen is not bad but I still like supergen, cuz it looks like a damn supersport

psych0hans · October 22nd, 2012, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Nexgen is not bad but I still like supergen, cuz it looks like a damn supersport

You say it like its a bad thing...

Jiggles · October 22nd, 2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psych0hans

You say it like its a bad thing...

I don't want my ninjette to look like my 1000. Probably the biggest reason I won't get a 300 is because of the way it looks. I will slap a 300 in my 250 though if I can

CZroe · October 22nd, 2012, 07:59 PM

Forum categories could be:
Classic 250R - The previous generations including 1986-1987 EX250E, 1988-2007 "pregen" EX250F, and Canadian EX250H
Modern 250R - The first of the new generation including 2008-2012 "newgen" EX250J and EX250K
Current 250R and Ninja 300 - The latest, current generation including the 2013+ Ninja 300 and "superUnregisteredgen" EX250L

Jiggles · October 22nd, 2012, 08:11 PM

On your mark, get set, terrible

choneofakind · October 22nd, 2012, 08:55 PM

Jiggles, you've been grasping at straws lately to come up with random reasons to hate on the new bike. Someone's majorly jelly.

Jiggles · October 22nd, 2012, 10:36 PM

Ahem if you will scroll through my post history you will notice that my original distaste in the supergen design goes back to when the 2013 250 was released. I'm simply restating a previous and valid point.

psych0hans · October 22nd, 2012, 11:03 PM

Pregen, postgen, currentgen...

Jiggles · October 22nd, 2012, 11:05 PM

FrugalNinja250 · October 23rd, 2012, 04:22 AM

I like "extragen" myself. Nextgen is Star Trek. Also there was a prepregen sold in the Japanese market.

choneofakind · October 23rd, 2012, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Ahem if you will scroll through my post history you will notice that my original distaste in the supergen design goes back to when the 2013 250 was released. I'm simply restating a previous and valid point.

Yes I know you have disliked it the whole time. You're the only one (well, not the only one. You're in n4mwd's company on this one) who is still belligerently knocking the new bike without riding it.

Jiggles · October 23rd, 2012, 10:12 AM

I thought he wants one. Anyway, akima sides with me and she is queen so nana na booboo

ai4px · October 23rd, 2012, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lychee

Could the frequently used nicknames be added to the section names?

Pregen - 88-07
Newgen - 08-12
Supergen??? - 13-present

Or maybe

First / Second Generation, 86 - 07
Third Generation, 08 - 12
Fourth Generation 13 - present

Aren't the years 08-12 now called pre-gen?

Jiggles · October 23rd, 2012, 10:20 AM

No

alex.s · October 23rd, 2012, 10:53 AM

pregen

newgen

(this is) SPARTAgen.

Jiggles · October 23rd, 2012, 11:35 AM

^ and that kids is how you come up with a good idea

CZroe · October 23rd, 2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrugalNinja250

I like "extragen" myself. Nextgen is Star Trek. Also there was a prepregen sold in the Japanese market.

Uhh, the "E" model was sold here too. Basically, it never had and doesn't need a distinguishing nickname. Any EX250-series bike before E wasn't even a "Ninja."

Also, next-gen was batted around a lot in the '90s when it came to game consoles and computer tech. "Nexgen" wasn't (no T).

r6boater · October 23rd, 2012, 07:27 PM

Please forgive my ninja250 noobness, but what's wrong with:

Gen 1
Gen 2
Gen 3

?

alex.s · October 23rd, 2012, 07:33 PM

There is like 5 generations.

Suggest we take a poll

All in favor of spartagen...

choneofakind · October 23rd, 2012, 09:09 PM

Aye!

CZroe · October 24th, 2012, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

There is like 5 generations.

Suggest we take a poll

All in favor of spartagen...

When I hear "Sparta Generation," I think "oldest generation predating combustion engines by thousands of years."

Jiggles · October 24th, 2012, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

When I hear "Sparta Generation," I think "oldest generation predating combustion engines by thousands of years."

Old Guy on a '08 · October 26th, 2012, 05:26 AM

The 300 by definition can't be a GEN casue it's NOT a twofiddy...

CZroe · October 26th, 2012, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Guy on a '08

The 300 by definition can't be a GEN casue it's NOT a twofiddy...

It's not a generation of 250, but it is a generation of Ninjette, which always refers to Kawasaki's smallest available Ninja in a given market. The European fuel-injected 2008 EX250K was the same generation as the US carb'd 2008 EX250J. We called them both "newgen." The 2013 EX300A is easily as much the same as the new-newgen 2013 EX250L. They don't share the same markets, just like before, but the two TOGETHER need a name every bit as much.

I'm starting to like pregen, newgen, and newgen-A/B/L (or newgen'13). They're both "new" compared to the 25-year-old and 20-year-long generation! Granted, "newgen-A" and "newgen-B" will not get used much because there is no confusion when you say "300," but it doesn't need to be until we get to a new generation 300 and we can already use it to distinguish ABS bikes from non-ABS when we need to. It's not like the terms "pregen" and "newgen" ever completely replaced referencing the exact model, year, or generation by year ("'08+"). When needed, we can slowly start calling the 2008-2012 bikes newgen-J or newgen-K as well, but "newgen" without specifying will still refer to anything newer than 2007 with the assumption that it usually refers to J/K. We can even retcon the '86/'87 E-series as "pregen-E" and the Canadian H-series as "pregen-H."

September 24th, 2012, 12:03 PM	#1
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	Model sections forum name Could the frequently used nicknames be added to the section names? Pregen - 88-07 Newgen - 08-12 Supergen??? - 13-present Or maybe First / Second Generation, 86 - 07 Third Generation, 08 - 12 Fourth Generation 13 - present

September 24th, 2012, 12:21 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	At some point, but we first need to come up with what sub-nickname we want to use for the new 300's. I think it will work itself out on its own over time. pre-gen/new-gen made so much sense in 2008. This one is a little harder, going from new-gen to what next... __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 24th, 2012, 12:25 PM	#4
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September 24th, 2012, 04:01 PM	#10
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Stop recycling my ideas __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 22nd, 2012, 07:44 PM	#17
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Nexgen is not bad but I still like supergen, cuz it looks like a damn supersport __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 24th, 2012, 03:55 PM	#7
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	someone better put a cape on their 300, making it a true supergen (at least for the time it took to take a picture)

September 24th, 2012, 03:59 PM	#8
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	And slap a copyright infringing red & yellow decal showing the letter of the day?

September 24th, 2012, 04:00 PM	#9
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	Maybe pregen newgen 300

September 24th, 2012, 04:01 PM	#11
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Like this guy: definitely my favorite Sesame Street character

September 24th, 2012, 04:07 PM	#12
thurt88 ninjette.org guru Name: Tommy Location: Missouri Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Honda CRF250L, 2010 ninja 250r Posts: 413	Just do it like any other forum would on any other bike. 1st gen, 2nd gen 3rd gen etc. Its alot easier

September 24th, 2012, 04:09 PM	#13
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	But the thing is, it's not the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gens. It's going to confuse people that way because there's always gonna be some newb who calls their pregen a 1st gen, and then someone (not naming names here) is going to pop up and say, "WELL TECHNICALLY it's actually a 3rd gen". Or whatever.

October 22nd, 2012, 07:43 PM	#16
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Something to do with it being the newgen's successor. "Sucgen?" Jiggles would like that. Seriously, though: considering the line's long history, the "newgen" will be comparatively "new" for a long time. We can continue calling it "newgen" if we can find something appropriate for the EX250L and EX300A. I don't like "supergen" because there's nothing "super" about the EX250L vs the EX250K newgen. Pregen. Newgen. Nexgen. Of course, that'll put us in a real pickle when the EX250M and EX300C/EX300D hit, so we should make a concerted effort to gravitate to 250 E-series, F-series, H-series, J/K-series, L-series, 300 A-series, etc naming conventions.

October 22nd, 2012, 07:59 PM	#20
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Forum categories could be: Classic 250R - The previous generations including 1986-1987 EX250E, 1988-2007 "pregen" EX250F, and Canadian EX250H Modern 250R - The first of the new generation including 2008-2012 "newgen" EX250J and EX250K Current 250R and Ninja 300 - The latest, current generation including the 2013+ Ninja 300 and "superUnregisteredgen" EX250L

October 22nd, 2012, 08:11 PM	#21
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	On your mark, get set, terrible __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 22nd, 2012, 08:55 PM	#22
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Jiggles, you've been grasping at straws lately to come up with random reasons to hate on the new bike. Someone's majorly jelly.

October 22nd, 2012, 10:36 PM	#23
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Ahem if you will scroll through my post history you will notice that my original distaste in the supergen design goes back to when the 2013 250 was released. I'm simply restating a previous and valid point. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 22nd, 2012, 11:03 PM	#24
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	Pregen, postgen, currentgen... __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

October 22nd, 2012, 11:05 PM	#25
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	__________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 23rd, 2012, 04:22 AM	#26
FrugalNinja250 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Frugal Location: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: A lot.	I like "extragen" myself. Nextgen is Star Trek. Also there was a prepregen sold in the Japanese market.

October 23rd, 2012, 10:12 AM	#28
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I thought he wants one. Anyway, akima sides with me and she is queen so nana na booboo __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 23rd, 2012, 10:20 AM	#30
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	No __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 23rd, 2012, 10:53 AM	#31
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	pregen newgen (this is) SPARTAgen. __________________________________________________

October 23rd, 2012, 11:35 AM	#32
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	^ and that kids is how you come up with a good idea __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

October 23rd, 2012, 07:27 PM	#34
r6boater ninjette.org member Name: Kurt Location: Knoxville Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '04 R1 and '08 Ninja 250 Posts: 222	Please forgive my ninja250 noobness, but what's wrong with: Gen 1 Gen 2 Gen 3 ?

October 23rd, 2012, 07:33 PM	#35
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	There is like 5 generations. Suggest we take a poll All in favor of spartagen... __________________________________________________

October 23rd, 2012, 09:09 PM	#36
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Aye!

October 26th, 2012, 05:26 AM	#39
Old Guy on a '08 Chris Name: Chris Location: Charlotte, NC near UNCC Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): BLACK!!! '08 250R Posts: 957	The 300 by definition can't be a GEN casue it's NOT a twofiddy... __________________________________________________ Some roads are too good to waste on four wheels! Riding in a car is like watching a movie... Riding on a motorcycle is like being in one....

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