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Old Guy on a '08 · October 26th, 2012, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

It's not a generation of 250, but it is a generation of Ninjette, which always refers to Kawasaki's smallest available Ninja in a given market. ...

I'll give you that, but if there is a

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

...2013 EX250L. ...

Then the 300 is not the smallest available, and therefor not a Ninjette (and the Kaw website still shows the NewGen 250 as an available model here in the US - or are they just "leftover" 2012 250's???).

But let's not let ourselves get wrapped around the axle... I'm anxious to get my hands on the 300 (whatever we end up calling it - and my vote goes for calling it a "doublenaught" [use the 3 prefix if you must but not necessary until they make a 200????] because of the FI (and the increased HP) and the ABS.

CZroe · October 26th, 2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Guy on a '08

I'll give you that, but if there is a

Then the 300 is not the smallest available, and therefor not a Ninjette (and the Kaw website still shows the NewGen 250 as an available model here in the US - or are they just "leftover" 2012 250's???).

But let's not let ourselves get wrapped around the axle... I'm anxious to get my hands on the 300 (whatever we end up calling it - and my vote goes for calling it a "doublenaught" [use the 3 prefix if you must but not necessary until they make a 200????] because of the FI (and the increased HP) and the ABS.

Yes, the 250R bikes that are still available here are leftover 2012 bikes (says 2012 at the top of the page if you click). The 2013 EX250L looks exactly like an EX300, which is what I meant by them having as much in common with each other as the EX250J and EX250K "newgens" had between themselves.

Yeah, this whole thread is silly, but I'm all in.

Old Guy on a '08 · October 26th, 2012, 11:50 AM

so can a EX250L (w/FI????) be had in the states???

CZroe · October 26th, 2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Guy on a '08

so can a EX250L (w/FI????) be had in the states???

Nope. Only in markets where they can't sell the 300 to the same buyers (graduated licensing, displacement limits, etc). But we are an international forum so it will be discussed over the years. We discussed it plenty after the Indonesian launch event, before the 300 was announced.

Jiggles · October 26th, 2012, 11:56 AM

yea but now no one gives 2 shits about a 2013 250

choneofakind · October 26th, 2012, 11:00 PM

'cept the indo guys who are stuck with it due to their laws, after rubbing it in our faces about having it unveiled first

CZroe · October 27th, 2012, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

'cept the indo guys who are stuck with it due to their laws, after rubbing it in our faces about having it unveiled first

They actually aren't the only ones.

CynicalC · November 2nd, 2012, 04:27 PM

They're first, second and third gen. How can that be so complicated?

CZroe · November 2nd, 2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CynicalC

They're first, second and third gen. How can that be so complicated?

Because they AREN'T first, second, and third gen. Lots of people on these forums have EX250E, which is before what you are calling "first gen" and even more have EX250H, which is between what you call "first" and "second gen." Also, the 2013 EX300A/B is the *first* gen Ninja 300, though the related 2013 EX250L is at least the fifth gen EX250. A name for the FI 2013 Ninjette, be it EX250 or EX300, must apply to either and it can't do that with a numeric generational designation.

If there was anything in the EX250 series before the EX250E then it was before the "Ninja" line officially existed, so it doesn't need a name because it's not a Ninjette.

CynicalC · November 5th, 2012, 07:03 PM

Define "lots"

CZroe · November 5th, 2012, 08:38 PM

The Internet has-many-ways to say "a lot."

Over 9,000.
Many.
A few.
Several.
One Metric Asston.

Anyway, no matter how similar, a first gen 300 can't be a 3rd-gen 250, so we can't just ignore the outliers even if they are comparatively few.

Edit:

Link to original page on YouTube.

October 26th, 2012, 11:50 AM	#43
Old Guy on a '08 Chris Name: Chris Location: Charlotte, NC near UNCC Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): BLACK!!! '08 250R Posts: 957	so can a EX250L (w/FI????) be had in the states??? __________________________________________________ Some roads are too good to waste on four wheels! Riding in a car is like watching a movie... Riding on a motorcycle is like being in one....

October 26th, 2012, 11:56 AM	#45
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	yea but now no one gives 2 shits about a 2013 250 __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 2nd, 2012, 04:27 PM	#48
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	They're first, second and third gen. How can that be so complicated? __________________________________________________ Ç¥ñï©ª\| ßÿ Ñâ7µ®é. Äñt¡~§º¢Ïä\| ßý Çhøî©è.

November 5th, 2012, 07:03 PM	#50
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October 26th, 2012, 11:00 PM	#46
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	'cept the indo guys who are stuck with it due to their laws, after rubbing it in our faces about having it unveiled first

November 5th, 2012, 08:38 PM	#51
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	The Internet has-many-ways to say "a lot." Over 9,000. Many. A few. Several. One Metric Asston. Anyway, no matter how similar, a first gen 300 can't be a 3rd-gen 250, so we can't just ignore the outliers even if they are comparatively few. Edit: Link to original page on YouTube.