March 22nd, 2010, 12:35 PM | #1 |
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Oil Filter Aggravation
So since my local small engine shop (where I get K&N) is closed after work and the dealer is closed today. I go to NAPA and get a PS4941. I then go to walmart to get Rotella Syn. They don't have it at my walmart. While in the car I open the oil filter. The filter is stamped with part number PS4941 but the o-rings (which aren't in a package) are are both large and almost the same size as each other. At least one of them must be wrong.
On the way back to work I stop by pep boys and get the Rotella T6 syn for $19.99. I believe that is their latest version. I will search other threads to be sure. I decide to grab a purolator ML16812 while there. Like an idiot I don't think to open the box. When I get to work I open it. The filter and oring package say MF012. And the filter is larger than the PS4941. MF012 is 2 1/4" tall by 3" wide, while PF4941 is 2 1/8" tall and 2 1/8" wide Now I am like what the heck do I have here and is any of it usable. If I have to go buy a 3rd filter tomorrow I will scream. Guess I won't know until I get home and try to match things up to whats in the bike now. And of course neither NAPA nor Pep Boys had a close fit on the crush washer. Last futzed with by backinthesaddleagain; March 23rd, 2010 at 07:14 AM. Reason: more info |
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March 22nd, 2010, 03:07 PM | #2 |
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Went back to pep boys. Looks like all of the filter are stamped with a different part nbr. Does anyone have an unused filter they can measure? Though I will probably drain the oil and pull the filter tonight. If filters and orings are wrong then hit dealer tomorrow.
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March 22nd, 2010, 03:14 PM | #3 |
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Went back to pep boys. Looks like all of the filter are stamped with a different part nbr. Does anyone have an unused filter they can measure? Though I will probably drain the oil and pull the filter tonight. If filters and orings are wrong then hit dealer tomorrow.
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March 22nd, 2010, 03:17 PM | #4 |
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That's a lot of hassle just to buy an oil filter. Do you have a local Cycle Gear? They carry the K&N for our bikes.
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March 22nd, 2010, 03:28 PM | #5 |
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Well I was impatient and monday local store and dealer are closed.
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March 22nd, 2010, 05:51 PM | #6 |
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I make it a habit now to open the box to make sure the filter matches what is says on the box and that the o-rings are there.
Good luck in your search.
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March 22nd, 2010, 06:07 PM | #7 |
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I have a Fram CH6012, which has the proper O rings and is known to fit. It measures 3 inches in diameter and 2 1/4 tall.
The filter and the oring package are stamped MF012, just like your Purolator
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March 22nd, 2010, 09:25 PM | #8 | |
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The NAPA PS4941 was the wrong size (filter and o-rings). I believe Sam (G21-30) also pointed this out in a previous post. Reused the crush washer for the first time as it didnt look that bad. Not a financial decision, but rather 3 auto parts stores had nothing the same size or material. Now how many OCD times will I be looking under the bike for an oil leak. Last futzed with by backinthesaddleagain; March 22nd, 2010 at 09:29 PM. Reason: more info |
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March 22nd, 2010, 09:59 PM | #9 |
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Interesting that some other bike forums have threads where the NAPA PS4941 is the wrong size and has the wrong o-rings. Went to their website clicked on the 4941 and it has the proper measurements and o-rings look right (one big, one small). Maybe some other filters got stamped 4941 and put in a 4941 box. BTW the box was much too big for the filter.
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March 22nd, 2010, 10:13 PM | #10 |
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lol... somebody asleep at the oil filter factory?
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March 23rd, 2010, 03:43 AM | #11 |
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I've used the NAPA PS4941 my last two oil changes, it's been fine. Both times it's had the correct O-rings for the baseplate and the bolt.
I did not measure them, but the 1/8" tall difference you are measuring would be no big deal the spring will take up the slack. As long as the inner diameter of the rubber grommets are the right size for the bolt it will work. I know when I last changed mine the spring must have collapsed 1/4" or more. |
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March 23rd, 2010, 06:13 AM | #12 | |
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March 23rd, 2010, 06:46 AM | #13 |
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I've used both the napa PS4941 and the Fram CH6012 and they both are the right size.
Did you take the PS4941 back to Napa? Tell them to look into it. If they find more mispackaged filters, they can charge them back to their supplier, and get replacements.
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March 23rd, 2010, 07:07 AM | #14 | |
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Probably something that happens all the time. If hospitals can operate on the wrong side of someone, then someone can mark a filter with the wrong part number and put it in the wrong box. |
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March 24th, 2010, 04:25 PM | #15 |
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I just picked up a K&N from cycle gear today, it cost me almost $11. Thats more than I spent on two qts of rotella.
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March 25th, 2010, 06:09 AM | #16 |
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My local small engine shop was 6.95, now 7.95 for the K&N.
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March 27th, 2010, 01:28 PM | #17 | |
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Fortunately, Discount Auto Parts had one. And I mean just one. |
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March 27th, 2010, 07:28 PM | #18 |
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Thats still a good price, even 11 is a good price compared to what the dealer charged me for the oil filter on my first oil change. They charged me 10 for the filter and 7 for the gaskets that come with every other oil filter. Did I mention they charged me 217 dollars for the oil change. Yeah I was going through some old paperwork last night, and I got mad all over again.
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March 29th, 2010, 08:11 AM | #19 |
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I bought a pack of WIX 24941 filters on RockAuto.com. With shipping, it came out to $5.86 a filter.
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June 28th, 2010, 05:41 PM | #20 |
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just put a "Wixer" 24941 in my 2010 250, it worked like a charm, 7.49 at the local auto shop...highly recommended.
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