Carrying a firearm on a motorcycle

Rifleman · April 13th, 2015, 09:34 AM

For those of you who are licensed to carry a concealed firearm...

is there anything special you do when on your motorcycle, specifically a more "sport" type bike senario. (yes the cruiser and tour style people may have more "secure storage" then the sport/hyper sport types)

Just wondering, may be a problem/situation i might (or might not) have to deal with now... or some time in the future...

I can neither confirm, nor deny...

LNasty · April 13th, 2015, 10:00 AM

I have used a hip holster, but got uncomfortable and awkward while riding. Others I know use a shoulder strap harness holster, while some carry a compact and just put in their front pocket. I have a First Gear tank bag that would work perfectly as well, they are about $40.

Or you could just sell the 250, buy a Harley and get this......

http://mcvests.com/gun-vest-side-laces/

Ghostt · April 13th, 2015, 12:04 PM

I keep mine when riding in my Rapid Transit Recon19 tank bag, then holster once I get to my destination.

http://www.rapid-transit.com/Products/Recon19.htm

cbinker · April 13th, 2015, 02:23 PM

i picked up a 5.11 holster shirt. love it

cadd · April 13th, 2015, 02:50 PM

It's also on a state by state basis. I know that the people's republic of California is rough. New Commie Jersey is almost just as tough.

By law, we must not deviate from home to our place of business or to shooting range with firearms in vehicle. That means no gas stop. No stopping for coffee or lunch.

Also, all mags must be unloaded. Ammo and firearm cannot be kept together. One must be in the cabin while the other must be in the trunk. In cabin must be in a case. Not on your body.

So technically, if they stop you, they can get you easily if they wanted to. Felony charge right there!

I wouldn't even think about it on a bike. Get accidentally tasered. Or worse....the officer tries to take you and shoots you with a Glock 17 instead....thinking it was his teaser (anyone read the news about that one recently)?

It's pretty rough out here if you want to enjoy the #pewpew life out here. I'm envious of you guys in more friendly 2nd amendment States.

snot · April 13th, 2015, 03:57 PM

Inside pocket in my jacket.

Ghostt · April 13th, 2015, 04:01 PM

We have it easier here in the Bluegrass state, even if your caught carrying concealed, it a misdemeanor charge.

Now this is a fine example of A.T.G.A.T.T.

dcj13 · April 13th, 2015, 04:52 PM

That guy should have a rifle scabbard!

Ghostt · April 13th, 2015, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcj13

That guy should have a rifle scabbard!

Good call

Brother Michigan · April 13th, 2015, 04:57 PM

Getting the urge to take my motorcycle to the range.... (nvm, just remembered how expensive it is here in town.)

Ghostt · April 13th, 2015, 04:59 PM

That's why I love living in the middle of nowhere, I don't miss Lexington one bit.

My range is outside.

ftheshack · April 13th, 2015, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostt

I keep mine when riding in my Rapid Transit Recon19 tank bag, then holster once I get to my destination.

http://www.rapid-transit.com/Products/Recon19.htm

Same bag same routine.

flitecontrol · April 13th, 2015, 08:53 PM

The best secure firearm storage on a bike is in a lockable hard case.

A guy tossed out a NIB lockable metal cover for a wildlife camera. I lined it with several layers of foam exercise mat that was also put in the trash. Cut out the outline of my S&W Sigma 40 cal. and a spare clip. Holds the gun well, and vibration is minimal.

Haven't decided whether to bolt it to the floorboard of my truck or run a cable around it and a seat bracket.

Ghostt · April 13th, 2015, 08:58 PM

@flitecontrol how often you you leave you bike & firearm alone? Don't you holster it when your not on the bike?

flitecontrol · April 13th, 2015, 09:09 PM

So far, the gun has always stayed concealed in an interior jacket pocket. On a ride to Ohio and back last fall, I ran into several Waffle House restaurants that had No Guns Allowed signs on the door. Just turned around and took my business elsewhere. Not all Waffle Houses prohibit guns.

Ghostt · April 13th, 2015, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flitecontrol

So far, the gun has always stayed concealed in an interior jacket pocket. On a ride to Ohio and back last fall, I ran into several Waffle House restaurants that had No Guns Allowed signs on the door. Just turned around and took my business elsewhere. Not all Waffle Houses prohibit guns.

Know what you mean, I just ignore those signs, except on government buildings. I figure there's only one way they would ever find out, in a case like that, the violation would be be least of my worries.

liberpolly · April 13th, 2015, 11:38 PM

In case of a crash, a gun on your body can do some serious damage. Always in a tank bug.

liberpolly · April 13th, 2015, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostt

Know what you mean, I just ignore those signs, except on government buildings. I figure there's only one way they would ever find out, in a case like that, the violation would be be least of my worries.

I am with @flitecontrol on this one - it's not that I can't go in there, it's that I chose not to patronize them.

Ghostt · April 14th, 2015, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liberpolly

I am with @flitecontrol on this one - it's not that I can't go in there, it's that I chose not to patronize them.

Good point, plus there's always Dennys

EsrTek · April 14th, 2015, 05:48 AM

Love TN new law that states your 'domain' is carried over to vehicle and we do not need C&C's to bring loaded gun in vehicle!

That said on a bike you have to have it in a bag tank/tail/saddle you can not have it in a holster on your person w/o a C&C.

I keep my SCCI 9mm in tail bag w clip in and nothing in chamber (mainly just goin to range, I do not take it on normal rides).

alex.s · April 14th, 2015, 07:07 AM

i like the idea of keeping it in a tank bag. i would not want to come off the bike with a loaded weapon on me. even a pocket knife would be a nono in my mind. weird stuff happens when you come off the bike, especially if a car is involved

Ghostt · April 14th, 2015, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i like the idea of keeping it in a tank bag. i would not want to come off the bike with a loaded weapon on me. even a pocket knife would be a nono in my mind. weird stuff happens when you come off the bike, especially if a car is involved

adouglas · April 14th, 2015, 08:10 AM

So you crash and your tank bag spills… gun goes flying…

Wonder what your liability would be if someone walked off with it?

Rifleman · April 14th, 2015, 08:58 AM

all of the above.

few things are of concern as I see it.

1. firearm becomes visible when state law requires "concealed"

2. AD during a "get off" or "wad up"

3. security and safety of the weapon in the even of an accident where you are transported from the scene ... tank bag, who has that tank bag now... on your person, hospital and EMT guys... who's in control of the weapon and is it secure?

4. on bike secure storage when entering a posted no carry area or GFZ

just wanted to see what you guys do, what you guys think.

Illinois just passed a CCW system January of 2014 so this is the first biking season after that for me.

summer clothes and on the bike... It's easy when you have your Carhartt's and truck to keep things out of sight... Armored jacket provides no "extra space" if you know what I mean.

spooph · April 14th, 2015, 08:59 AM

pocket knives, guns/holsters are all nice and hard to slide on and if properly worn shouldn't be a problem during a crash, especially not with proper protective gear....

My biggest issue is securing the gun to the bike if I have to go into a building which prohibits it - like a federal institution. I carry a cable gun lock under the passenger seat/cowl. Unload the gun, lock it through the barrel to the frame.

What if somebody steals the bike? Well, I'd hope nobody would be stupid enough to steal a vehicle from a law enforcement parking lot... But, then there is insurance (firearm insurance).

liberpolly · April 14th, 2015, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

So you crash and your tank bag spills… gun goes flying…

Wonder what your liability would be if someone walked off with it?

I'll take the chances vs. it breaking my ribs or something.

dcj13 · April 14th, 2015, 06:55 PM

WTF you need to carry a gun while you ride?

Don't mean to be a prude, mind you. Got a carry permit, myself, and used to have a FFL... Never felt the need to pack when I'm out enjoying a ride. Maybe the wild west is a more mellow place than where you are.

Rifleman · April 14th, 2015, 07:07 PM

I ride nearly everywhere I go in the summer, it's my commuter, it's what I take to run errands and the like...

I avoid the cage as much as possible. I'm not so much in need to carry as I ride, it's more about carry where I go.

dcj13 · April 14th, 2015, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifleman

I'm not so much in need to carry as I ride, it's more about carry where I go.

I guess I don't' go many places where I feel a need to pack.

Rifleman · April 14th, 2015, 07:24 PM

I don't wear a helmet because I think I'm going to crash.

I don't carry a firearm because I think I'm going some where unsafe (if I think it's unsafe, I don't go there).

I wear a helmet, and I carry a firearm so that I'm prepared for things that I don't expect to happen.

flitecontrol · April 14th, 2015, 07:45 PM

^ Well said.

cbinker · April 14th, 2015, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcj13

WTF you need to carry a gun while you ride?

Don't mean to be a prude, mind you. Got a carry permit, myself, and used to have a FFL... Never felt the need to pack when I'm out enjoying a ride. Maybe the wild west is a more mellow place than where you are.

you only have to be right one time.

csmith12 · April 15th, 2015, 06:54 AM

cbinker · April 15th, 2015, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmith12

and I thought I was the only one!

Rifleman · April 15th, 2015, 01:18 PM

all he needs now is "anti-fungal" Hoppe's #9

that is flat out Zimbabwe Institute of Technology engineering right there.

Ghostt · April 15th, 2015, 03:32 PM

Let us consider in the crash scenario, you crash, you could be unconscious?, in shock? Disoriented? Etc..... Who's to say just because your sidearm is on your person, it's going to be there? Safe? Accounted for? Etc... People do thing they shouldn't if given the opportunity to, like take wallets, and other personal items, firearms included.

Just my 2¢, I trust no one.

Let us NOT forget the Texas cafeteria shooting, how many had firearms they left in there vehicle? And what was the cost to have a law.

Then ask yourself, how the outcome might have been different? Put yourself and loved ones in that cafeteria on that day, and image.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/17/us...cafeteria.html

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_shooting

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp

Being from a law enforcement background myself, I'm non- trusting anyway, the only gun control I support is don't give them to idiots, but that's mostly impossible.

My only protection is to worry about what I have control over, I also carry a collapsible baton, for those cases that don't call for deadly force.

dcj13 · April 15th, 2015, 06:28 PM

I don't normally drink and ride.
I don't normally drink and pack a pistol.
I don't normally ride and pack a pistol.

You guys can do whatever you want to. Just be legal. And safe. And don't get injured or worse because of it.

Ghostt · April 15th, 2015, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcj13

I don't normally drink and ride.
I don't normally drink and pack a pistol.
I don't normally ride and pack a pistol.

You guys can do whatever you want to. Just be legal. And safe. And don't get injured or worse because of it.

Couldn't agree more

cbinker · April 15th, 2015, 07:53 PM

i think i should just stop taking chances, wrap myself in memory foam and never leave my bed room again.

Ghostt · April 16th, 2015, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbinker

i think i should just stop taking chances, wrap myself in memory foam and never leave my bed room again.

In that case I'll buy ALL your bikes off you to save you, how about $100.00, and I throw in some bubble wrap too?

April 13th, 2015, 09:34 AM	#1
Rifleman Old and slow Name: Lohman Location: Aiken, S.C. Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki TL1000R, Honda CBR600F3, Ninja 250 Posts: 889	Carrying a firearm on a motorcycle For those of you who are licensed to carry a concealed firearm... is there anything special you do when on your motorcycle, specifically a more "sport" type bike senario. (yes the cruiser and tour style people may have more "secure storage" then the sport/hyper sport types) Just wondering, may be a problem/situation i might (or might not) have to deal with now... or some time in the future... I can neither confirm, nor deny... __________________________________________________

April 13th, 2015, 12:04 PM	#3
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	I keep mine when riding in my Rapid Transit Recon19 tank bag, then holster once I get to my destination. http://www.rapid-transit.com/Products/Recon19.htm __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*
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April 13th, 2015, 02:23 PM	#4
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	i picked up a 5.11 holster shirt. love it __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

April 13th, 2015, 02:50 PM	#5
cadd cadd cadd cadd Name: Cadd Location: 41°21'13.1"N, 74°41'37.4"W Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): 300 Posts: A lot. MOTM - May '15	It's also on a state by state basis. I know that the people's republic of California is rough. New Commie Jersey is almost just as tough. By law, we must not deviate from home to our place of business or to shooting range with firearms in vehicle. That means no gas stop. No stopping for coffee or lunch. Also, all mags must be unloaded. Ammo and firearm cannot be kept together. One must be in the cabin while the other must be in the trunk. In cabin must be in a case. Not on your body. So technically, if they stop you, they can get you easily if they wanted to. Felony charge right there! I wouldn't even think about it on a bike. Get accidentally tasered. Or worse....the officer tries to take you and shoots you with a Glock 17 instead....thinking it was his teaser (anyone read the news about that one recently)? It's pretty rough out here if you want to enjoy the #pewpew life out here. I'm envious of you guys in more friendly 2nd amendment States. __________________________________________________ Riding it like I financed it.
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April 13th, 2015, 03:57 PM	#6
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	Inside pocket in my jacket. __________________________________________________ https://www.brocksperformance.com/VZ...0035+C450.aspx

April 13th, 2015, 10:00 AM	#2
LNasty Daily Jap rider Name: Lance Location: La Porte Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	I have used a hip holster, but got uncomfortable and awkward while riding. Others I know use a shoulder strap harness holster, while some carry a compact and just put in their front pocket. I have a First Gear tank bag that would work perfectly as well, they are about $40. Or you could just sell the 250, buy a Harley and get this...... http://mcvests.com/gun-vest-side-laces/

April 13th, 2015, 04:52 PM	#8
dcj13 Participant Name: Dave Location: South of Seattle Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '94 K75 std Posts: Too much. MOTM - Aug '15	That guy should have a rifle scabbard!
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April 13th, 2015, 04:57 PM	#10
Brother Michigan ninjette.org sage Name: Aaron Location: Winder, GA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 Posts: 718	Getting the urge to take my motorcycle to the range.... (nvm, just remembered how expensive it is here in town.) __________________________________________________ DISCLAIMER: I generally have no idea what I'm talking about.

April 13th, 2015, 04:59 PM	#11
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	That's why I love living in the middle of nowhere, I don't miss Lexington one bit. My range is outside. __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

April 13th, 2015, 08:53 PM	#13
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	The best secure firearm storage on a bike is in a lockable hard case. A guy tossed out a NIB lockable metal cover for a wildlife camera. I lined it with several layers of foam exercise mat that was also put in the trash. Cut out the outline of my S&W Sigma 40 cal. and a spare clip. Holds the gun well, and vibration is minimal. Haven't decided whether to bolt it to the floorboard of my truck or run a cable around it and a seat bracket. __________________________________________________ Profanity is the weapon of the witless.

April 13th, 2015, 08:58 PM	#14
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	@flitecontrol how often you you leave you bike & firearm alone? Don't you holster it when your not on the bike? __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

April 13th, 2015, 09:09 PM	#15
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	So far, the gun has always stayed concealed in an interior jacket pocket. On a ride to Ohio and back last fall, I ran into several Waffle House restaurants that had No Guns Allowed signs on the door. Just turned around and took my business elsewhere. Not all Waffle Houses prohibit guns. __________________________________________________ Profanity is the weapon of the witless.

April 13th, 2015, 11:38 PM	#17
liberpolly ninjette.org guru Name: Poul Location: Seattle Join Date: Jan 2015 Motorcycle(s): 1999 Triumph Legend "Arwen", 2006 Ninja 650 "Matsuo Hotaru". 2010 Ninja 250 "Firefly" - sold. Posts: 338	In case of a crash, a gun on your body can do some serious damage. Always in a tank bug. __________________________________________________ Screw the inscrutable, eff the ineffable.

April 14th, 2015, 05:48 AM	#20
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	Love TN new law that states your 'domain' is carried over to vehicle and we do not need C&C's to bring loaded gun in vehicle! That said on a bike you have to have it in a bag tank/tail/saddle you can not have it in a holster on your person w/o a C&C. I keep my SCCI 9mm in tail bag w clip in and nothing in chamber (mainly just goin to range, I do not take it on normal rides). __________________________________________________ My replies are intended for street riding only, plz do not provide track only replies. Visit my new MotoVlog Channel !!

April 14th, 2015, 07:07 AM	#21
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i like the idea of keeping it in a tank bag. i would not want to come off the bike with a loaded weapon on me. even a pocket knife would be a nono in my mind. weird stuff happens when you come off the bike, especially if a car is involved __________________________________________________
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April 14th, 2015, 08:58 AM	#24
Rifleman Old and slow Name: Lohman Location: Aiken, S.C. Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki TL1000R, Honda CBR600F3, Ninja 250 Posts: 889	all of the above. few things are of concern as I see it. 1. firearm becomes visible when state law requires "concealed" 2. AD during a "get off" or "wad up" 3. security and safety of the weapon in the even of an accident where you are transported from the scene ... tank bag, who has that tank bag now... on your person, hospital and EMT guys... who's in control of the weapon and is it secure? 4. on bike secure storage when entering a posted no carry area or GFZ just wanted to see what you guys do, what you guys think. Illinois just passed a CCW system January of 2014 so this is the first biking season after that for me. summer clothes and on the bike... It's easy when you have your Carhartt's and truck to keep things out of sight... Armored jacket provides no "extra space" if you know what I mean. __________________________________________________

April 14th, 2015, 08:59 AM	#25
spooph ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Spooph Location: Golden, CO Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '15	pocket knives, guns/holsters are all nice and hard to slide on and if properly worn shouldn't be a problem during a crash, especially not with proper protective gear.... My biggest issue is securing the gun to the bike if I have to go into a building which prohibits it - like a federal institution. I carry a cable gun lock under the passenger seat/cowl. Unload the gun, lock it through the barrel to the frame. What if somebody steals the bike? Well, I'd hope nobody would be stupid enough to steal a vehicle from a law enforcement parking lot... But, then there is insurance (firearm insurance). __________________________________________________ My therapist has 2 wheels and a seat. If you are ever in doubt to my tone, please refer to my avatar.

April 14th, 2015, 06:55 PM	#27
dcj13 Participant Name: Dave Location: South of Seattle Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '94 K75 std Posts: Too much. MOTM - Aug '15	WTF you need to carry a gun while you ride? Don't mean to be a prude, mind you. Got a carry permit, myself, and used to have a FFL... Never felt the need to pack when I'm out enjoying a ride. Maybe the wild west is a more mellow place than where you are.

April 14th, 2015, 07:07 PM	#28
Rifleman Old and slow Name: Lohman Location: Aiken, S.C. Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki TL1000R, Honda CBR600F3, Ninja 250 Posts: 889	I ride nearly everywhere I go in the summer, it's my commuter, it's what I take to run errands and the like... I avoid the cage as much as possible. I'm not so much in need to carry as I ride, it's more about carry where I go. __________________________________________________

April 14th, 2015, 07:24 PM	#30
Rifleman Old and slow Name: Lohman Location: Aiken, S.C. Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki TL1000R, Honda CBR600F3, Ninja 250 Posts: 889	I don't wear a helmet because I think I'm going to crash. I don't carry a firearm because I think I'm going some where unsafe (if I think it's unsafe, I don't go there). I wear a helmet, and I carry a firearm so that I'm prepared for things that I don't expect to happen. __________________________________________________
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April 14th, 2015, 07:45 PM	#31
flitecontrol ninjette.org guru Name: Lee Location: Monroe, LA Join Date: Feb 2014 Motorcycle(s): Rebel 250s, Ninja 250s VN750s (currently nine total) Posts: 465	^ Well said. __________________________________________________ Profanity is the weapon of the witless.

April 15th, 2015, 06:54 AM	#33
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April 15th, 2015, 01:18 PM	#35
Rifleman Old and slow Name: Lohman Location: Aiken, S.C. Join Date: May 2014 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki TL1000R, Honda CBR600F3, Ninja 250 Posts: 889	all he needs now is "anti-fungal" Hoppe's #9 that is flat out Zimbabwe Institute of Technology engineering right there. __________________________________________________
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April 15th, 2015, 03:32 PM	#36
Ghostt in your machine Name: Scott Location: Summer Shade, Ky. Join Date: Oct 2014 Motorcycle(s): 98 Ninja 250/F12 aka ZX-2R "SERENITY", 91 Ninja 500/A5 aka ZX-5R "Phoenix", 84 Honda GL1200A "SIREN" Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 25 MOTM - Jun '17, May '16, Mar '15	Let us consider in the crash scenario, you crash, you could be unconscious?, in shock? Disoriented? Etc..... Who's to say just because your sidearm is on your person, it's going to be there? Safe? Accounted for? Etc... People do thing they shouldn't if given the opportunity to, like take wallets, and other personal items, firearms included. Just my 2¢, I trust no one. Let us NOT forget the Texas cafeteria shooting, how many had firearms they left in there vehicle? And what was the cost to have a law. Then ask yourself, how the outcome might have been different? Put yourself and loved ones in that cafeteria on that day, and image. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/17/us...cafeteria.html http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_shooting http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp Being from a law enforcement background myself, I'm non- trusting anyway, the only gun control I support is don't give them to idiots, but that's mostly impossible. My only protection is to worry about what I have control over, I also carry a collapsible baton, for those cases that don't call for deadly force. __________________________________________________ *violente et ignorantia* ZX-2R BLOG *Twitter and Instagram = Ghostt_Scott* *I'm not here to change your mind, just to inform.*

April 15th, 2015, 06:28 PM	#37
dcj13 Participant Name: Dave Location: South of Seattle Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '94 K75 std Posts: Too much. MOTM - Aug '15	I don't normally drink and ride. I don't normally drink and pack a pistol. I don't normally ride and pack a pistol. You guys can do whatever you want to. Just be legal. And safe. And don't get injured or worse because of it.

April 15th, 2015, 07:53 PM	#39
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	i think i should just stop taking chances, wrap myself in memory foam and never leave my bed room again. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com
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