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dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 07:30 AM

Oh and in your particular instance (@gilmorec61).... a replacement front fender which also indicates possible other body damage repairs...

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

Not bad but you still have a lot more factoring to do. Insurance, maintenance, annual registration, and you still have the cost of fuel for the bike.

Cost of gear, farkels, bolt ons, add ons and such should also be included.

Some more calculating is due sir.

Insurance = cheaper on a bike
Registration = cheaper on a bike or the same depending on year
maintenance = cheaper on a bike (examples Tires. $200 for top of the line set. Car $800 for a good set on a car)
Fuel = 60ish some odd MPG city car best looking at mid 20s. city

If you wanna argue about gear, you STILL dont really have a case as the amount of money you save in gas will buy you decent gear in a few months. Especially coming from a truck. The kid hasnt put any farkles on, nor does he have too.

Hands down cheaper than his truck, and better than buying another car for gas reason.

Definitely not a moron to think that. I think the 16 year old is better at math than you.

dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

Insurance = cheaper on a bike
Registration = cheaper on a bike or the same depending on year
maintenance = cheaper on a bike (examples Tires. $200 for top of the line set. Car $800 for a good set on a car)
Fuel = 60ish some odd MPG city car best looking at mid 20s. city

If you wanna argue about gear, you STILL dont really have a case as the amount of money you save in gas will buy you decent gear in a few months. Especially coming from a truck. The kid hasnt put any farkles on, nor does he have too.

Hands down cheaper than his truck, and better than buying another car for gas reason.

Definitely not a moron to think that. I think the 16 year old is better at math than you.

I'm pretty sure this is a TOS violation but you sir are an idiot. We are not talking about selling his truck and buying a bike.... We are talking about adding additional cost and expenses on top of his current costs/expenses for the truck. Yes in did the costs for a bike are "cheaper" than an auto in most cases but in no way is it "cheaper" to own 2 vehicles vs. 1 just to save on fuel. Or at least is not for any short term goals. It will take years to save enough on fuel (unless your drive a Dodge Viper) to regain the monies lost in the ownership expenses for a bike.

Someone.... needs to go back to school. Are you 16 too?

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

I'm pretty sure this is a TOS violation but you sir are an idiot. We are not talking about selling his truck and buying a bike.... We are talking about adding additional cost and expenses on top of his current costs/expenses for the truck. Yes in did the costs for a bike are "cheaper" than an auto in most cases but in no way is it "cheaper" to own 2 vehicles vs. 1 just to save on fuel. Or at least is not for any short term goals. It will take years to save enough on fuel (unless your drive a Dodge Viper) to regain the monies lost in the ownership expenses for a bike.

Someone.... needs to go back to school. Are you 16 too?

Yes I'm 16 and have a wife and child

you are clearly on this forum a lot....

Ok are we talking on top of the truck? Or from what it sounds like he would have bought something else as well as his truck. That is where I was coming from.

He bought the bike for like $1500. How many miles does he commute. What does his truck get (MPG)? If his truck gets 15 MPG and hes driving a good amount, then he will make up that initial cost very quickly. Bikes are cheap to maintain and insure. Of course it is going to generally be more to have two vehicles. but you are ignorant of the kids whole situation so its pretty silly to tell him what is the best thing to do...

Look at that, one can respond without name calling. Amazing.

dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

yes i'm 16 and have a wife and child

You are clearly on this forum a lot....

Ok are we talking on top of the truck? Or from what it sounds like he would have bought something else as well as his truck. That is where i was coming from.

He bought the bike for like $1500. How many miles does he commute. What does his truck get (mpg)? If his truck gets 15 mpg and hes driving a good amount, then he will make up that initial cost very quickly. Bikes are cheap to maintain and insure. Of course it is going to generally be more to have two vehicles. But you are ignorant of the kids whole situation so its pretty silly to tell him what is the best thing to do...

Look at that, one can respond without name calling. Amazing.

fail

dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

Ok are we talking on top of the truck? Or from what it sounds like he would have bought something else as well as his truck.

Isn't this the same thing?

He also stated his potential mileage vs. gas savings. Did you miss that?

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

fail

Nope. You failed at comprehension good sir.

I said "ignorant" to a detail. Here Ill give you the definition.

So I said you were "lacking in knowledge" of the situation. Very different than calling someone a name...

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

Isn't this the same thing?

He also stated his potential mileage vs. gas savings. Did you miss that?

No.

I was coming mainly from the assumption that he would be buying another vehicle...

and yes I first didnt see his gas millage... honestly if hes driving 40 miles at 11MPG it wont take him that long to break even and even start saving money.

cuz · March 21st, 2012, 08:14 AM

BACK TO TOPIC

NickJPass GOT HIS BIKE!!

dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

Nope. You failed at comprehension good sir.

I said "ignorant" to a detail. Here Ill give you the definition.

So I said you were "lacking in knowledge" of the situation. Very different than calling someone a name...

No.

I was coming mainly from the assumption that he would be buying another vehicle...

and yes I first didnt see his gas millage... honestly if hes driving 40 miles at 11MPG it wont take him that long to break even and even start saving money.

So your admitting that you were ignorant to my post prior to making yours?

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cuz

BACK TO TOPIC

NickJPass GOT HIS BIKE!!

A bike

not a Ninja 250....

dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cuz

BACK TO TOPIC

NickJPass GOT HIS BIKE!!

Well he had one... just had the kind without an engine.

Um..... GO NICK..... I guess

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

So your admitting that you were ignorant to my post prior to making yours?

No, not yours. The other 16 year old kids post with his estimated millage and MPG of his truck. Still close enough that what I said is relevant though.

Also not sure if you missed it but my first post (as I stated) was coming from the assumption that he would have bought another vehicle. So Im not really disagreeing that he isnt saving much (if at all) on buying a bike and having a truck, rather that its a lot cheaper than having a truck and another vehicle (like a car) hence my car tire example....

dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

No, not yours. The other 16 year old kids post with his estimated millage and MPG of his truck. Still close enough that what I said is relevant though.

Also not sure if you missed it but my first post (as I stated) was coming from the assumption that he would have bought another vehicle. So Im not really disagreeing that he isnt saving much (if at all) on buying a bike and having a truck, rather that its a lot cheaper than having a truck and another vehicle (like a car) hence my car tire example....

Which makes 0 sense too. When did any motorcycle tire manufactures start making 50,000 plus mileage warranty tires for bikes? It's not uncommon for the auto industry so does this really make bike tires "cheaper"???

You should make those calculations again...

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

Which makes 0 sense too. When did any motorcycle tire manufactures start making 50,000 plus mileage warranty tires for bikes? It's not uncommon for the auto industry so does this really make bike tires "cheaper"???

You should make those calculations again...

thats actually a pretty damn good point, which was an oversight on my part. You should be getting around 15k on your motorcycle tires unless you buy some super sticky ones.. Still I did the math should be a little cheaper closer to the same. Good point.

Oil is the same just less to buy.

But youre still ignoring my main point.... I said I was coming from the assumption he would be buying another vehicle...

I assumed we were on the same page, I noticed we were not. I mentioned it, and you keep ignoring it? Obviously I was coming from one way and you were coming from another.... Not sure why you are still arguing with me?

Is a motorcycle cheaper than a car. Yes. (at least these)
Is one Vehicle cheaper than two. Yes. (usually)

Not sure what you are arguing with me about?

dubojr1 · March 21st, 2012, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

thats actually a pretty damn good point, which was an oversight on my part. You should be getting around 15k on your motorcycle tires unless you buy some super sticky ones.. Still I did the math should be a little cheaper closer to the same. Good point.

Oil is the same just less to buy.

But youre still ignoring my main point.... I said I was coming from the assumption he would be buying another vehicle...

I assumed we were on the same page, I noticed we were not. I mentioned it, and you keep ignoring it? Obviously I was coming from one way and you were coming from another.... Not sure why you are still arguing with me?

Is a motorcycle cheaper than a car. Yes. (at least these)
Is one Vehicle cheaper than two. Yes. (usually)

Not sure what you are arguing with me about?

I like turtles!

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dubojr1

I like turtles!

WELL **** YOU AND **** TURTLES!!!

saxnbass · March 21st, 2012, 09:04 AM

Mmmmm, dirty talk

etiainen · March 21st, 2012, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Well he had one... just had the kind without an engine.

Um..... GO NICK..... I guess

Bicycles are fun too

Here's mine

This isn't my pic just the same kind of bike.

Xoulrath · March 21st, 2012, 12:26 PM

Damn, that is soooo much sexier than my Quick 6. I wanted a 4, but they didn't have any at the shop I was at, at I got the 6 at a decent price. I've been riding it at its limits since a few weeks after I got it, though, so I could definitely go for some more speed. I don't have the cash for a new bicycle at the moment though.

Oh, uh, on topic...congrats Nick.

etiainen · March 21st, 2012, 12:30 PM

It looks great, but rides even better. It was my main transportation before my motorcycle actually. It's light and rides like butter. Took a bit to save up for this one

Seat is kind of uncomfortable, but I got used to it, may eventually change that out.

MustangGuy · March 21st, 2012, 12:35 PM

Congrats! Great choice! Great way to get on two wheels for the first time! Sounds like everybody wins! Be safe and always know your limits and ride within your ability - you'll be surprised how good you will get before you even realize it!

blink · March 21st, 2012, 01:47 PM

SOME of you guys, are dicks.

IF you aren't just joking around.

nickjpass · March 21st, 2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by massacremasses

I just got my son one for his 4th birthday

What bike?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilmorec61

Hey Nick, i got your back, dont feel bad, start on this KLX and move up to a a Ninja

I'm 16 too and i bought my Ninja last November, main reason parents let me get it is number one, ive ridden dirtbikes all my life(definently helps) number two, gas is insanely high!!!

Have fun on the bike man, stay safe, and keep your hopes up for a street bike! Youll get it!

Thanks. I love it...I'm glad I didn't get a bigger bike...

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nickjpass

What bike?

2006 Yamaha TTR 50cc

nickjpass · March 21st, 2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

2006 Yamaha TTR 50cc

Good. I nearly crapped my pants on this bike lol you get comfortable eventually right? I'm still scared of it lol

Alex · March 21st, 2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

WELL **** YOU AND **** TURTLES!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by blink

SOME of you guys, are dicks.

IF you aren't just joking around.

Those aren't mutually exclusive.

massacremasses · March 21st, 2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nickjpass

Good. I nearly crapped my pants on this bike lol you get comfortable eventually right? I'm still scared of it lol

lol hes 4 in may and weighs about 40 lbs... lol a 50 will be fast for him.. haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

look at those heels... what a ho

drac · March 21st, 2012, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

I'm pretty sure this is a TOS violation but you sir are an idiot. We are not talking about selling his truck and buying a bike.... We are talking about adding additional cost and expenses on top of his current costs/expenses for the truck. Yes in did the costs for a bike are "cheaper" than an auto in most cases but in no way is it "cheaper" to own 2 vehicles vs. 1 just to save on fuel. Or at least is not for any short term goals. It will take years to save enough on fuel (unless your drive a Dodge Viper) to regain the monies lost in the ownership expenses for a bike.

Someone.... needs to go back to school. Are you 16 too?

Ummmmmmmm......I commute 100 miles a day....get 21mpg in my current vehicle. I get 65mpg on the 250. Gas is right around $4gal.......You do the math.

What "ownership" expense are you referring to?.....What expenses are incurred with motorcycle ownership as opposed to car/truck ownership? The only things I can think of is a helmet, jacket, gloves and additional insurance. For me insurance is $138yr. Everything else is optional... i.e goodies and ****. The monies saved over a 10 week period pays for the necessities(I already have all the stuff so no money out of my pocket) after that I pay the insurance off(for the year) in about 3 weeks. Next year my YEARLY insurance for the bike will be paid for(in gas savings) by the 20th of Jan. .....another 6 months and the bike(bought used) is paid for with gas savings. After that it is all money in my pocket......All of this is predicated on gas @ $4gal, anything higher and the savings increase.

drac · March 21st, 2012, 04:08 PM

MM.....get hm a YZinger

Kstorm21 · March 21st, 2012, 06:45 PM

Pics please! That's the first thing you should of done is take pics. Happy for ya!

nickjpass · March 21st, 2012, 06:49 PM

Go here : http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...275#post460275

Kstorm21 · March 21st, 2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nickjpass

Go here : http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...275#post460275

Thanks....I haven't checked my unread posts yet.

Jiggles · March 22nd, 2012, 12:27 PM

Idk why nick has 6 threads for the same topic

etiainen · March 22nd, 2012, 01:56 PM

Excessive excitement?

250rr · March 22nd, 2012, 03:13 PM

Oh, and congrats, Nick.

nickjpass · March 22nd, 2012, 03:29 PM

I think I have three. One was where I was looking for a bike. Another where I got it. Another with videos.

Jono · March 22nd, 2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Idk why nick has 6 threads for the same topic

I know right. It seems a bit overkill if you ask me.

I mean, he didn't even get a ninjette. You think he would find a KLX forum to take over or something.

@nickjpass I enjoy your company on ninjette.org.

nickjpass · March 22nd, 2012, 08:15 PM

Thanks

rlocus · March 23rd, 2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac

Ummmmmmmm......I commute 100 miles a day....get 21mpg in my current vehicle. I get 65mpg on the 250. Gas is right around $4gal.......You do the math.

What "ownership" expense are you referring to?.....What expenses are incurred with motorcycle ownership as opposed to car/truck ownership? The only things I can think of is a helmet, jacket, gloves and additional insurance. For me insurance is $138yr. Everything else is optional... i.e goodies and ****. The monies saved over a 10 week period pays for the necessities(I already have all the stuff so no money out of my pocket) after that I pay the insurance off(for the year) in about 3 weeks. Next year my YEARLY insurance for the bike will be paid for(in gas savings) by the 20th of Jan. .....another 6 months and the bike(bought used) is paid for with gas savings. After that it is all money in my pocket......All of this is predicated on gas @ $4gal, anything higher and the savings increase.

a quick a dirty analysis shows you are one of the few cases that will actually save money owning two vehicles instead of one.

100/21mpg*$4*5day = $95.2 dollars a week to commute on the truck
100/65*$4*5days = $30.8 dollars a week to commute on the bike
$64.4 dollars in savings per week on the bike assuming you commute every day of the week.

Now lets assume the truck maintence costs maintain the same (they will probably go down significantly since you are doing over 500 miles a week = 26k miles a year).

and throw some numbers at the bike costs $1500 bike + $150 for fees + $300 jacket + $300 pants + $200 boots + $200 helmet + $100 gloves + $50 bucks oils changes for the year + $138 insurance + $200 for a tire change * (26k miles / 15k miles) + $200 for any extra bs that I missed.

gives us $3484.66 total cost. (I tried to make some of those numbers high on purpose obviously gear depends on the person).

At $3484.66 for the first year you will be in the black after 54 weeks which is slightly over a year but the second year costs drop way down.

Lots of money wasting still proves you will save money.

It sounds like your costs are a lot less than this so you will be in the black much faster.

Though if you dont ride every day it will take far longer to make your money back, I didnt account sick days, rain days, snow days, or whatever conditions you don't want to ride in. Days off could hurt savings, this assumes you ride 26k a year on the bike, that is a big chunk of miles.

Looks like a nice purchase for saving money. Or at the very least have more fun on your commute.

drac · March 23rd, 2012, 03:50 PM

rlocus..........Yea I think for me the purchase will be a money saver for sure. I do have to admit though that my situation is pretty atypical. I just posted to point out that to say you can't or won't save money by buying a bike is not always the case.

Is that oxymoronic>>>>> to save money by buying something...??????????????????

My wife always says that crap to me......."look honey. I saved $50".....Really, how?...."Well this dress was marked down from $150 to $100 so I saved $50"...........Ummmmm no dear. You spent $100. Had you put $50 in the savings account then that would be something. As it is I need to try and pick up a couple extra hours at work....................heheheheheh

March 21st, 2012, 07:30 AM	#81
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March 21st, 2012, 08:14 AM	#88
cuz cuz Name: Israel Location: Houston (me) Galveston Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	BACK TO TOPIC NickJPass GOT HIS BIKE!! __________________________________________________ THE GOOD LIFE

March 21st, 2012, 09:04 AM	#97
saxnbass ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Nashville, TN Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 CBR600rr Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Mmmmm, dirty talk __________________________________________________ My Mods \| My Bike's Ninjette Thread

March 21st, 2012, 12:26 PM	#99
Xoulrath ninjette.org sage Name: T Location: U.S. Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): Current: '11 ZX-6R; Previous: '09 Ninjette; '08 ZX-6R (Ex-Wife '09 TU250X) Posts: 981	Damn, that is soooo much sexier than my Quick 6. I wanted a 4, but they didn't have any at the shop I was at, at I got the 6 at a decent price. I've been riding it at its limits since a few weeks after I got it, though, so I could definitely go for some more speed. I don't have the cash for a new bicycle at the moment though. Oh, uh, on topic...congrats Nick. __________________________________________________ R.I.P EthioKnight (Alex)

March 21st, 2012, 01:47 PM	#102
blink Always. Name: Alex Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250, '05 GSX-R600 Posts: A lot.	SOME of you guys, are dicks. IF you aren't just joking around. __________________________________________________ blink-182

March 21st, 2012, 12:30 PM	#100
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	It looks great, but rides even better. It was my main transportation before my motorcycle actually. It's light and rides like butter. Took a bit to save up for this one Seat is kind of uncomfortable, but I got used to it, may eventually change that out.

March 21st, 2012, 12:35 PM	#101
MustangGuy ninjette.org member Name: Roy Location: Cathedral City, CA Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 650 Posts: 164	Congrats! Great choice! Great way to get on two wheels for the first time! Sounds like everybody wins! Be safe and always know your limits and ride within your ability - you'll be surprised how good you will get before you even realize it!

March 21st, 2012, 04:08 PM	#109
drac ninjette.org member Name: drac Location: VA Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): '88 Hurricane 600, '09 Ninja 250 Posts: 237	MM.....get hm a YZinger __________________________________________________ While no trees were harmed in making this post, a large number of electrons were severely inconvenienced.

March 21st, 2012, 06:45 PM	#110
Kstorm21 ninjette.org sage Name: Katherine Location: Schofield Barracks, HI Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE Posts: 767	Pics please! That's the first thing you should of done is take pics. Happy for ya!

March 21st, 2012, 06:49 PM	#111
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Go here : http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...275#post460275 __________________________________________________

March 22nd, 2012, 12:27 PM	#113
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Idk why nick has 6 threads for the same topic __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

March 22nd, 2012, 01:56 PM	#114
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Excessive excitement?

March 22nd, 2012, 03:13 PM	#115
250rr ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Mark Location: Portland Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): Cheap Italian Suit. Otherwise known as Dew Kitty Posts: A lot.	Oh, and congrats, Nick.

March 22nd, 2012, 03:29 PM	#116
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I think I have three. One was where I was looking for a bike. Another where I got it. Another with videos. __________________________________________________

March 22nd, 2012, 08:15 PM	#118
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Thanks __________________________________________________

March 23rd, 2012, 03:50 PM	#120
drac ninjette.org member Name: drac Location: VA Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): '88 Hurricane 600, '09 Ninja 250 Posts: 237	rlocus..........Yea I think for me the purchase will be a money saver for sure. I do have to admit though that my situation is pretty atypical. I just posted to point out that to say you can't or won't save money by buying a bike is not always the case. Is that oxymoronic>>>>> to save money by buying something...?????????????????? My wife always says that crap to me......."look honey. I saved $50".....Really, how?...."Well this dress was marked down from $150 to $100 so I saved $50"...........Ummmmm no dear. You spent $100. Had you put $50 in the savings account then that would be something. As it is I need to try and pick up a couple extra hours at work....................heheheheheh __________________________________________________ While no trees were harmed in making this post, a large number of electrons were severely inconvenienced.

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