Pirelli Diablo Rosso II Tires - Page 6

BlackNinja8 · April 16th, 2012, 09:35 PM

Now to devise a plan to remove the slick tire mold surface when they finally arrive...

00NissanNinja · April 16th, 2012, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackNinja8

Now to devise a plan to remove the slick tire mold surface when they finally arrive...

You won't have to worry about that much, I took them to the track soon after getting them put on and was happily dragging knee after a couple laps. Obviously don't go crazy, but these don't have much of a break in.

Rexbo · April 16th, 2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja

You won't have to worry about that much, I took them to the track soon after getting them put on and was happily dragging knee after a couple laps. Obviously don't go crazy, but these don't have much of a break in.

+1 the mold thing is a thing of the past, temperature is much more important for grip on modern tires.

Havok · April 16th, 2012, 09:44 PM

I got ya beat, i have a pair sitting and staring at me in my living room, i am putting them on friday at the track :0

Rexbo · April 16th, 2012, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok

I got ya beat, i have a pair sitting and staring at me in my living room, i am putting them on friday at the track :0

a pair of balls that is. bout time you put them to use.

Cam0 · April 17th, 2012, 01:23 AM

what type of mileage are others getting? I'd hate to be replacing tyres every 3,000km!

BlackNinja8 · April 17th, 2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cam0

what type of mileage are others getting? I'd hate to be replacing tyres every 3,000km!

See post 203 if you haven't already. Running through the tire in 3k miles would require some tracking or really agressive riding. Going through them in 3k km I think would be rather hard. I'm hoping to get 5k out of mine. Might have been better off with a higher mileage tire as I will probably do 9k miles this year but I had to see what all the hoopla was about.

TnNinjaGirl · April 17th, 2012, 06:57 AM

You won't be disappointed.

akima · April 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM

This has worked out pretty well for me. You're all my guinea pigs in this tyre experiment

There seems to be a strong consensus that these are very good tyres, so I'm getting them soon. I've already had 1 quote (314$ for both tyres and fitting)... just going to look around a bit more for better prices.

MikeBudd · April 17th, 2012, 09:43 AM

As per wear: I'd say 7-10k miles depending on your riding
As per awesomeness: you feel the difference right away for sure. These tires are just so much different and better than stock its unbelievable.

I still haven't found my preferred pressure yet in these yet, still experimenting. (I have 500km on them)

@akima, I paid around 300 including balancing, but they only had to mount the rear because I was to lazy to do it myself. Obviously shop around as much as you want, but I'd pay a couple extra dollars (probably all you will save) to get them on ASAP!!!
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akima · April 17th, 2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by trixter

I will fit them for free. The initial part of the ride you will have to go really fast to avoid sinking but after that its easy to just ride over here and get those tires installed.

* revs her engine at the beginning of a pier *

I'm going for it!! Here I come America!!

TnNinjaGirl · April 17th, 2012, 01:45 PM

Alright, did about 100 miles of hard riding today. The verdict...

If you don't buy these tires then you hate kittens. There, I said it. Can you live with yourself?

akima · April 17th, 2012, 01:50 PM

^ lmao: Now you've framed it in that light I feel I have no choice!

etiainen · April 17th, 2012, 01:52 PM

Has anyone actually worn these out yet?

I was going to put BT45s on my CBR after the IRCs wear out. What's the wet everday performance like though? My BT45s on the Ninja stopped me in freezing rain and other nasty conditions really well.

EDIT: I only want to change tires once a year. Something in the 10k range would suffice though, and if these could do that they would work. Someone on the CBR forums is getting pretty good mileage out of these. Less and changing all the time will get annoying.

backinthesaddleagain · April 17th, 2012, 01:57 PM

Great tires. use them on my cbr600rr.

LoD575 · April 17th, 2012, 03:45 PM

I am loving mine. Wet and dry traction is improved over the IRC's. Don't have anything else to compare them to but I am impressed.

Steven250R · April 17th, 2012, 10:24 PM

Seems like these tires make a HUGE IMPROVEMENT over the STOCK IRC's. Cant wait to get a pair myself!

cuong-nutz · April 17th, 2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NDspd

With the 3,000 miles I've put on the DRII's I still have quite a bit of life left I'm thinking at least 6,000 miles are left in them.

I also can't say enough on their performance...just wow...

Can you post a picture of how much tire tread you have on the tires and what psi are you running?

BlackNinja8 · April 18th, 2012, 07:10 AM

Gotta love revzilla, I ordered these on Monday night and they are arriving today! Can't wait

etiainen · April 18th, 2012, 07:12 AM

DIY or taking to a shop?

Havok · April 18th, 2012, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexbo

a pair of balls that is. bout time you put them to use.

No no, tires, last I heard my balls were at university of Indiana well at least one of them was :0

BlackNinja8 · April 18th, 2012, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etiainen

DIY or taking to a shop?

Shop, don't have the tools or desire to go it alone.

NDspd · April 18th, 2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Can you post a picture of how much tire tread you have on the tires and what psi are you running?

Sure, I'll do that later today if it isn't raining.

TnNinjaGirl · April 18th, 2012, 09:58 AM

What kind of prices are you guys seeing for mount and balance?

etiainen · April 18th, 2012, 10:00 AM

$0.

I did them myself last time.

But, I'm seeing around $30-$40 a tire for shops in my area.

dino74 · April 18th, 2012, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok

I got ya beat, i have a pair sitting and staring at me in my living room, i am putting them on friday at the track :0

go to the Michelin Guy... he only charged me $10 per tire last race weekend.

choneofakind · April 18th, 2012, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etiainen

$0.

Question: these are the same size tires that fit on your rims right? Have the guys over on the cbr250 forums figured out about these yet?

I'm just curious.

etiainen · April 18th, 2012, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Question: these are the same size tires that fit on your rims right? Have the guys over on the cbr250 forums figured out about these yet?

I'm just curious.

Yes, they are.

I was going to shy away from these in favor of BT45s, but from what I'm seeing on the CBR250 forums is that at least one person is at 7500 miles and thinks they can last at least 10000.

I was hoping I could find Dunlop GT501s as a compromise in performance and longevity but I can't find any in a 140/70-17 size.

I came across the Michelin Pilot Activs, but I just haven't seen a lot of information on them. I'm just looking for something lasting around 10k that's better than the IRCs. My old BT45s didn't look like they'd last over 7k at the rate they were going at. I would prefer not to change tires more than once a year. I don't like the IRCs, but they can fit that once a year change bill though.

I'm at 5k on the CBR right now, but the IRCs don't seem to be wearing that much at all...they look almost brand new. So it looks like I'll be going for at least another 5 months and maybe even more before they are worn out. Some people are going for 150s...but I would rather not change the tire sizes, as the current sizes work great.

akima · April 18th, 2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etiainen

I'm at 5k on the CBR right now, but the IRCs don't seem to be wearing that much at all...they look almost brand new. So it looks like I'll be going for at least another 5 months and maybe even more before they are worn out. Some people are going for 150s...but I would rather not change the tire sizes, as the current sizes work great.

My stock tyres aren't any where near worn out either. I'm still switching tyres though as I want the extra fun and safety and comes with extra grip. I'm going to carefully wrap up and store my stock tyres so that I have them at hand in the event I damage my new Pirelli tyres.

etiainen · April 18th, 2012, 01:27 PM

The weird part is that at 5k on my Ninjette, the tires were waaaay more worn. However, they were already quite worn when I bought it at 1800 miles as well. I barely got 6k out of my first set by the time I just went ahead and threw on BT45s.

etiainen · April 18th, 2012, 01:32 PM

I had thought that before, but when I adjusted my chain the first time after buying it, I made sure it lined up with the string method.

The wear wasn't uneven. The PSI was quite low when I got the bike, maybe the P/O didn't inflate the tires and rode? My new BT45s that I had put on were not wearing that fast...those IRCs really disappeared.

devinjc · April 18th, 2012, 01:54 PM

So, if I need new tires, and don't want to spend a week researching new tires, what y'all are saying is that I could just get Diablo Rosso II's and be extremely happy about life?

7500 miles on stock dunlops. Full time commute bike, very aggressively ridden commute, rain or shine. Tired of my rear breaking loose when I gear down in the rain and here lately in the dry.

NDspd · April 18th, 2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devinjc

So, if I need new tires, and don't want to spend a week researching new tires, what y'all are saying is that I could just get Diablo Rosso II's and be extremely happy about life?

7500 miles on stock dunlops. Full time commute bike, very aggressively ridden commute, rain or shine. Tired of my rear breaking loose when I gear down in the rain and here lately in the dry.

Yes the DRII's are top notch!! They grip in almost all conditions, plus or minus some extremes (sand, ice, etc.)

devinjc · April 19th, 2012, 11:16 AM

No ice traction, no sale! Actually, ordered and on the way. Can't wait for new sneakers.

BlackNinja8 · April 20th, 2012, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnNinjaGirl

What kind of prices are you guys seeing for mount and balance?

Just called around and got quotes of 150-180 on the bike or 40 per tire off. This is the reason I don't feel guilty buying my stuff online. Dealers gouge you every chance they get. No way it should cost 180 to install tires. If they were reasonable and moderately more expensive, than alternatives I would support my local dealer. Urgghhh...

Anyone in the NY area with access to tire changing equipment wanna meetup tomorrow? You know, grab a cup of coffee, shoot the ****, change my tires...

BlackNinja8 · April 20th, 2012, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trixter

Tire spoons are cheap. Soapy water (lubricant) is cheap. A bead breaker can be made cheaply. You can buy or make the balancing stands for not that much. The whole thing probably costs less than a single change at the rates that you quote

Please refrain from exposing my laziness

Havok · April 21st, 2012, 11:54 AM

I just put these tires on yesterday and went right on the track with them and all I can say is holy ****. These tires stick, plain and simple. For street riding you will quit befor the tires do as far as lean angle. On the track I had the best sessions I ever had on a track with these things. They blistered and bubbled and just stayed planted to the asphalt. These are great tires, so great that there will be a set of pilot powers for sale soon.

TnNinjaGirl · April 21st, 2012, 11:55 AM

After about 300 miles and a little pushing on the Dragon today. I'm pretty sure these tires have more grip in the wet than the stock ones do on dry pavement. It's hard to see but the shoulders have a little wear. My chicken strips are huge, that's the only thing I don't like about them.

choneofakind · April 21st, 2012, 11:57 AM

Chicken strips are good though. That means you have extra tire if you need it and your body positioning is correct for the style of riding you do.

TnNinjaGirl · April 21st, 2012, 11:59 AM

or... I'm not going fast enough.

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April 16th, 2012, 09:35 PM	#201
BlackNinja8 ninjette.org guru Name: NJ Location: Westchester, NY Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R (Sold); 2012 Vulcan 900; 2009 Harley Iron 883; 2004 SV650s; and a bunch of others over the years... Posts: 470	Now to devise a plan to remove the slick tire mold surface when they finally arrive...

April 16th, 2012, 09:44 PM	#204
Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I got ya beat, i have a pair sitting and staring at me in my living room, i am putting them on friday at the track :0

April 17th, 2012, 01:23 AM	#206
Cam0 ninjette.org member Name: Cam Location: QLD, Australia Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Posts: 31	what type of mileage are others getting? I'd hate to be replacing tyres every 3,000km!

April 17th, 2012, 06:57 AM	#208
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	You won't be disappointed.

April 17th, 2012, 09:06 AM	#209
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	This has worked out pretty well for me. You're all my guinea pigs in this tyre experiment There seems to be a strong consensus that these are very good tyres, so I'm getting them soon. I've already had 1 quote (314$ for both tyres and fitting)... just going to look around a bit more for better prices.

April 17th, 2012, 09:43 AM	#210
MikeBudd ninjette.org guru Name: Mike Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): RED 2010 Ninja 250r Posts: 304	As per wear: I'd say 7-10k miles depending on your riding As per awesomeness: you feel the difference right away for sure. These tires are just so much different and better than stock its unbelievable. I still haven't found my preferred pressure yet in these yet, still experimenting. (I have 500km on them) @akima, I paid around 300 including balancing, but they only had to mount the rear because I was to lazy to do it myself. Obviously shop around as much as you want, but I'd pay a couple extra dollars (probably all you will save) to get them on ASAP!!! Posted via Mobile Device

April 17th, 2012, 01:45 PM	#212
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	Alright, did about 100 miles of hard riding today. The verdict... If you don't buy these tires then you hate kittens. There, I said it. Can you live with yourself?

April 17th, 2012, 01:50 PM	#213
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	^ lmao: Now you've framed it in that light I feel I have no choice!

April 17th, 2012, 01:52 PM	#214
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Has anyone actually worn these out yet? I was going to put BT45s on my CBR after the IRCs wear out. What's the wet everday performance like though? My BT45s on the Ninja stopped me in freezing rain and other nasty conditions really well. EDIT: I only want to change tires once a year. Something in the 10k range would suffice though, and if these could do that they would work. Someone on the CBR forums is getting pretty good mileage out of these. Less and changing all the time will get annoying.

April 17th, 2012, 01:57 PM	#215
backinthesaddleagain ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Greg Location: Rhode Island Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 ZX6R 636 Posts: A lot.	Great tires. use them on my cbr600rr.

April 17th, 2012, 03:45 PM	#216
LoD575 ninjette.org sage Name: Steve Location: Valdosta GA, US Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2006 Ninja ZX6R-636 Posts: 661	I am loving mine. Wet and dry traction is improved over the IRC's. Don't have anything else to compare them to but I am impressed.

April 17th, 2012, 10:24 PM	#217
Steven250R ninjette.org member Name: Steven Location: 925 Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2009 NINJA 250R Posts: 40	Seems like these tires make a HUGE IMPROVEMENT over the STOCK IRC's. Cant wait to get a pair myself!

April 18th, 2012, 07:10 AM	#219
BlackNinja8 ninjette.org guru Name: NJ Location: Westchester, NY Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 250R (Sold); 2012 Vulcan 900; 2009 Harley Iron 883; 2004 SV650s; and a bunch of others over the years... Posts: 470	Gotta love revzilla, I ordered these on Monday night and they are arriving today! Can't wait

April 18th, 2012, 07:12 AM	#220
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	DIY or taking to a shop?

April 18th, 2012, 09:58 AM	#224
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	What kind of prices are you guys seeing for mount and balance?

April 18th, 2012, 10:00 AM	#225
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	$0. I did them myself last time. But, I'm seeing around $30-$40 a tire for shops in my area.

April 18th, 2012, 01:27 PM	#230
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	The weird part is that at 5k on my Ninjette, the tires were waaaay more worn. However, they were already quite worn when I bought it at 1800 miles as well. I barely got 6k out of my first set by the time I just went ahead and threw on BT45s.

April 18th, 2012, 01:32 PM	#231
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	I had thought that before, but when I adjusted my chain the first time after buying it, I made sure it lined up with the string method. The wear wasn't uneven. The PSI was quite low when I got the bike, maybe the P/O didn't inflate the tires and rode? My new BT45s that I had put on were not wearing that fast...those IRCs really disappeared.

April 18th, 2012, 01:54 PM	#232
devinjc ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Sacto Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 205 Black Posts: 44	So, if I need new tires, and don't want to spend a week researching new tires, what y'all are saying is that I could just get Diablo Rosso II's and be extremely happy about life? 7500 miles on stock dunlops. Full time commute bike, very aggressively ridden commute, rain or shine. Tired of my rear breaking loose when I gear down in the rain and here lately in the dry.

April 19th, 2012, 11:16 AM	#234
devinjc ninjette.org member Name: James Location: Sacto Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 205 Black Posts: 44	No ice traction, no sale! Actually, ordered and on the way. Can't wait for new sneakers.

April 21st, 2012, 11:54 AM	#237
Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I just put these tires on yesterday and went right on the track with them and all I can say is holy ****. These tires stick, plain and simple. For street riding you will quit befor the tires do as far as lean angle. On the track I had the best sessions I ever had on a track with these things. They blistered and bubbled and just stayed planted to the asphalt. These are great tires, so great that there will be a set of pilot powers for sale soon.

April 21st, 2012, 11:55 AM	#238
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	After about 300 miles and a little pushing on the Dragon today. I'm pretty sure these tires have more grip in the wet than the stock ones do on dry pavement. It's hard to see but the shoulders have a little wear. My chicken strips are huge, that's the only thing I don't like about them.

April 21st, 2012, 11:57 AM	#239
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Chicken strips are good though. That means you have extra tire if you need it and your body positioning is correct for the style of riding you do.

April 21st, 2012, 11:59 AM	#240
TnNinjaGirl Ms. Personality Name: CB Location: Murvill, TN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Depends on the week you ask Posts: A lot.	or... I'm not going fast enough.