Twist of the Wrist by Keith Code

ally99 · September 20th, 2009, 01:00 PM

I did a search and couldn't find a thread about this. Forgive me if I overlooked one.
Have you guys read Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist or Twist of the Wrist II? I want to buy one of them, but I'm not sure which one is better. Just wondering if you guys had read either or both and could offer some insight. Would it be worth buying both? Thanks! Ally
PS. I really enjoyed Total Control by Lee Parks and Proficient Motorcycling and More Proficient Motorcycling by Hough and would recommend them to anyone.

Alex · September 20th, 2009, 01:29 PM

Hi Ally -

Check out the sticky thread in this general section (linky), it lists a number of good books, some of which you've already mentioned. Both of the Code books are quite good, the second one may be a little more applicable to a street-only rider, but both are probably worth the time...

rockNroll · September 20th, 2009, 01:42 PM

Read volume II

ally99 · September 20th, 2009, 01:44 PM

Thank you both! So volume II isn't just a repeat of volume I with just slight changes? Does he actually go into more detail about street strategies in Volume II? If you think it's worth reading both, that's exactly what I'll do.

Thanks so much! Ally

rockNroll · September 20th, 2009, 01:59 PM

I would wouldn't bother with vol I but I think you'll like vol II and gain some good knowledge.

komohana · September 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM

allyson, i read twist-1 back in the '80's riding my 700 'ceptor...
that book saved my life!!
learned so much about the 'physics' so to speak of the bike, road conditions and what really helped me was counter steering (how it really worked).
money well spent!
enjoy

g21-30 · September 20th, 2009, 02:25 PM

Volume II is available on the 'net for download! The book is better with the pictures!

cwb48 · September 21st, 2009, 02:48 PM

There are also Keith Code Twist of the Wrist videos. I have a VHS cassette of one of them around here somewhere.

Chris

OldGuy · September 21st, 2009, 08:33 PM

Volume II for sure. Great read. I'm on my third time through and find something new every time. If you don't learn something you are not thinking when you ride.

Cali619 · September 28th, 2009, 08:17 AM

ally shoot me a PM if you want both books very very cheap

CC Cowboy · September 29th, 2009, 02:21 PM

Public Library- motorcyle section- read everything-report back

ally99 · September 29th, 2009, 03:51 PM

Thanks anyway Ryam. I've already got 'em.

Ally

mikedabike64 · September 29th, 2009, 04:31 PM

I read both but found Sportbiking "the real world" by Gary Jaehne to make more sense for my type of riding. Anyone that can ride a very stock ninja 250 like this has got my vote.

Link to original page on YouTube.

His reasoning behind late apex left (and right) handers is a life saver. Check him out.

randomwalk101 · September 30th, 2009, 04:33 PM

looks fun but too dangerous for to me..you won't see me hauling a$$ like that on the street for sure.

rockNroll · September 30th, 2009, 06:40 PM

He's not going that fast.

subiegy2010 · March 18th, 2010, 06:51 PM

Should I pick Up Total Control by Lee Parks or A Twist of the Wrist II? I'll probably end up with both, but which should I buy first? I'm also open to any other suggestions for a first book.

jfauerba · March 19th, 2010, 09:13 AM

My impression is that Twist of the Wrist II (read three times) is the best if you want to greatly improve your cornering on a sports bike and not cruiser (Harley), but I don't think it went into enough about using late apex. Total Control or More Proficient Riding (can't remember which) talks more about the late apex. Twist of the Wrist II DVD (watch about 4 times) is a little cheesy but is good to reminder you of what you read or a summary on most of what's in the book but does not go into as much detail. Twist of the Wrist II book is my favorite above Total Control or More Proficient Riding.

Zombiphone · March 19th, 2010, 10:14 AM

Twist of the Wrist II is a bit more like a cornering text book where as Total control is generally written in a slightly more conversational type of english. Total control is a somewhat easier read in a few ways as a result, but I personally prefer TotWII's more matter of fact explanations for how and why the bike and rider function. They're both great reads that I'd personally recommend, but if I were choosing only one or one to get first, I'd go for Twist of the Wrist just because that one really made me think about my riding. Really an eye opener.

Oh, and I'd recommend the DVD too. It's definitely pretty hokey, but it's great getting the visual of the techniques being executed both correctly and incorrectly.

CC Cowboy · March 19th, 2010, 12:24 PM

If anyone gets the "Motorcyclist" magazine, there is a column "Code Break" written by a guy with the same name as Keith Code. It is the first thing I read each month when I get the subscription.

This month is a great article that basically would have helped ninja250 that crashed in the guard rail video.

sharky nrk · March 19th, 2010, 08:43 PM

i am reading it now, read sport riding techniques as well - its pretty good

Yoda · March 20th, 2010, 06:37 AM

Found a digital copy of ToTW2 and reading it. Wish I had found this book and read it way back in my squidy days.

sharky nrk · March 20th, 2010, 11:45 PM

pass along digital copy?

g21-30 · April 5th, 2010, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike h

found Sportbiking "the real world" by Gary Jaehne to make more sense for my type of riding.

Just received a "gently used" copy of Gary's book for $.45 + S&H .... total under $5. Had a pleasant surprise when I opened it up! An autographed copy signed "To Trent from Gary Jaehne!" Also, waiting for Volume II (used) to arrive.

Chubbs032 · April 5th, 2010, 05:47 PM

Used to have ToW on pdf, can't find it anymore, anyone out there have it?

kkim · April 5th, 2010, 05:57 PM

I have tow2

Yoda · April 5th, 2010, 06:08 PM

Ditto on copy of TOFW2 copy.

Educating riders helps cut down on squids

toast · April 5th, 2010, 07:42 PM

I have to admit that Keith Code makes me feel like a total idiot. I've read A Twist of the Wrist II and watched the video multiple times and I read his column in Motorcyclist. I have a very difficult time understanding what he's talking about most of the time. I think his "style" makes it hard for me to grasp his point. Conversely, Andrew Trevitt's articles in SportRider are much easier to understand and I'm able to apply what he talks about.

Yoda · April 5th, 2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toast

I have to admit that Keith Code makes me feel like a total idiot. I've read A Twist of the Wrist II and watched the video multiple times and I read his column in Motorcyclist. I have a very difficult time understanding what he's talking about most of the time. I think his "style" makes it hard for me to grasp his point. Conversely, Andrew Trevitt's articles in SportRider are much easier to understand and I'm able to apply what he talks about.

Everyone has different learning style so depending on the "instructors style" people can pick things up easier or harder. Personally I learn best by doing it myself after watching someone demonstrate so I gravitate towards those kind of instructions.

September 20th, 2009, 01:00 PM	#1
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	Twist of the Wrist by Keith Code I did a search and couldn't find a thread about this. Forgive me if I overlooked one. Have you guys read Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist or Twist of the Wrist II? I want to buy one of them, but I'm not sure which one is better. Just wondering if you guys had read either or both and could offer some insight. Would it be worth buying both? Thanks! Ally PS. I really enjoyed Total Control by Lee Parks and Proficient Motorcycling and More Proficient Motorcycling by Hough and would recommend them to anyone. __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

September 20th, 2009, 01:29 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Hi Ally - Check out the sticky thread in this general section (linky), it lists a number of good books, some of which you've already mentioned. Both of the Code books are quite good, the second one may be a little more applicable to a street-only rider, but both are probably worth the time... __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

September 20th, 2009, 01:44 PM	#4
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	Thanks! ;) Thank you both! So volume II isn't just a repeat of volume I with just slight changes? Does he actually go into more detail about street strategies in Volume II? If you think it's worth reading both, that's exactly what I'll do. Thanks so much! Ally __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

September 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM	#6
komohana ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Steve Location: Kekaha, Kauai HI Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 GSX-R 600 2003 EX250: Woodcraft Bars, Levers, Mirrors, Shim'd Mixture, Synthetic, '08 Rear Shock Posts: A lot.	allyson, i read twist-1 back in the '80's riding my 700 'ceptor... that book saved my life!! learned so much about the 'physics' so to speak of the bike, road conditions and what really helped me was counter steering (how it really worked). money well spent! enjoy __________________________________________________ Remember when sex was safe and motorcycles were dangerous?

September 21st, 2009, 08:33 PM	#9
OldGuy Live Life Name: Don Location: Lincoln, NE Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Green SE Ninja 250 Posts: A lot.	Volume II for sure. Great read. I'm on my third time through and find something new every time. If you don't learn something you are not thinking when you ride. __________________________________________________ - ATGATT - Scorpion EX700 Hi-Vis Helmet, First Gear MeshTek 3.0 Jacket, TourMaster Transition 2 Jacket and Flex Pants, Sidi Doha boots

September 20th, 2009, 01:42 PM	#3
rockNroll . Name: rock Location: greenville, south carolina Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): black Posts: A lot.	Read volume II

September 20th, 2009, 01:59 PM	#5
rockNroll . Name: rock Location: greenville, south carolina Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): black Posts: A lot.	I would wouldn't bother with vol I but I think you'll like vol II and gain some good knowledge.

September 20th, 2009, 02:25 PM	#7
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Volume II is available on the 'net for download! The book is better with the pictures!

September 21st, 2009, 02:48 PM	#8
cwb48 Mature motorcyclist Name: Chris Location: Sykesville, MD Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, blue Posts: 126	There are also Keith Code Twist of the Wrist videos. I have a VHS cassette of one of them around here somewhere. Chris

September 28th, 2009, 08:17 AM	#10
Cali619 Giggity Giggity Name: Ryam Location: San Diego Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250R aka Hiryu Posts: 481	ally shoot me a PM if you want both books very very cheap __________________________________________________ Facebook DY Fender chop, Danmoto CB slip-on w/baffle, Airbox removed, Kleen-air removed, shimmed needles, Mikuni #117.5 Main jets, K&N RU-1822 air filter pods

September 29th, 2009, 02:21 PM	#11
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Public Library- motorcyle section- read everything-report back __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

September 29th, 2009, 03:51 PM	#12
ally99 Ninja chick Name: Allyson Location: Athens, GA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 4 MOTM - Dec '13, Feb '15	Thanks! Thanks anyway Ryam. I've already got 'em. Ally __________________________________________________ Sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about your destination. ~Drake Check out my Appalachian Trail journal, 2015! Postwhores are COOL! ~Allyson

September 29th, 2009, 04:31 PM	#13
mikedabike64 ninjette.org guru Name: mike Location: jackson, nj Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 ninja 250 Posts: 271	I read both but found Sportbiking "the real world" by Gary Jaehne to make more sense for my type of riding. Anyone that can ride a very stock ninja 250 like this has got my vote. Link to original page on YouTube. His reasoning behind late apex left (and right) handers is a life saver. Check him out.

September 30th, 2009, 04:33 PM	#14
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	looks fun but too dangerous for to me..you won't see me hauling a$$ like that on the street for sure.

September 30th, 2009, 06:40 PM	#15
rockNroll . Name: rock Location: greenville, south carolina Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): black Posts: A lot.	He's not going that fast.

March 18th, 2010, 06:51 PM	#16
subiegy2010 noob in training Name: Ilya Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250R (sold) '05 SV650S Posts: 175	Should I pick Up Total Control by Lee Parks or A Twist of the Wrist II? I'll probably end up with both, but which should I buy first? I'm also open to any other suggestions for a first book.

March 19th, 2010, 09:13 AM	#17
jfauerba ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Asheville, NC Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Red Ninja 250r Posts: 59	My impression is that Twist of the Wrist II (read three times) is the best if you want to greatly improve your cornering on a sports bike and not cruiser (Harley), but I don't think it went into enough about using late apex. Total Control or More Proficient Riding (can't remember which) talks more about the late apex. Twist of the Wrist II DVD (watch about 4 times) is a little cheesy but is good to reminder you of what you read or a summary on most of what's in the book but does not go into as much detail. Twist of the Wrist II book is my favorite above Total Control or More Proficient Riding.

March 19th, 2010, 10:14 AM	#18
Zombiphone CVMA/AFM #72 Name: Tiffani Location: Los Angeles, Ca Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r (Racebike), 2015 FZ-07(Tourer), 2001 KX65(LOL bike) Posts: A lot.	Twist of the Wrist II is a bit more like a cornering text book where as Total control is generally written in a slightly more conversational type of english. Total control is a somewhat easier read in a few ways as a result, but I personally prefer TotWII's more matter of fact explanations for how and why the bike and rider function. They're both great reads that I'd personally recommend, but if I were choosing only one or one to get first, I'd go for Twist of the Wrist just because that one really made me think about my riding. Really an eye opener. Oh, and I'd recommend the DVD too. It's definitely pretty hokey, but it's great getting the visual of the techniques being executed both correctly and incorrectly.

March 19th, 2010, 12:24 PM	#19
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	If anyone gets the "Motorcyclist" magazine, there is a column "Code Break" written by a guy with the same name as Keith Code. It is the first thing I read each month when I get the subscription. This month is a great article that basically would have helped ninja250 that crashed in the guard rail video. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

March 19th, 2010, 08:43 PM	#20
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	i am reading it now, read sport riding techniques as well - its pretty good

March 20th, 2010, 06:37 AM	#21
Yoda ninjette.org member Name: Lee Location: Naugatuck, CT Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Blue Posts: 150	Found a digital copy of ToTW2 and reading it. Wish I had found this book and read it way back in my squidy days. __________________________________________________ Mmmm when gone down you have look so good you will not.

March 20th, 2010, 11:45 PM	#22
sharky nrk Fighting Texas Aggie '05 Name: Neil Location: Hutto, TX Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '07 ZX6R, '08 Versys, '09 250R Track, '93 F2/F3 Track Posts: A lot.	pass along digital copy?

April 5th, 2010, 05:47 PM	#24
Chubbs032 ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: LA Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 250r Posts: 199	Used to have ToW on pdf, can't find it anymore, anyone out there have it?

April 5th, 2010, 05:57 PM	#25
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I have tow2

April 5th, 2010, 06:08 PM	#26
Yoda ninjette.org member Name: Lee Location: Naugatuck, CT Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 08 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Blue Posts: 150	Ditto on copy of TOFW2 copy. Educating riders helps cut down on squids __________________________________________________ Mmmm when gone down you have look so good you will not.

April 5th, 2010, 07:42 PM	#27
toast ninjette.org member Name: Laurie Location: Greater Vancouver, BC Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R Posts: 50	I have to admit that Keith Code makes me feel like a total idiot. I've read A Twist of the Wrist II and watched the video multiple times and I read his column in Motorcyclist. I have a very difficult time understanding what he's talking about most of the time. I think his "style" makes it hard for me to grasp his point. Conversely, Andrew Trevitt's articles in SportRider are much easier to understand and I'm able to apply what he talks about.

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