March 3rd, 2010, 10:11 AM | #161 |
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I have used the "Green Blood" Kawasaki-branded synthetic (Motul Product) and now I use Rotella T Full synthetic. I ahve always used Fram oil filters because they are widely available and not expensive.
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March 3rd, 2010, 10:28 AM | #162 | |
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March 3rd, 2010, 10:33 AM | #163 |
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I have. However, it seems to be all theory. Until someone actually states that they had to have their clutch replaced due to not using a specific type of oil, I remain skeptical that it is the oil rather than abuse or neglect. I place motorcycle oils in the same bin as filling your tires up with nitrogen.
In any case, the Shell Rotella listed above doesn't have those friction modifers, so it's win-win. |
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March 3rd, 2010, 10:53 AM | #164 | |
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March 3rd, 2010, 02:15 PM | #165 | |
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Heard many times that the Rotella T syn is great bike oil and lower cost than the Amsoil I use. Nitrogen is better for stabilizing the pressure in car tires that go from -20 to 100 deg. Not sure if it makes any diff in bike tires. |
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March 3rd, 2010, 02:40 PM | #166 | |
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the air we breath is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen, oxygen escapes from your tires 3-4 times faster than nitrogen. having 95% nitrogen just keep the air in your tires 3-4 times longer. Less having to fill up often. Then again, how often do you pump your tires? |
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March 3rd, 2010, 03:17 PM | #167 |
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The real advantage to nitrogen is that the pressure fluctuates less due to temperature changes than standard 'air'. If you're actually losing air from your tires you have a leak, no matter what 'air' is in them...
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March 3rd, 2010, 03:19 PM | #168 |
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March 3rd, 2010, 04:44 PM | #169 |
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I use nothing but amsoil and K&N filters.
Since I switched to amsoil I never seen that "fog" in the sight lens ever after a ride, which makes me beleive it's way better than dinosaur oil.
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March 3rd, 2010, 08:15 PM | #170 |
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What is that 'fog' anyway, if you know?
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March 3rd, 2010, 09:09 PM | #171 |
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If I have ever had fog, I didn't know it.
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March 4th, 2010, 06:38 AM | #172 |
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Kawasaki synthetic and K&N filter. Will swith to amsoil synthetic at next oil change. Can't find rotella synthetic 5W40 around here just the 15W40 for diesel engines.
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March 4th, 2010, 11:06 AM | #173 |
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Does anyone know what size crush washer is necessary on the drain plug? I didnt change it when I did my oil change but im beginning to think I should have? I heard it doesnt matter so much, but you never know.
I used Mobile Clean 5000 and a K&N 401 Oil Filter (came with O-rings).
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March 4th, 2010, 11:14 AM | #174 |
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March 4th, 2010, 01:02 PM | #175 | |
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Kawasaki's fix was to lower the CDI spark-cut threshold to a point below where this starts to really be a problem. The point at which the IC igniter begins cutting spark, by year: 1988-1995: 15,500 RPM 1996-2005: 14,500 RPM 2006-->: 14,000 RPM Unless you've substantially modified the engine (carbs, porting, pistons, rods, exhaust, etc.) it runs out breathing room and stops making horsepower at about 12,500 to 13,000 anyway, so there's not a lot to be gained from riding at the redline. It is nice to know that if it wasn't for one little flaw in the design the EX-250 (pre-gen) engine is really a pretty bullet-proof 15,500 RPM design. |
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March 4th, 2010, 08:47 PM | #176 | |
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March 26th, 2010, 03:17 AM | #177 |
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OK, I was told to go to Wal-Mart for Shell Rotella T 5W-40. What I found was Shell Rotella T6 5W-40. Same thing? It was the last bottle and it was leaking all over the place due to a partially unscrewed cap.
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March 26th, 2010, 05:04 AM | #178 | |
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"The newer fully synthetic T6 oil also lists JASO-MA compliance as per the Rotella website." |
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March 26th, 2010, 05:31 AM | #179 |
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I just put the T6 in monday night. Havent had a chance to ride since however due to weather and a couple obligations that required using a car.
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March 26th, 2010, 04:25 PM | #180 |
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I am going to go with the Rotella T6 myself for my first oil change since I bought the bike. The prevous owner used Mobile 1, but it seems a lot of people are raving about Rotella, and with the lower price it is a go for me.
The question I have is how long does everyone go between oil changes with synthetics? I was thinking of 5k, but is this too long? |
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March 26th, 2010, 04:35 PM | #181 |
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I haven't gone more than 2,000 miles between changes. The interval is dictated by how the bike feels when I ride. When the clutch gets consistently less smooth, I change it out.
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March 26th, 2010, 04:36 PM | #182 |
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Golden Spectro & Kawi filters, always keep a few on hand
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March 27th, 2010, 08:50 AM | #183 |
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March 27th, 2010, 10:51 PM | #184 |
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I saw the words, "Energy saving" on the Shell website for the T6..... does that indicate friction modifiers, or is that different?
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March 28th, 2010, 10:46 AM | #185 |
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It is my understanding if it says "Energy Conserving" then you shouldn't use it because of the additives, however, the T6 oil says "Energy Saving" and is JASO-MA approved.
http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...t6_detail.html |
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April 4th, 2010, 09:48 AM | #186 |
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The Kawi service shop called me to say that I provided them the wrong oil (Shell Rotella T6 5W-40)!
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April 4th, 2010, 12:55 PM | #187 |
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Motul 7100 and K&N-401
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April 4th, 2010, 02:41 PM | #188 |
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I usualy use Mobile 1 10W-40 full synthetic but they were out so I am going to try Royal Purple 10W-40 full synthetic. I will let you know if I notice a difference.
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April 4th, 2010, 04:24 PM | #189 |
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April 4th, 2010, 05:44 PM | #190 |
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Kind of reminds me when i last went to my dealership to get a screw and told him i was gonna put Rotella synthetic at my next oil change and he said "why". Kinda of felt guilty so i bought a jug of kawi synthetic from him. Figured if he was gonna back me up for my warranty by doing my own work the least i could do is use kawi oil once.
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April 4th, 2010, 06:44 PM | #191 |
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Just switched to Mobil 1 5w-50 Full Synthetic with Supersyn!
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April 4th, 2010, 07:27 PM | #192 |
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We can use synthetic oils in our bikes!!!???? Are you crazy.... my dealer said it would burn the clutch!!!!
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April 5th, 2010, 10:07 AM | #193 |
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April 5th, 2010, 04:58 PM | #194 |
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lol...i was hoping no one would twist that one around
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April 7th, 2010, 12:21 PM | #195 | |
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bought mine at wal-mart $14.00 for a 4 qrt. jug! Thats about 2 oil changes per/Year! (unless you ride a shitload of miles like 25k in 1yr) I changed my oil again the day i Winterized it, about 4,000 miles later! The oil looked pretty good in color and not too dirty. Im not a SAE certi-moto mechanic, but i would say 5,000 miles would be the MAX I personally go, between oil changes! If you live in a Hot, High Humid state,etc (like Florida/AZ/TX) and do alot of Highway miles, then you might wanna change your oil 3k for peace of mind! Me, im going to leave in the Rotella T 5w-40 i put in the day i winterized it, then change it around Middle of June! Just b4 the Hotter weather really starts setting in. Next oil change im gonna use my works Account for a discount, and Order some 5w-40 or 10w-40 full synthetic Oil from AMS-Oil! I read a magazine that i got in the mail (junk mail like) weeks ago, from AMS oil, and it had some nice info and tests about a bunch of Oils vs eachother! We use AMS-Oil in all our equipment/machines at work and never had a problem with them in the 7 yrs ive been working there! But, answer IMO, sure 5,000 miles = max b4 oil changes! |
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April 7th, 2010, 02:08 PM | #196 |
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I am waiting for my Wix filters to get shipped out, I just purchased 4 quarts of AMSOIL too.
Oil change coming by this weekend I hope. I want to see what the hype is about with the smooth shifting and what not. I use it in my turbo charged Focus. Never had a problem. |
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April 7th, 2010, 02:21 PM | #197 | |
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Or when you dump the Dino/Conventional oil to full synthetic? I really did notice a smoother shifting and clutch play when i dumped the Kawi-dealership oil i had done at 610 miles, at the 2,000 mile mark when i changed to the Rotella T 5w-40! I now have 6,500 miles. I dunno if the Rotella T made that difference, or just cuz the bike being broke-in! Im sure it felt better, smoother though! |
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April 7th, 2010, 04:44 PM | #198 |
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With synthetic oil in general I suppose. I purchased the Amsoil because I run it in my hi power car and its been great. It supposed to be the best oil money can buy weather true or not I have had good experience from it.
Oh my mom called me and told me my Wix filters came in the mail! This weekend I will do the oil change and maintenance. I am rather excited. |
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April 7th, 2010, 07:10 PM | #199 |
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This would make a good poll.
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April 7th, 2010, 07:21 PM | #200 |
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I just changed the oil to Rotella T6 5W-40, and can't believe the difference in shifting. So nice and smooth now. I should have changed it sooner, but was waiting for the oil filters I ordered off of eBay and warmer weather.
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