Indicators Solid after replacing with OEM...Relay?

[Jason5885]

Hi guys. I was involved in a low speed low side accident coming into a carpark, which smashed the front left turn signal. I got a brand new OEM front left turn signal and plugged it into the socket after making my ninja naked. Now the turn signals are all on solid..

Would this indicate my relay got damaged?

If so, the OEM Relay is like £50 / $120 , would it be fine just getting an aftermarket one which is a fraction of the price?

If it's not the Relay, what else could it be?

Thanks in advance

[Flying]

Did you pop off the reflector on the turn signal assembly and check the wiring leading to the bulb terminal?
Best to check if it's simply related to the connecting pins being dislodged before buying anything.

The relay is fairly secure in its position in the bike, I highly doubt it has been damaged. Next things to check will be the gray connectors between the turn signals and the main wiring harness.

Aftermarket relays work well, go look for a generic digital 3-pin relay. You could eat the shipping cost and still come out on top with this: http://www.amazon.com/Tridon-EP34-Flasher/dp/B00064LQKS. I'm sure there is an equivalent across the Drink.

[Jason5885]

Originally Posted by Flying

Did you pop off the reflector on the turn signal assembly and check the wiring leading to the bulb terminal?
Best to check if it's simply related to the connecting pins being dislodged before buying anything.

The relay is fairly secure in its position in the bike, I highly doubt it has been damaged. Next things to check will be the gray connectors between the turn signals and the main wiring harness.

Aftermarket relays work well, go look for a generic digital 3-pin relay. You could eat the shipping cost and still come out on top with this: http://www.amazon.com/Tridon-EP34-Flasher/dp/B00064LQKS. I'm sure there is an equivalent across the Drink.

Don't think it could be that as i got a whole new indicator/turn signal, along with wire that leads into the bike and conector. All the old parts were thrown away.

Does that make sense?

So you're saying i should have a quick check of the grey conectors?

[Flying]

I guess we could rule out the left front, though it wouldn't hurt to be redundant.
I would check the connection to the flasher relay and check the internals of the left rear turn signal, we don't have much to go by here in the first place. Do you have any LED lighting on the bike?

If I remember correctly, the turn signal circuit begins at the left front and goes clockwise ending at left rear. When the left rear is improperly grounded, weird stuff begins to happen.
I'm going off of that and the fact you had a lowside on the left side.
Of course, my memory could be off this morning, in that case forget most of what I said except for the relay recommendation, I stand by that.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by Jason5885

Hi guys. I was involved in a low speed low side accident coming into a carpark, which smashed the front left turn signal. I got a brand new OEM front left turn signal and plugged it into the socket after making my ninja naked. Now the turn signals are all on solid.........

Are the other three working correctly when the new one is disconnected?

Did the new one came with an installed bulb?

[Jason5885]

Originally Posted by Motofool

Are the other three working correctly when the new one is disconnected?

Did the new one came with an installed bulb?

Both the front right and the back right work correctly when i unplug the new front left replacement.

The back left is always solid no matter what.


And no my lights not LED they are all OEM original Kawasaki parts, including the new one i bought from thailand.

The new One came with a bulb, yes.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by Jason5885

Both the front right and the back right work correctly when i unplug the new front left replacement.

The back left is always solid no matter what.


And no my lights not LED they are all OEM original Kawasaki parts, including the new one i bought from thailand.

The new One came with a bulb, yes.

Then, the flasher relay is OK.
The new bulb or its connections are limiting the amount of Amps that flow.

Try plugin the new indicator in but without the bulb.
If all is good for the other three, then try one of the existing bulbs in the new socket.
If all is good, the bulb is the wrong size (watts).

[Jason5885]

Originally Posted by Motofool

Then, the flasher relay is OK.
The new bulb or its connections are limiting the amount of Amps that flow.

Try plugin the new indicator in but without the bulb.
If all is good for the other three, then try one of the existing bulbs in the new socket.
If all is good, the bulb is the wrong size (watts).

Ok from reading the wiring diagram on the ninjette wiki, it says the turn signal bulbs are 12v 23w bulbs, Yet on the kawasaki parts site it states that the bulb is 12v 10w. which is it? From the sounds of it your right, and the bulb is wrong.. I will try your suggestions this weekend as im 200 miles away from my bike right now.


EDIT : turns out the european Bulb is a 12v 10w for the ninja, the US bulb is 12v 23w , i own the FI 2010 ninja.. but i ordered from thailand so surley the bulb should be correct?


IF your suggestion doesn't work, could it be fuses? maybe not as i guess if it were none of the indicators would work?

[Somchai]

Jason, in case you need it here's the Turn Signal Wiring

[Jason5885]

Originally Posted by Motofool

Then, the flasher relay is OK.
The new bulb or its connections are limiting the amount of Amps that flow.

Try plugin the new indicator in but without the bulb.
If all is good for the other three, then try one of the existing bulbs in the new socket.
If all is good, the bulb is the wrong size (watts).

Just incase i've ordered a new amber 12v 10w bulb, as per the kawasaki part number for it.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by Jason5885

Ok from reading the wiring diagram on the ninjette wiki, it says the turn signal bulbs are 12v 23w bulbs, Yet on the kawasaki parts site it states that the bulb is 12v 10w. which is it? From the sounds of it your right, and the bulb is wrong.. I will try your suggestions this weekend as im 200 miles away from my bike right now.


EDIT : turns out the european Bulb is a 12v 10w for the ninja, the us is 12v 10w , i own the FI 2010 ninja.. but i ordered from thailand so surley the bulb should be correct?


IF your suggestion doesn't work, could it be fuses? maybe not as i guess if it were none of the indicators would work?

If you get an aftermarket relay, that will fix the mismatched bulb just like if it it had been an led bulb

[Jason5885]

Originally Posted by Somchai

Jason, in case you need it here's the Turn Signal Wiring

Thanks for that buddy. I have now saved it and printed it out.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by Jason5885

............. IF your suggestion doesn't work, could it be fuses? maybe not as i guess if it were none of the indicators would work?

No, think of fuses as switches that can be opened only once and cannot be closed again.
High flow of electrons (Amps) through a fuse is what melt them in order to open the circuit.

Interesting finding; my 2007 uses directional bulbs of 10 watts.

[Jason5885]

Originally Posted by Motofool

No, think of fuses as switches that can be opened only once and cannot be closed again.
High flow of electrons (Amps) through a fuse is what melt them in order to open the circuit.

Interesting finding; my 2007 uses directional bulbs of 10 watts.

Understood.

Well I ordered one of these

http://www.msa-direct.co.uk/amber-in...att-small.html

Hopefully it arrives in time for the weekend when I travel up to where my bikes in storage.

They had amber, yellow and whites, i assumed i need the amber one and just ordered it.

Hopefully i can get it done and dusted on friday.

Directional? is that like candle shaped? I got the spherical looking bulb.

[Jason5885]

Found the problem.

Once I plugged the fuel tank back on the indicators worked perfectly. Strange.

[Motofool]

Originally Posted by Jason5885

Found the problem.

Once I plugged the fuel tank back on the indicators worked perfectly. Strange.

[Jason5885]

Originally Posted by Motofool

I own the fuel injected 250, the fuel tank has 1 fuel hose, and one cable coming from it with a clear connector coming out of it, which I assume is for the fuel light that comes on when I'm running low. When I plugged that back in the indicators began to actually flash rather than stay solid. So strange!