Group Buy: PREGEN- Area P Full Exhaust System

[sombo]

Originally Posted by FrugalNinja250

I've decided not to get in, though this is a spectacularly good deal. Reason is that I don't particularly want a louder than stock exhaust.

If that's your decision then you will never have anything other then the stock exhaust, just so you know. There is not a single solitary aftermarket exhaust ever created (nor ever to be created) that will be as quiet as the stock exhaust. In the end it's your choice and there's nothing wrong with wanting to stay stock.


If this doesn't go through soon I might have to back out. I just recently spent a few days in the hospital (appendicitis, yippy ) and have a $500 copay to deal with. I'm still on for now, but we need to make this happen soon.

[FrugalNinja250]

The AreaP was offered with a Long Quiet 1.75" core and I remember seeing dB sheets somewhere saying it was comparable to stock. If there was a way to retrofit a quieter muffler to this AreaP system then I'd do it.

[CZroe]

I really want to see this happen and I don't even have a pre-gen.

[02ninjaeastbay]

when and how would payments be due, and when would it ship?

[kkim]

payment would be made by credit card prior to shipping. after the Gb is over, they will need to assemble the exhausts... most likely be completed within a week.

[02ninjaeastbay]

Originally Posted by kkim

payment would be made by credit card prior to shipping. after the Gb is over, they will need to assemble the exhausts... most likely be completed within a week.

If I can pay on the 5th I would be more than happy to do this.

[kkim]

I'll check with Kerry (owner of Area P) and see if he would be willing to do this.

[02ninjaeastbay]

Originally Posted by kkim

I'll check with Kerry (owner of Area P) and see if he would be willing to do this.

OKAY! thanks!

[kkim]

Checked with Kerry and he's a bit apprehensive about doing this based on the fact that the GB would be over by the 5th and if for some reason you didn't follow through, others would be affected as there would not be the 5 required.

So, to get around this, how about if the GB were extended to the 5th? Would that work for everyone else involved? Let me know your thoughts if you're one of the people that have already signed up.

With regards to the issue of providing a quieter version available in the GB, here's what Kerry is offering as an option.

These mufflers were/are actually very unique and were initially designed for a completely different (and much more expensive) project. They are a "Dual Chamber Core" design. Essentially it is a larger outer core (2.375") and a smaller inner core (2.0"). We pack the outer core more densely and with a different material. We pack the inner core with our Silent Sport Premium and less densely. This creates a unique tone as it attenuates the sound pressure waves between the chambers twice.

Now when we do the final assembly on these for the GB (assuming we make the minimum), we can actually make the inner core smaller (1.75") if they prefer. I did notice one person asking for quieter, so this will accomplish that. Whether it's quiet enough, I don't know since sound is so subjective to each individual.

[Kevin2109]

I cant believe more people arnt getting on this! I just spend $575 on my 12" CF Race(new gen)

This is a screaming deal!!

[Mad-B-Man]

I had a deal on something else fall through, so I might now be interested now, given the new information. I'm not looking for anything to be as quite as stock, just something quieter than the muzzy I bought last year. I was considering doing the ZX6e muffler mod, but the lack of documentation and affordable used mufflers, I might just sell the muzzy and get this instead. Or maybe I'll just keep both for the sake of having spares.

I'll read through everything in the other thread again tomorrow and tell you guys what I decide.

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by Mad-B-Man

I had a deal on something else fall through, so I might now be interested now, given the new information. I'm not looking for anything to be as quite as stock, just something quieter than the muzzy I bought last year. I was considering doing the ZX6e muffler mod, but the lack of documentation and affordable used mufflers, I might just sell the muzzy and get this instead. Or maybe I'll just keep both for the sake of having spares.

I'll read through everything in the other thread again tomorrow and tell you guys what I decide.

Where can I get more information on this "ZX6e muffler mod?"

[Mad-B-Man]

Originally Posted by CZroe

Where can I get more information on this "ZX6e muffler mod?"

Just search "zx6e muzzy"on ninja250.org. There really is no documentation on it at all, just mention that 1 person did tried zx6d and zx6e cans on the 250, with the e actually working fine. There was some mention of having to cut stuff to fit though. The guy eventually reverted back to stock.

Maybe I'll just stick to stock as well, after some consideration.

[poorfatjames]

Now when we do the final assembly on these for the GB (assuming we make the minimum), we can actually make the inner core smaller (1.75") if they prefer.

Would this make it the same as ordering a long quiet from AP's website, just in SS instead of CF?

[kbryant]

Originally Posted by poorfatjames

Would this make it the same as ordering a long quiet from AP's website, just in SS instead of CF?

No. The Long Quiet Core muffler is designed very differently than this particular muffler; from the inlet to the outlet. From a sound standpoint, the best way I can describe it - it's a deep tone that is somewhat muffled. The tone will not be as quiet or "soft" like our long quiet core muffler.

[fjyang]

I have no problem extending the GB to 5th if that's what it took to get 5. I've just posted this link in 250's group in Facebook, hope we get more interest.

[kkim]

extending it would be entirely up to Kerry. I have an inquiry into him at the moment, so we'll see what he decides.

[kkim]

This GB is now closed.

To the 4 people that signed up (Fjyang, Hunsy34, Sombo and komohana), sorry we couldn't make this happen. If are still interested, I urge you to contact Kerry directly @ areapnolimits@sbcglobal.net.

My thanks to Kerry Bryant for making the offer to help Ninjette.org.

Alex, please lock this thread.

[Kevin2109]

[Alex]

/re-opened at request of OP

[kkim]

GB HAS BEEN REOPENED


Okay, GB is back and open, as requested, for 2 weeks. That means the closing date for this pregen GB will be 12midnight, 19July Hawaii Standard Time. As in the original posted GB, we will need at least 5 people to make this happen. All other details remain the same as in the original post.

I will send a PM to the people that signed up prior, but for now, I will start with a clean list. If you want to participate, please copy and paste the list with your name added in your post.

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[Bosgarage57]

Originally Posted by kkim

GB HAS BEEN REOPENED


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[kkim]

Lucas... just checking. are you thinking of purchasing one or 2 systems?

[Bosgarage57]

Kelly right now 1, when I talk the lady into one I'll list my name again.

Wish we could pay a little extra for the carbon fiber instead of SS, but for the price I wont compain (too much )

[kkim]

Originally Posted by Bosgarage57

when I talk the lady into one I'll list my name again.

lol... gl w/ that.

thanks for signing up... hopefully, we'll get enough this time around.

[Bosgarage57]

Haha, well she has an 01 250 and i just got an 06, so we both have em, just depends if she wants to pay for a new exhaust.

[sombo]

1. Bosgarage57 (Lucas Bohanan)
2. Sombo (Mike Manenkoff)
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[Bosgarage57]

YAY!!! I know its recommended, but is it necessary to do a jet kit?

[Kevin2109]

Yes its a must, unless you like burnt motors its really not that hard to jet I promise
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[sombo]

Mines already jetted from a previous owner because of them putting on the 2-1 Yoshi exhaust. But I find the Yoshi to be a bit loud, not to mention that the pipe is getting a little too rusty.

[Bosgarage57]

Has anyone used their pod filters they sell? Is it easier to get to the carbs and whatnot?

[Kevin2109]

I know for the new gen it makes it 1000x times easier to get the carbs in and out. I can have my carbs out in 10min now

[Bosgarage57]

Thats good to know, took us 20 minutes to get the rear fender off and carbs out yesterday.

[kkim]

Originally Posted by Bosgarage57

Has anyone used their pod filters they sell? Is it easier to get to the carbs and whatnot?

if you're concerned about carb access, have you seen this thread?
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74317

[Bosgarage57]

Originally Posted by kkim

if you're concerned about carb access, have you seen this thread?
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74317

Thanks Kelly, I've seen it in the wiki, really need to consider doing this next time we gotta get to the carbs (hopefully that'll be a while though). I'm kinda afraid to keep putting different stuff on it (pods, needles, blah blah blah) becuase from prior experience the more "mods" you have on it, the more stuff that could (and WILL) go wrong with it. Unless of course its done correctly the first time

[fjyang]

1. Bosgarage57 (Lucas Bohanan)
2. Sombo (Mike Manenkoff)
3. Fjyang (Frank Yang)
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[choneofakind]

i wish I could get in on this. I just cannot afford it now. shouldnt have bought my 2bros and waited for this instead...

[Bosgarage57]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

i wish I could get in on this. I just cannot afford it now. shouldnt have bought my 2bros and waited for this instead...

How do you like the 2 bros? Is it obnoxious loud?

[juwong182]

1. Bosgarage57 (Lucas Bohanan)
2. Sombo (Mike Manenkoff)
3. Fjyang (Frank Yang)
4. Juwong182 (Alex Juwong)
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Count me in!!!

I previously had a 2-bros before my incident in Chicago. But here's my video of the exhaust, plus the "powertips". http://youtu.be/8LnmlDCkMhQ

[Bosgarage57]

Wish these could be wraped in Carbon Fiber instead of SS (for a few extra bucks), I'd have the final person to do the GB