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Old November 18th, 2012, 12:15 PM   #81
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Is that a stock master and good power and feel? Thank you for the links and pics. I ended up grabbing a right side 2002 GSXR 750 4 piston caliper to adapt.

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Old November 18th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #82
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Yes it's stock master and the power and feel is very good, braking a little bit harder is like throwing the anchor compared to stock.
Most of the time I only use one finger for braking since I also have steel braided brakelines.
Also the rear brake is much stronger then oem and with all the other mods my bike has a power gain there's the need to have stronger brakes.
Since the brakes at the 250 aren't the best I wonder why Kwaki's using the same s**t at the 300? But that's their way of saving money.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 04:04 PM   #83
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Old November 20th, 2012, 05:58 PM   #84
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Here's the info for the adapter in the front, I'm using the one from Agras.
http://japan.webike.net/products/9648924.html
For the rear Brembo caliper I use this adapter from Beet.
http://japan.webike.net/products/9363732.html

And here you can see it mounted at my bike.

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Cool stuff, holy $350 adapter for the rear brake. Overkill for sure, I dont' even use mine lol.

The front adapter is pretty nice piece though, which brembo caliper and disc are you running?
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Old November 24th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #85
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Cool stuff, holy $350 adapter for the rear brake. Overkill for sure, I dont' even use mine lol.

The front adapter is pretty nice piece though, which brembo caliper and disc are you running?
Yes, the rear adapter is pricy but it's the only one you can get.

The caliper I'm using is this: http://japan.webike.net/products/154219.html

The brake disc was especially made from a german company for my bike on my request.
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Is there a good thread on improving the caliper? It sounds like it'd be a worthwhile mod on the 300 but I'm not that aware of how the braking system goes together. Would buying the two items Somchai linked to be sufficient or do I need a custom disc like he got made?

Sorry for the full on newb mode questions.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #87
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The caliper I'm using is this: http://japan.webike.net/products/154219.html
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 05:57 AM   #88
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Sorry about the link, here is the picture of my calipers

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Old March 2nd, 2013, 09:20 AM   #89
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Yes, the rear adapter is pricy but it's the only one you can get.

The caliper I'm using is this: http://japan.webike.net/products/154219.html

The brake disc was especially made from a german company for my bike on my request.
spending money on a REAR brake upgrade is silly.
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 10:24 AM   #90
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spending money on a REAR brake upgrade is silly.
I more than agree, if you can't lock your rear wheel at any speed on your ninja you're doing it wrong.
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 07:37 PM   #91
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spending money on a REAR brake upgrade is silly.
Did I have to borrow money from you to pay for the upgrade?
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Old March 31st, 2013, 12:34 PM   #92
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I've read the thread and i don't think I've seen confirmation if the rear wheel fits on the ex250. Does anyone know?
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I've read the thread and i don't think I've seen confirmation if the rear wheel fits on the ex250. Does anyone know?
From what I've read they are definitely not the same wheel design, but they may still be compatible. I can see the allure of getting a wheel designed for the extra width on a 250 so I'm interested in this answer myself
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Will the brake lines carry over? I'm in no mood of giving away my SS break lines to the new owner. What about brake pads? are they the same as well?
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Everything that I have seen says that the pads and lines are the same.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #97
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Can anybody confirm the size of the swingarm spools? I want to buy a set for me and a friend (300 & 250), but there is a no return policy on sale items..

Also, I'm completely new to stands. Will a swingarm stand fit both? How about a front fork stand? Any other stands that I'm missing?

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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #98
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Can anybody confirm the size of the swingarm spools? I want to buy a set for me and a friend (300 & 250), but there is a no return policy on sale items..

Also, I'm completely new to stands. Will a swingarm stand fit both? How about a front fork stand? Any other stands that I'm missing?

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Spools are pretty standard things. All Kawasaki bikes use 10mm spools.

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Some spools require spacers. I gambled and bought these off eBay, they fit!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280964608617?item=280964608617
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I think I remember reading somewhere that KTM 10mm spools won't work, but otherwise any should be fine. Just remember to throw on a bit of locktite too.
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I think I remember reading somewhere that KTM 10mm spools won't work, but otherwise any should be fine. Just remember to throw on a bit of locktite too.
The problem is two-fold:
Conflicting reports on the correct thread pitch (I forget which is correct)
Threads often need to be re-tapped even new from the factory.

KTM probably uses the other thread pitch.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 12:49 PM   #102
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Anyone knows if the 300throttle bodies fit the 250? They are 32mm as compared to 28mm on the ninja
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Old May 26th, 2013, 01:13 AM   #103
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spending money on a REAR brake upgrade is silly.
Not necessarily.. Getting it lighter is a nice upgrade, and eliminating and preventing it from brake drag is also a great idea
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Bigger is not always better. Think about air velocity, not just the possible volume of air. High speed air fills the cylinder and creates resonance (which effectively pressurize the intake at certain rpm ranges) in the intake. Slower air will not fill the cylinder as effectively or quickly. With a high revving engine intake velocity is important.

Also remember that injectors have a minimum pulse width that can make idling difficult for a small engine with large throttle bodies (that need large injectors for 14,000 rpm performance with those large TB's). Unless you have some major internal engine modifications and you really know what you're doing, you're better off sticking with the 28mm TB's and stock injectors.

I'd look more into getting a Power Commander that's able to control the ignition angle, take it to a dyno guy to have him adjust the fuel delivery and ignition timing perfectly for the highest octane gas you can consistently get your hands on.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #105
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will the pregen stock rear sets work on the new gen 08-12? I'm looking at cheap alternatives for replacements

@Alex, is it possible to make this a sticky somewhere?
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will the pregen stock rear sets work on the new gen 08-12?
I'm using rearset adjuster brackets on my pregen that were intended for an 08-12 ninjette. I'd assume the reverse is also possible.
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Thanks, Chris! I'll see if I can find one local and test it out
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@Alex, is it possible to make this a sticky somewhere?
I'd consider it. Where might it make sense?
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Has anyone confirmed if the engine mounts are or are not interchangeable between the different generations? I can't tell from the diagrams. I'd love to have the dampers on my pregen.

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32029 32029-1542 BRACKET-ENGINE,HEAD,LH
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the Pregen rearsets fit on the new gens
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Has anyone confirmed if the engine mounts are or are not interchangeable between the different generations? I can't tell from the diagrams. I'd love to have the dampers on my pregen.

Pregen

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32029A 32029-1543 BRACKET-ENGINE,HEAD,RH

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After looking at pictures of the bracket, it'll work. Having that you mention it, it looks like you can swap the motor over onto the newgen 250 frame. I'm going to see if I can get measurements.
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Sorry about the link, here is the picture of my calipers
Wait, with this rear brake, is the caliper below the swingarm rather than above? It could make wheel changes quite a bit easier.

EDIT: Found a close up of it installed and it does, sweet!

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Will the front brake rotor from a new gen, or 300 fit a pre gen wheel?
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No.
Stock new gen & 300 rotors are 290 mm in diameter, stock pre-gens are 260 mm in diameter
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I know the rotors are larger. What I was asking is will it bolt to a pre gen wheel. Is the center hole the same, and the bolt pattern?

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Will the 250 08-12 rear hugger will fit the 300
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Will the 250 08-12 rear hugger will fit the 300
The 250 has a chain guard but no rear hugger...
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Haven't tried the disc comparison yet but other than the bolt pattern you must consider the caliper mount
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The 250 has a chain guard but no rear hugger...
i know, i am just saying if the fitment is the same, you can look at the aftermarket 250 rear huggers to put them on a 300 then
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