Read my plugs

Karma250R · March 7th, 2009, 07:51 PM

What do you guys think is she running lean?

Sloppy2nds · March 7th, 2009, 07:57 PM

when did you pull it off the bike or how did you ride it before you pulled it off?

Karma250R · March 7th, 2009, 08:43 PM

Just a normal ride. pulled them out last night when I got home from work

kkim · March 7th, 2009, 09:12 PM

is it possible to get a shot of the ceramic around the center electrode area?

what are you testing for? main jet?

Karma250R · March 8th, 2009, 12:27 AM

I barely ride the 250R but I have been riding it alot recently. And I have never jetted the bike yet. I have had this Dyno Jet kit for a long time. After riding it more frequently the bike does not run really well from 1-6ishk rpm. Then it comes alive. I need to install this kit ASAP. After do some reading I suspect the bike needs to be richend up a little down low. She may be lean, with the Area-P and snorkel removed. I may just try the washer trick. Or just use the needles from the dyno jet kit.

kkim · March 8th, 2009, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karma250R

I may just try the washer trick. Or just use the needles from the dyno jet kit.

either will help.

if you use washers, I'd recommend 3.

g21-30 · March 8th, 2009, 08:42 AM

You have the Stage 2 2193 kit? Put the needles with the clip in slot #3, 2 washers and a clip on top of those (see attachment). Adjust the idle mixture screws (remove the caps to get to the screws) 2 1/2-3 turns out and I bet your problem is solved!

As kkim stated, we need a picture of the ceramic insulator, viewed from the end of the plug.

More general info:

http://www.strappe.com/plugs.html

ajaygraci · March 8th, 2009, 02:44 PM

if you put a full exhaust on do you have to re-jett it? if you want your bike to run good i mean and not break down... i just installed a fulkl system but have no clue about jetting it or anything... can i just take it to a shop or something and theyll do it or do i need a kit n easy enough to do myself?

islanderman7 · March 8th, 2009, 06:30 PM

This is a pretty good link that gives an idea how to read plugs. Lots of Pics of Plugs

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaygraci

if you put a full exhaust on do you have to re-jett it? if you want your bike to run good i mean and not break down... i just installed a fulkl system but have no clue about jetting it or anything... can i just take it to a shop or something and theyll do it or do i need a kit n easy enough to do myself?

Yes you need to re-jet. Read the Sticky DIY threads in the Tech Talk area.

komohana · March 9th, 2009, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaygraci

if you put a full exhaust on do you have to re-jett it? if you want your bike to run good i mean and not break down... i just installed a fulkl system but have no clue about jetting it or anything... can i just take it to a shop or something and theyll do it or do i need a kit n easy enough to do myself?

how's the bike running since installing the pipe? are you sputtering/stuttering/missing etc along the powerband anywhere? more often than not, exhaust makers will suggest rejetting somewhere in the installation instructions. there are some threads on the forum that details both jet kits and mixture needle shims. check it out and see if these options are in your 'wrenching range'. CAN you do it yourself? if not, i'd pay for a shop to do it. let us know what you're gonna do k?

aloha

Karma250R · March 9th, 2009, 06:21 PM

I think im gonna try and just install these needles first and see what I get with that. I have the DynoJet stage 2 kit 2193.001
So g21-30 you recomend putting the clip on slot #3?

kkim · March 9th, 2009, 06:23 PM

If that's where the instructions recommend, I would start there.

HKr1 · March 9th, 2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

If that's where the instructions recommend, I would start there.

Karma250R · March 9th, 2009, 09:46 PM

Just seeing if any one has tried just using the aftermarket needles with no jet changes. And what results they got, before I do it. I was thinking maybe trying to duplicate the affect of "raising the needles" w/ washers, but using aftermarket needles w/ there different tapper. I will let you guys know what happens.

kkim · March 9th, 2009, 11:54 PM

I've seen it done before. It worked well.

g21-30 · March 10th, 2009, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karma250R

I think im gonna try and just install these needles first and see what I get with that. I have the DynoJet stage 2 kit 2193.001
So g21-30 you recomend putting the clip on slot #3?

Yes and since the kit includes 2 extra circlips, I put one on top of the two washers. When I tried to install the needles with just the washers, one washer fell off. Of course, I could have used vaseline/grease, etc. I just figured the extra circlip would fix it for good.

March 7th, 2009, 07:51 PM	#1
Karma250R ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Elk Grove Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, K7 GSXR 600, 2 Honda Ruckus' Posts: 12	Read my plugs What do you guys think is she running lean?

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March 7th, 2009, 07:57 PM	#2
Sloppy2nds just a n00b Name: Reeeeee Location: Tampa,FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '06 R6/'08 250R Posts: 55	when did you pull it off the bike or how did you ride it before you pulled it off?

March 7th, 2009, 08:43 PM	#3
Karma250R ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Elk Grove Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, K7 GSXR 600, 2 Honda Ruckus' Posts: 12	Just a normal ride. pulled them out last night when I got home from work

March 7th, 2009, 09:12 PM	#4
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	is it possible to get a shot of the ceramic around the center electrode area? what are you testing for? main jet?

March 8th, 2009, 12:27 AM	#5
Karma250R ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Elk Grove Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, K7 GSXR 600, 2 Honda Ruckus' Posts: 12	I barely ride the 250R but I have been riding it alot recently. And I have never jetted the bike yet. I have had this Dyno Jet kit for a long time. After riding it more frequently the bike does not run really well from 1-6ishk rpm. Then it comes alive. I need to install this kit ASAP. After do some reading I suspect the bike needs to be richend up a little down low. She may be lean, with the Area-P and snorkel removed. I may just try the washer trick. Or just use the needles from the dyno jet kit.

March 8th, 2009, 02:44 PM	#8
ajaygraci ninjette.org member Name: Angelo Location: North New Jersey Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 ninja 250r, black, carbon fiber full exhaust...2000 toyota 4runner Posts: 136	if you put a full exhaust on do you have to re-jett it? if you want your bike to run good i mean and not break down... i just installed a fulkl system but have no clue about jetting it or anything... can i just take it to a shop or something and theyll do it or do i need a kit n easy enough to do myself?

March 9th, 2009, 06:21 PM	#11
Karma250R ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Elk Grove Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, K7 GSXR 600, 2 Honda Ruckus' Posts: 12	I think im gonna try and just install these needles first and see what I get with that. I have the DynoJet stage 2 kit 2193.001 So g21-30 you recomend putting the clip on slot #3?

March 9th, 2009, 06:23 PM	#12
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	If that's where the instructions recommend, I would start there.

March 9th, 2009, 09:46 PM	#14
Karma250R ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Elk Grove Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R, K7 GSXR 600, 2 Honda Ruckus' Posts: 12	Just seeing if any one has tried just using the aftermarket needles with no jet changes. And what results they got, before I do it. I was thinking maybe trying to duplicate the affect of "raising the needles" w/ washers, but using aftermarket needles w/ there different tapper. I will let you guys know what happens.

March 9th, 2009, 11:54 PM	#15
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I've seen it done before. It worked well.