WOT - easy question

headshrink · April 22nd, 2010, 10:31 PM

Wide Open Throttle: does that mean you are literally holding the grip to the stop, or does that mean high on the RPM band?

I'm reading an article on tuning in preparation for my jet kit, so I thought I should clarify that.

Alex · April 22nd, 2010, 10:48 PM

Throttle all the way open, grip to the stop. Can be at 1000 rpm or 12000 rpm. Whole lot more fun at 12000 rpm, though.

headshrink · April 23rd, 2010, 01:12 AM

So for tuning.... how do you do that w/o going to the track? The only time I have ever been at WOT was the time I wanted to see how fast she goes. And I do have a moderately heavy wrist.

250rinblack · April 23rd, 2010, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

So for tuning.... how do you do that w/o going to the track?

Rolling road dyno would be my guess.

headshrink · April 23rd, 2010, 08:54 AM

Under cover of night, I guess....

KTRacing38 · April 23rd, 2010, 08:57 AM

I get to ride with WOT everyday! I love my little scooter!

rockNroll · April 23rd, 2010, 09:21 AM

I use wot on the 250 pretty much any time I have it out... I thought it was required on these bikes

headshrink · April 23rd, 2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rockNroll

I use wot on the 250 pretty much any time I have it out... I thought it was required on these bikes

LOL... I'm always pushing mine, I just find that once I get through 6 gears, WOT brings me to ~ 100mph (only tried that once), and if I am in a lower gear, I hit the rev-limiter. So maybe there is something I am still not understanding.

Alex · April 23rd, 2010, 11:19 AM

Hold WOT until redline, shift up, hold WOT until redline, shift up, and repeat. On the ninjette that works through about 4th gear before speeds get up there. It's one of the fun things about this bike, actually. Try the same exact method on a bike that hits triple-digits in first gear, and you realize that you can never hold WOT for more than a second or two on the street before risking life, limb, and license.

chrisenglandus · April 23rd, 2010, 12:15 PM

Playing WOT is one of the great things about these bikes, with my last one I hardly ever got to play WOT

Flashmonkey · April 23rd, 2010, 12:44 PM

Hehe +1...I'm usually bouncing off the rev limiter before I even get through an intersection.

But with regards to jetting...can this not be done in neutral? Noobish of me to ask, I know, but when it comes to tuning FI vehicles, you typically have fuel maps and injector duty loads and all that insanity. Since this is a carb'd bike....wouldn't WOT in neutral be sufficient?

Ken08Ninja · April 23rd, 2010, 12:47 PM

It does not matter what gear you are in for tuning. You could be in 6th gear or 1st as long as you are WOT when you turn off the engine the plugs will give a correct reading.
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kkim · April 23rd, 2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Flashmonkey

But with regards to jetting...can this not be done in neutral?

no... the engine needs to be loaded to be jetted properly. Besides, you should never rev a bike to a high rpm/redline while it is in neutral.

Flashmonkey · April 23rd, 2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kkim

no... the engine needs to be loaded to be jetted properly. Besides, you should never rev a bike to a high rpm/redline while it is in neutral.

Well that answers that. Thanks, Kelly!

patw · April 23rd, 2010, 01:27 PM

For my own riding style, I noticed this year I'm riding at 10-12k RPM and 1-2 gears lower all the time, even found out what that annoying "rev limiter" is... damn thing cuts my fuel or something when I'm having fun. Not sure how anyone rides WoT with that nanny in place

alex.s · April 23rd, 2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by patw

For my own riding style, I noticed this year I'm riding at 10-12k RPM and 1-2 gears lower all the time, even found out what that annoying "rev limiter" is... damn thing cuts my fuel or something when I'm having fun. Not sure how anyone rides WoT with that nanny in place

I find my bike is like a fine woman... you really need to keep an ear on her, and give her a kick when she asks for it... otherwise she cuts the power out on you...

April 22nd, 2010, 10:31 PM	#1
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	WOT - easy question Wide Open Throttle: does that mean you are literally holding the grip to the stop, or does that mean high on the RPM band? I'm reading an article on tuning in preparation for my jet kit, so I thought I should clarify that.

April 22nd, 2010, 10:48 PM	#2
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Throttle all the way open, grip to the stop. Can be at 1000 rpm or 12000 rpm. Whole lot more fun at 12000 rpm, though. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

April 23rd, 2010, 09:21 AM	#7
rockNroll . Name: rock Location: greenville, south carolina Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): black Posts: A lot.	I use wot on the 250 pretty much any time I have it out... I thought it was required on these bikes __________________________________________________ Always get a second opinion because most of these people are makin' this stuff up

April 23rd, 2010, 11:19 AM	#9
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Hold WOT until redline, shift up, hold WOT until redline, shift up, and repeat. On the ninjette that works through about 4th gear before speeds get up there. It's one of the fun things about this bike, actually. Try the same exact method on a bike that hits triple-digits in first gear, and you realize that you can never hold WOT for more than a second or two on the street before risking life, limb, and license. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

April 23rd, 2010, 01:27 PM	#15
patw ninjette.org guru Name: Pat Location: Barrie, Ontario Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 SE Posts: 338	For my own riding style, I noticed this year I'm riding at 10-12k RPM and 1-2 gears lower all the time, even found out what that annoying "rev limiter" is... damn thing cuts my fuel or something when I'm having fun. Not sure how anyone rides WoT with that nanny in place __________________________________________________ 2013 CRF250L 1985 GL1200 Interstate

April 23rd, 2010, 01:12 AM	#3
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	So for tuning.... how do you do that w/o going to the track? The only time I have ever been at WOT was the time I wanted to see how fast she goes. And I do have a moderately heavy wrist.

April 23rd, 2010, 08:54 AM	#5
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Under cover of night, I guess....

April 23rd, 2010, 08:57 AM	#6
KTRacing38 2010 250 Cup Champion Name: Kristy Location: Port Perry, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R and 2007 Honda CR150F Posts: 168	I get to ride with WOT everyday! I love my little scooter!

April 23rd, 2010, 12:15 PM	#10
chrisenglandus ninjette.org member Name: Christine Location: Atlanta Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009, Honda Silverwing scooter ABS 2008 Posts: 23	Playing WOT is one of the great things about these bikes, with my last one I hardly ever got to play WOT

April 23rd, 2010, 12:44 PM	#11
Flashmonkey Professional belly dancer Name: James Location: Toronto Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 1992 GSX-R 750 Posts: A lot.	Hehe +1...I'm usually bouncing off the rev limiter before I even get through an intersection. But with regards to jetting...can this not be done in neutral? Noobish of me to ask, I know, but when it comes to tuning FI vehicles, you typically have fuel maps and injector duty loads and all that insanity. Since this is a carb'd bike....wouldn't WOT in neutral be sufficient?

April 23rd, 2010, 12:47 PM	#12
Ken08Ninja ninjette.org member Name: Ken Location: NY Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R Candy Plasma Blue Posts: 129	It does not matter what gear you are in for tuning. You could be in 6th gear or 1st as long as you are WOT when you turn off the engine the plugs will give a correct reading. Posted via Mobile Device

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