2012 650R Updated

geeker · October 10th, 2011, 06:12 AM

Anyone see the 2012 650R update today? Looks like they have all the important colors covered - green, red, and black. Did i mention green?

http://m.kawasaki.com/ProductDetail/?id=570

sombo · October 10th, 2011, 06:36 AM

And they did the two-part seat like everyone has been asking for. I watched some of the videos on the Kawasaki site and the seat height is the same but they increased the padding and comfort of the seat. The dash is new with analog tach and digital underneath. They added more vibration dampening throughout, new............ well lots of new styling cues and such. I HAVE to demo one at Biketoberfest to see if she's as sweet as she looks. If she rides as sweet as she looks that will be my next bike, cause omg I love how it looks now.

reaubideux · October 10th, 2011, 06:56 AM

Nice. This is back on my "possible next bike" list now. Hated the 1-piece seat and the front-end. The redesigned front-end and 2-piece seat look a lot better. The tubular swingarm looks pretty cool. Don't think I've seen that on a bike before.

Lil_Green_Demon · October 10th, 2011, 07:12 AM

I'd love to buy this as a 2nd bike!

The green would be awesome. I'd have my green 250R & green 650R. Win.

gt_turbo · October 10th, 2011, 07:22 AM

looks better than the last model. also diggin the new paint scheme on the '12 zx6r's. decisions decisions.

CZroe · October 10th, 2011, 07:31 AM

I didn't like the last front face profile and I like it even less now.

Too much like the Ninja 1000.

Even though the tail was a little worse than the 2009, I liked the 2008 and earlier model better, especially the ones with the cowl-line seat (silver or green passenger area). I also dislike the new "tubular" swingarm and frame that is shaped like the more solid frames of the super sports but made with multiple tubes.

nickjpass · October 10th, 2011, 07:48 AM

I'm not sure if I'd begin to like it, but that's disgusting.

Ranor · October 10th, 2011, 08:31 AM

NO MORE BANANA SEAT F' YEA!

http://www.kawasaki.eu/product.asp?Id=3409DE56FF9

ER6N Lookin Hawt!

http://www.kawasaki.eu/product.asp?Id=3409DE5B884

totaled · October 10th, 2011, 08:45 AM

They sound sick with the two-bros slip on

Live2ride · October 10th, 2011, 08:52 AM

Wow, the 650r looks a hell of a lot better now!

Ranor · October 10th, 2011, 08:57 AM

Above are the ER6N's new instrumentation. Much better IMO!

Below are the ER6F's new dials lookin good aswell

AznJoJo · October 10th, 2011, 09:03 AM

I think the green one looks the best. Maybe I'll just skip on the 250r, save a bit more and just get this as my first bike? hehe jk. I love the 250 too much to do that.

THE BIG SITT · October 10th, 2011, 09:18 AM

Sure this is a dumb question, but do the 650s have clip-ons?

sombo · October 10th, 2011, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BIG SITT

Sure this is a dumb question, but do the 650s have clip-ons?

No, still the handlebar set up but with more rubber insulation for less vibration. It will never have clip-ons, that's reserved for the supersports. This has more of the sport-touring riding position which would not allow for clip-ons.

THE BIG SITT · October 10th, 2011, 12:23 PM

Well that sucks :/

NDspd · October 10th, 2011, 01:30 PM

Hey, I love the new styling and the new mechanical changes are very welcome. This bike is definitely on my next bike list.

nickjpass · October 10th, 2011, 01:40 PM

I like it now. I showed it to my mom, she said it's cute like a baby lol.

CZroe · October 10th, 2011, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BIG SITT

Sure this is a dumb question, but do the 650s have clip-ons?

Stock? No. Aftermarket? Yes.

ruben · October 10th, 2011, 03:18 PM

i may just skip the 250 altogether. this bike is sexy!

THE BIG SITT · October 10th, 2011, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

Stock? No. Aftermarket? Yes.

I was looking at some threads regarding the 650 and clip-ons, and the general consensus seemed to be a definite no against the clip-ons due to having to either lower them to far, or having to mount them under which had clearance issues...

00NissanNinja · October 10th, 2011, 03:58 PM

Looks much better to me, its back on my considerations list pending a demo next summer. Just need to figure something out about those handlebars; I still don't like the way those are.

Couldn't you get clipons with risers just like the 250? Saw a few threads on people getting risers from woodcraft but I don't know about clearances and this is a new bike, things might be a little different.

rusninja · October 10th, 2011, 04:19 PM

lololol just changeing the seat alot more people like this bike. :P

rusninja · October 10th, 2011, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AznJoJo

I think the green one looks the best. Maybe I'll just skip on the 250r, save a bit more and just get this as my first bike? hehe jk. I love the 250 too much to do that.

your going to get a 250 :O

NDspd · October 10th, 2011, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AznJoJo

I think the green one looks the best. Maybe I'll just skip on the 250r, save a bit more and just get this as my first bike? hehe jk. I love the 250 too much to do that.

Go for the 250 first!!! It's what I'm doing right now, and it has plenty of power for a beginner.

Reddoak · October 10th, 2011, 05:22 PM

I really like the ER-6N instrumentation. Shame they won't bring it to the US again. Wonder if it's possible to retro fit to an 09....

SSR · October 10th, 2011, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reddoak

Shame they won't bring it to the US again.

They are. http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Pro...?scid=6&id=430

That's a .com website.

sombo · October 10th, 2011, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSR

They are. http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Pro...?scid=6&id=430

That's a .com website.

He's talking about the updated 2012 model which according to the Kawasaki site is NOT coming to the US. We still get the older 2010 model for now it would seem, at least according to the site.

Reddoak · October 10th, 2011, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sombo

He's talking about the updated 2012 model which according to the Kawasaki site is NOT coming to the US. We still get the older 2010 model for now it would seem, at least according to the site.

I was. Once they're gone, no new ER-6N's for us.

The ER-6N was never really as much a success in the States. Not sure why, exactly. But I don't really think a two year sales attempt, with one color per year, and no real advertising was a very noteworthy effort on Kawi's part.

Perhaps the 2012, with a more attractive seat, headlight, instrumentation, and most of all smaller cowling would fare better. But we won't know, because they ditched it in 2010. Hopefully their other naked bike (the Z1000) holds up better.

I would have loved to have seen an ER-2N version of the Ninjette. Although... to be honest, it wasn't particularly pretty under the sexy bodywork they have it in.

The 650R looks nicer. I'm not sure about the dual tube frame, but the seat and adjustable windscreen are nice touches. The only gripe I could find, styling wise, is that it just doesn't really stand out. It's a pretty generic looking sport bike. Which is great, if you want a bike that looks like an averaged out sport bike. But that's just personal taste. I think it looks nicer than the previous version, and that looked pretty good to me as well.

I'm glad to see Kawi offers a mid-range sports bike that's not a hardcore crotch rocket, and that they're committed to developing and improving it, without changing it's purpose or price radically.

areifel · October 10th, 2011, 07:04 PM

So these aren't coming to the US? I am looking to upgrade from my 250 without going into the Supersport market.

nickjpass · October 10th, 2011, 07:06 PM

The 650R is. The 2010 ER-6n will remain as the current model.

Mazakawi · October 10th, 2011, 11:09 PM

90% sure that will be my next bike.

I like that it's a more upright seating position over the supersports. Seeing as I do most of my riding with my dad on his Harley being comfortable over a long distance is important.

gfloyd2002 · October 11th, 2011, 04:07 AM

Great changes. New styling cues from the supersports improve the looks tremendously, as does the fixed non-banana seat. Massively improved styling. Also like the exhaust, better vibration dampening, new instrument panel is awesome (miles to empty, a feature to tell you when you are maximizing MPG, analog tach), LED's, flushmounts. Also like what they kept, low seat height (but with better padding), narrow profile kept for ease of riding, kept the more upright seating position.

Looks like they took the most common aftermarket changes and incorporated them into stock. And fixed the looks. Awesome changes for 2012, awesome retention of best features of 2011. Well done.

CynicalC · October 11th, 2011, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sombo

And they did the two-part seat like everyone has been asking for. I watched some of the videos on the Kawasaki site and the seat height is the same but they increased the padding and comfort of the seat. The dash is new with analog tach and digital underneath. They added more vibration dampening throughout, new............ well lots of new styling cues and such. I HAVE to demo one at Biketoberfest to see if she's as sweet as she looks. If she rides as sweet as she looks that will be my next bike, cause omg I love how it looks now.

I hate to be a downer but this thread is about the color changes. Let's try to stay on topic.

sombo · October 11th, 2011, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CynicalC

I hate to be a downer but this thread is about the color changes. Let's try to stay on topic.

An entire thread of people talking about the changes of the entire bike and you decide to pick on mine with (what I believe to be) sarcasm? Well bite me.

CynicalC · October 11th, 2011, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sombo

An entire thread of people talking about the changes of the entire bike and you decide to pick on mine with (what I believe to be) sarcasm? Well bite me.

Woosh.

DjDiablo · October 11th, 2011, 04:52 AM

Sadly in brasil we (Brasil) only got new pait job...
And it is not alot of pait job uahauhauhahauh
Just a few stripes...
What lets me think they did not sell alot of bike and all they are going to do is re-paint the old models and sell as new...

And u can clearly see the Brasilian model was only photoshoped....

PICS (Oficial web pages fom Kawasaki Brasil and Kawasaki USA)

BRASIL Ninja 650R 2012

USA Ninja 650R 2012

CynicalC · October 11th, 2011, 05:05 AM

All bike and auto manufacturers do this when they release new models. Selling the older models as new in other countries until they're ready to debut the new model there.

DjDiablo · October 11th, 2011, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CynicalC

All bike and auto manufacturers do this when they release new models. Selling the older models as new in other countries until they're ready to debut the new model there.

That is mean...
Show some one that your future bike can look like something but u will never going to get it!!!

CZroe · October 11th, 2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjDiablo

That is mean...
Show some one that your future bike can look like something but u will never going to get it!!!

I think they're just selling through old stock!

Boom King · October 11th, 2011, 02:20 PM

That is one sweet looking ride. Some differences in the specs between the 2012 and 2011 respectively:

Compression ratio: 10.8:1 vs. 11.3:1
Frame type: Twin-pipe perimeter design, high-tensile steel vs. Semi-double cradle, high-tensile steel
Increased suspension travel: front 4.9in/rear 5.1in vs. front 4.7in/rear 4.9in
Fuel capacity: 4.2 gal vs 4.1
Seat height up slightly: 31.7in vs 31.1
Curb weight increased: 460.8 lbs vs. 449.8 lbs
Overall length: 83.1 in vs. 82.7 in
Overall width: 30.3 in vs. 29.9 in
Overall height: 46.5 in vs. 47.2 in

October 10th, 2011, 06:12 AM	#1
geeker ninjette.org guru Name: Richie Location: Arkansas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda CRF300L Rally, 2015 Ninja ZX6R 636, 2014 Ninja 1000, 2013 Ninja 300 (sold), 2011 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: 479	2012 650R Updated Anyone see the 2012 650R update today? Looks like they have all the important colors covered - green, red, and black. Did i mention green? http://m.kawasaki.com/ProductDetail/?id=570 Last futzed with by geeker; October 10th, 2011 at 06:13 AM. Reason: Forgot the link

October 10th, 2011, 07:12 AM	#4
Lil_Green_Demon Winging It In Life Name: Umar Location: SoCal Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R; 2011 250R (sold) Posts: A lot.	I'd love to buy this as a 2nd bike! The green would be awesome. I'd have my green 250R & green 650R. Win. __________________________________________________ 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (Bought - Apr 22, 2011; Sold - Feb 17, 2015) 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R (Bought - May 01, 2017; Current)

October 10th, 2011, 07:48 AM	#7
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I'm not sure if I'd begin to like it, but that's disgusting. __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2011, 08:45 AM	#9
totaled ninjette.org member Name: Carl Location: Louisiana Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250-SOLD Posts: 58	They sound sick with the two-bros slip on __________________________________________________ "I've given up reading books. I find it takes my mind off myself. -Oscar Levant

October 10th, 2011, 08:52 AM	#10
Live2ride ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cody Location: NoVa Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 06 yzf r6r previously: 09 ninja 250r, black 07 zx6r Posts: A lot.	Wow, the 650r looks a hell of a lot better now! __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2011, 06:36 AM	#2
sombo Newb..... on a steeek! :D Name: Mike Location: Windermere, FL Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Harley Davidson XL883L Sportster Superlow Posts: A lot.	And they did the two-part seat like everyone has been asking for. I watched some of the videos on the Kawasaki site and the seat height is the same but they increased the padding and comfort of the seat. The dash is new with analog tach and digital underneath. They added more vibration dampening throughout, new............ well lots of new styling cues and such. I HAVE to demo one at Biketoberfest to see if she's as sweet as she looks. If she rides as sweet as she looks that will be my next bike, cause omg I love how it looks now.

October 10th, 2011, 06:56 AM	#3
reaubideux Perpetual Newb Name: Jason Location: Imperial, MO Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 MIB Ninja 250R [sold]; 2006 CBR600RR [sold]; 2013 Triumph Street Triple R Posts: 782	Nice. This is back on my "possible next bike" list now. Hated the 1-piece seat and the front-end. The redesigned front-end and 2-piece seat look a lot better. The tubular swingarm looks pretty cool. Don't think I've seen that on a bike before.

October 10th, 2011, 07:22 AM	#5
gt_turbo ninjette.org sage Name: L Location: WI Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 250R, '13 CBR500R Posts: 709	looks better than the last model. also diggin the new paint scheme on the '12 zx6r's. decisions decisions.

October 10th, 2011, 07:31 AM	#6
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	I didn't like the last front face profile and I like it even less now. Too much like the Ninja 1000. Even though the tail was a little worse than the 2009, I liked the 2008 and earlier model better, especially the ones with the cowl-line seat (silver or green passenger area). I also dislike the new "tubular" swingarm and frame that is shaped like the more solid frames of the super sports but made with multiple tubes.

October 10th, 2011, 08:31 AM	#8
Ranor ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: Gozo, Malta Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Pearl White EFI Posts: 86	NO MORE BANANA SEAT F' YEA! http://www.kawasaki.eu/product.asp?Id=3409DE56FF9 ER6N Lookin Hawt! http://www.kawasaki.eu/product.asp?Id=3409DE5B884

October 10th, 2011, 08:57 AM	#11
Ranor ninjette.org member Name: Ian Location: Gozo, Malta Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R Pearl White EFI Posts: 86	Above are the ER6N's new instrumentation. Much better IMO! Below are the ER6F's new dials lookin good aswell

October 10th, 2011, 09:03 AM	#12
AznJoJo ninjette.org Bunny Name: Jojo Location: San Diego Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): none, cuz i'm a loser. Posts: 687	I think the green one looks the best. Maybe I'll just skip on the 250r, save a bit more and just get this as my first bike? hehe jk. I love the 250 too much to do that. __________________________________________________ (\_/) (o.0) c(")(") - baby bunny disapproves of creepy PM's...

October 10th, 2011, 09:18 AM	#13
THE BIG SITT ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 771	Sure this is a dumb question, but do the 650s have clip-ons?

October 10th, 2011, 12:23 PM	#15
THE BIG SITT ninjette.org sage Name: Andy Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: 771	Well that sucks :/

October 10th, 2011, 01:30 PM	#16
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	Hey, I love the new styling and the new mechanical changes are very welcome. This bike is definitely on my next bike list.

October 10th, 2011, 01:40 PM	#17
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	I like it now. I showed it to my mom, she said it's cute like a baby lol. __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2011, 03:18 PM	#19
ruben ninjette.org member Name: ruben Location: MIA Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Civic SI / future 250r Posts: 57	i may just skip the 250 altogether. this bike is sexy!

October 10th, 2011, 03:58 PM	#21
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Looks much better to me, its back on my considerations list pending a demo next summer. Just need to figure something out about those handlebars; I still don't like the way those are. Couldn't you get clipons with risers just like the 250? Saw a few threads on people getting risers from woodcraft but I don't know about clearances and this is a new bike, things might be a little different. __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

October 10th, 2011, 04:19 PM	#22
rusninja Ninjette wanabe :D Name: Ruslan Location: San Jose Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): white 300 :D Posts: A lot.	lololol just changeing the seat alot more people like this bike. :P __________________________________________________ VROOOM vrooom >.>

October 10th, 2011, 05:22 PM	#25
Reddoak ninjette.org guru Name: Bill Location: Orlando Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r - Traded for 2009 ER-6N Posts: 424	I really like the ER-6N instrumentation. Shame they won't bring it to the US again. Wonder if it's possible to retro fit to an 09.... __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2011, 07:04 PM	#29
areifel ninjette.org member Name: Drew Location: Florida Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 194	So these aren't coming to the US? I am looking to upgrade from my 250 without going into the Supersport market.

October 10th, 2011, 07:06 PM	#30
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	The 650R is. The 2010 ER-6n will remain as the current model. __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2011, 11:09 PM	#31
Mazakawi ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 159	90% sure that will be my next bike. I like that it's a more upright seating position over the supersports. Seeing as I do most of my riding with my dad on his Harley being comfortable over a long distance is important.

October 11th, 2011, 04:07 AM	#32
gfloyd2002 User Title Free Since '12 Name: Floyd Location: Barbados Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 Ninja 250R Special Edition Green Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 13 MOTM - Feb '12	Great changes. New styling cues from the supersports improve the looks tremendously, as does the fixed non-banana seat. Massively improved styling. Also like the exhaust, better vibration dampening, new instrument panel is awesome (miles to empty, a feature to tell you when you are maximizing MPG, analog tach), LED's, flushmounts. Also like what they kept, low seat height (but with better padding), narrow profile kept for ease of riding, kept the more upright seating position. Looks like they took the most common aftermarket changes and incorporated them into stock. And fixed the looks. Awesome changes for 2012, awesome retention of best features of 2011. Well done. __________________________________________________ "Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius." — William Blake

October 11th, 2011, 04:52 AM	#36
DjDiablo ninjette.org member Name: Djalma Location: Curitiba-PR BRASIL Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Kawasaki Ninja 250R 2010 - FI - Blue Posts: 90	Sadly in brasil we (Brasil) only got new pait job... And it is not alot of pait job uahauhauhahauh Just a few stripes... What lets me think they did not sell alot of bike and all they are going to do is re-paint the old models and sell as new... And u can clearly see the Brasilian model was only photoshoped.... PICS (Oficial web pages fom Kawasaki Brasil and Kawasaki USA) BRASIL Ninja 650R 2012 USA Ninja 650R 2012 __________________________________________________ Ride = Street Race = Track

October 11th, 2011, 05:05 AM	#37
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	All bike and auto manufacturers do this when they release new models. Selling the older models as new in other countries until they're ready to debut the new model there. __________________________________________________ Ç¥ñï©ª\| ßÿ Ñâ7µ®é. Äñt¡~§º¢Ïä\| ßý Çhøî©è.

October 11th, 2011, 02:20 PM	#40
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	That is one sweet looking ride. Some differences in the specs between the 2012 and 2011 respectively: Compression ratio: 10.8:1 vs. 11.3:1 Frame type: Twin-pipe perimeter design, high-tensile steel vs. Semi-double cradle, high-tensile steel Increased suspension travel: front 4.9in/rear 5.1in vs. front 4.7in/rear 4.9in Fuel capacity: 4.2 gal vs 4.1 Seat height up slightly: 31.7in vs 31.1 Curb weight increased: 460.8 lbs vs. 449.8 lbs Overall length: 83.1 in vs. 82.7 in Overall width: 30.3 in vs. 29.9 in Overall height: 46.5 in vs. 47.2 in

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