February 10th, 2016, 09:56 PM | #1 |
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At wits end trying to bleed front brake after new line install
So I installed new SS brake line. And have been trying to bleed the brake. NO matter how many times I pump the lever, I never feel any pressure build up. Have tried reverse-bleeding by using a syringe on the caliper end. Is there still just too much air in the system? Do I need to get a vacuum pump?
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February 10th, 2016, 10:00 PM | #2 |
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Here's what works for me, YMMV.
Leave the bleeder open, with a hose attached, in a container with CLEAN brake fluid in it. Pump the lever until fluid moves from the master cylinder. Now you can bleed as normal.
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February 10th, 2016, 10:07 PM | #3 |
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yeah I started trying that, but it never pushed much fluid out , dribbles at best. I guess just keep going to get all the air out?
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February 10th, 2016, 10:17 PM | #4 |
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When I did mine, it took a minute or three of pumping before things happened. Don't pump slow, put some effort into it.
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February 10th, 2016, 10:27 PM | #5 |
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Video for reference on the "bleed tube" method. Use a Mt. Dew bottle for added braking power. hahahahahahahah
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you're supposed to bleed with the wheel on the bike.... Be careful when you pry the pads apart. That displaces fluid, which will move back up into your reservoir. If the reservoir is already near full, you might have a mess on your hands as it overflows. It's also easy to damage the pads.
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February 11th, 2016, 10:32 AM | #15 |
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No need! Just use a large, wide blade flat screwdriver and gently pry on the metal part of the brake pad, not the soft brake material.
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If everything is right, you should be able to compress the pads with your hand. If not, it's not clean enough. ijs
But yea, the metal backing part of the pad is safe to pry against.
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Glad you got sorted out I have a TIP for future bleeding problems. If you take the master cylinder off the handle bar with the cap off and hold it at angle so air bubble will come up into the res. you can gently pump lever and watch the air come out. saves you a ton in brake fluid...air rises in line and ends up in master cylinder.
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manuals are great because some factory personal wrote down how they thought it was best on how to do something. Never rule out that there maybe a better way to achieve the same result only faster and better.
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February 14th, 2016, 03:33 PM | #22 |
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Usually you can let gravity do most of the work before you start bleeding with the lever. Even on a dry system the fluid will flow down to the lowest point after a while. When fluid starts dripping out of the bleeder you can close it and start doing the manual bleed procedures.
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When i first got my SS line i had a rough time getting it to bleed. Used a vacuum bleeder to get fluid through the line and then went back to the old school manner. IF no air bubbles are coming out at the caliper you may need to bleed your banjo bolt on the M/C.
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