Official 2013 Ninja 300 (and 250) Thread

[2009zx6rider]

EDIT by @Alex: Initial post accurately predicted that the 2013 would be released as a 300; was deleted before the release date.

[Stingray1000]

Sounds like fun!

[Alex]

I heard it was going to be a 3000.

[Sinister]

I haven't heard anything about this but i will say that the 250 was conspicuous in its absence at the demo days tour this year.

[Malicious Logic]

Looking forward to this 'proof'....and subscribing because I'm too lazy to check back. :P

[Boom King]

Originally Posted by Alex

I heard it was going to be a 3000.

And it includes a centre stand! That's what I'm talking about Kawi

[rceezy]

If it comes with a hot chick, I'm sold.

[Jiggles]

Thank goodness they are redesigning this bike. Many people have the misconception that this bike is a great starter bike but if you look at the sales they are dismal at best. Kawi was being pushed out of the market by its vast amount of competitors like the CBR250. Without a redesign of the tired old 250 Kawasaki was likely headed for bankruptcy.

[Old Lemon]

Subbed. You trollin. But since I am now subscribed I can apologize right quick when something comes up

[Dopamine]

I want proof!!... then i can give you an apology

[Apex]

I honestly think they need to bring back the 400 class. That is the PERFECT bike size.

[Jiggles]

100% agree, 400 is the perfect amount of power with great MPGs

However in America, I don't think anyone (besides me) would consider a 400, they'd jump straight to the 600/650s

[Jiggles]

They also need to bring back 20k redline inline 4 250s

[dirty nasty]

I agree Jiggles. However, too many of our fellow country men are too ****ing stupid to realize that they don't need the power of a 600. They'd rather do wheelies down the highway at 80 MPH. That ain't riding, hence why they're not motorcyclists. It's also unfortunate that the smaller bikes would cost about as much as a larger bike, so nobody is going to go for it in America. They've tried and the class is no more...

[Jiggles]

The 650 has too much power for the street, no one needs that much power let alone a 600 or 1000. Which reminds me I need to go edit my motorcycles

[Apex]

Meh, I think they need to make up a points system. After so many points, you are allowed to upgrade to the next class. That way you don't get those tards that say "I can handle a 1000" when they have never been on a bike before.

It would promote sales and also promote safer riding. Of course, cruiser riders would be screwed.

Maybe
≤300cc sport bike and ≤800cc cruiser for a year or two
≤600cc sport bike and ≤1000cc cruiser for a year or so
then full access.

[dirty nasty]

For public road ways it is my belief that anything over 300cc is absurd. My 250 gets me around much faster than almost any every day vehicle I come across in my travels. I'm not saying one shouldn't ride anything larger than a 250, but some people really need to re-consider their wants vs. their needs. Me, myself, I want a road legal RGV250. However, the Ninja 250 is what I need right now. I'll get my RG someday.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Apex

Meh, I think they need to make up a points system. After so many points, you are allowed to upgrade to the next class. That way you don't get those tards that say "I can handle a 1000" when they have never been on a bike before.

It would promote sales and also promote safer riding. Of course, cruiser riders would be screwed.

Maybe <320cc sport bike and <800cc cruiser for a year or two
then <610cc sport bike and <1000cc cruiser for a year or so
then full access.

I hate when people suggest protecting people from themselves. If you want to get a bike you can't handle, go ahead you have the right to buy anything you want, and I have the right to call you a ****ing idiot But seriously let people do whatever they want to. Take 15yr old robert for example, I 100% support his parents right to buy him an R6. Sure I think he's an idiot for doing so, but it would be even more idiotic to force him to stay on a 250.

Originally Posted by dirty nasty

For public road ways it is my belief that anything over 300cc is absurd. My 250 gets me around much faster than almost any every day vehicle I come across in my travels. I'm not saying one shouldn't ride anything larger than a 250, but some people really need to re-consider their wants vs. their needs. Me, myself, I want a road legal RGV250. However, the Ninja 250 is what I need right now. I'll get my RG someday.

So 40hp on a motorcycle is absurd? Lol. Yes the 250 is a great bike for what it is, but lets be honest, it sucks for 2up and will never come close to being a great touring bike, its comfort level is ok and it's passing power on the highway is mediocre. That's not to say it can't do any of these things, it sure as hell can, but there are better options for different aspects of riding and a rare few of them come in a package under 300ccs

[dirty nasty]

Meh, I've got no problems with 2 up, passing, highway riding, etc. Nobody NEEDS more power. Is it nice to have? Definitely. Do you NEED it? Absolutely not. For public roads thinking that you NEED much more than what a 250cc twin can provide is compensating for poor riding technique. You'll already move much faster than most cage traffic on a 250.

[Jiggles]

Karl, reread my last post, you misunderstood me.

I'd also like to direct you to my sig

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[edxmon]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

100% agree, 400 is the perfect amount of power with great MPGs

However in America, I don't think anyone (besides me) would consider a 400, they'd jump straight to the 600/650s

Yup, you're the only one

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110105

[seanshawnS]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

The 650 has too much power for the street, no one needs that much power let alone a 600 or 1000. Which reminds me I need to go edit my motorcycles

If top speed is what you're talking about.. then sure. But what about torque? Gearing, touring etc. A 250 is going to have to lack in at least one of these areas, simply due to the amount of torque and power it's able to produce(IMO).

[CC Cowboy]

I haven't heard about a 300 but I did notice the 250 isn't in the line-up for 2013. There has been rumors that the 250 Ninja is being dropped due to the enormous amount of riders crashing, then posting about their crash online. The Honda has been given numerous awards for being such a good bike. They are winning all the 250 class races with their new bike. There hasn't been record numbers of riders crashing either.

On a lighter note, the 250 Ninja will become a collector's item ( as long as the condition is mint ) and prices are expecting to be in the $10,000 to $12,500 range with in a few years.

There has been a rush of investors buying out dealers stock in the Kawasaki 250 Ninja which is driving the price up as we speak. They aren't even riders but are Wall Street investors trying to corner the market before the 250 Ninja wannabe riders realize the value of this bike. With new bikes becoming in short supply the asking price will sky rocket very soon.

[edxmon]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I haven't heard about a 300 but I did notice the 250 isn't in the line-up for 2013. There has been rumors that the 250 Ninja is being dropped due to the enormous amount of riders crashing, then posting about their crash online. The Honda has been given numerous awards for being such a good bike. They are winning all the 250 class races with their new bike. There hasn't been record numbers of riders crashing either.

On a lighter note, the 250 Ninja will become a collector's item ( as long as the condition is mint ) and prices are expecting to be in the $10,000 to $12,500 range with in a few years.

There has been a rush of investors buying out dealers stock in the Kawasaki 250 Ninja which is driving the price up as we speak. They aren't even riders but are Wall Street investors trying to corner the market before the 250 Ninja wannabe riders realise the value of this bike. With new bikes becoming in short supply the asking price will sky rocket very soon.

Too much for one post.

Should have split the trolliness into small bite sized posts. I feel overtrolled

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by seanshawnS

If top speed is what you're talking about.. then sure. But what about torque? Gearing, touring etc. A 250 is going to have to lack in at least one of these areas, simply due to the amount of torque and power it's able to produce(IMO).

Top speed is not what I'm talking about. The 650 was a ****ing rocket, it didn't matter what gear I was in nor what speed I always had plenty of power to spare. The only time I could even consider going WOT was if I was in a high enough gear at a low enough speed. I could easily beat any car worth under $1,000,000 and that's with a $7,500 bike that is not even close to the performance of a 600. I whole heartily believe the 650 offers far more power than any biker will ever need on the street

That said it was too slow for me so I picked up the Ninja 1000

[Old Lemon]

Yea you need to ask jiggles or robert to teach you how to troll correctly

[seanshawnS]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

That said it was too slow for me so I picked up the Ninja 1000

[ninjaone]

Originally Posted by dirty nasty

For public road ways it is my belief that anything over 300cc is absurd.

Thank god we have the freedom to be absurd!

If people really only drove what they "need" we'd all be riding around in CBR125Rs and driving air-cooled beetles from the 50s.

[areifel]

This is awesome news!


Still waiting to see if Yamaha surprises us with a 250.

[seanshawnS]

Originally Posted by ninjaone

Thank god we have the freedom to be absurd!

If people really only drove what they "need" we'd all be riding around in CBR125Rs and driving air-cooled beetles from the 50s.

You go too far!

I remember reading a review where the reviewer noted the 125 struggled up certain hills.. now that's just plain dangerous.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Old Lemon

Yea you need to ask jiggles or robert to teach you how to troll correctly

1. Robert isn't a troll

2. Oscar is one of the most entertaining posters on this forum and I can only strive to be as great as him one day

[Jono]

Mmhm 300cc is kinda a weird engine size. Im just gonnna call BS with no future apology for the OP.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Jono

Mmhm 300cc is kinda a weird engine size. Im just gonnna call BS with no future apology for the OP.

It saves on production costs. They simply saw a 600 in half

[Jono]

Ahh, it makes so much sense now.

[JustRidin]

A points system would be interesting, but to agree with a post after that, nobody should restrict the bikes some idiots will ride. To be honest, if they want to go for something too big for them to handle let them suffer the consequences and they'll learn. Tough luck teaches a lot faster. All restricting people does is piss them off and make them likely to do something even more stupid when they can get their hands on a bigger bike.

[choneofakind]

Well, seeing as I've already taken the bait from jiggles once tonight, I'm not biting on this one

But an extra 50cc's would be nice. It would be like a really big bore job on a 250, and if they literally just take half a 600 engine, would they continue the trend with the giant freaking TB's used on 600's to boost the top end? That could be fun. A really high strung 300cc parallel twin.

Anyhow, I'm still betting on a 250. But I'm now going to be paying attention
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[ARc]

Lies

[dirty nasty]

Originally Posted by ninjaone

Thank god we have the freedom to be absurd!

If people really only drove what they "need" we'd all be riding around in CBR125Rs and driving air-cooled beetles from the 50s.

Originally Posted by seanshawnS

You go too far!

^ i agree, that's too far.

I'd love to see a 300cc twin with EFI though. If not EFI maybe they could budget in updated suspension and brakes.

[Apex]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I hate when people suggest protecting people from themselves. If you want to get a bike you can't handle, go ahead you have the right to buy anything you want, and I have the right to call you a ****ing idiot But seriously let people do whatever they want to. Take 15yr old robert for example, I 100% support his parents right to buy him an R6. Sure I think he's an idiot for doing so, but it would be even more idiotic to force him to stay on a 250.

You do have a point. The main thing I was thinking about was small bike sales. Maybe then we can get more updates and better technology in the smaller bikes. I guess then you have to deal with the increased price as well.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Apex

You do have a point. The main thing I was thinking about was small bike sales. Maybe then we can get more updates and better technology in the smaller bikes. I guess then you have to deal with the increased price as well.

Yea the only good that would come of it would be a 400cc class which would ****ing rule.

But if 5 months ago I was told I could not get a 650 I would be ****ing pissed. And if I was told now I could not get my sweet sexy 1000 I'd probably go on a murderous rampage, ****, ban guns next!