motardinn.com - Held Phantom II - $217?

mfresh · March 26th, 2013, 08:37 PM

Does anyone have any experience with these guys?

They seem legit but they are selling these Held Phantom II gloves quite a bit cheaper than anywhere else I've seen...

http://www.motardinn.com/motorcycle-...-black/59628/p

Thoughts?

Bentley813 · March 26th, 2013, 09:39 PM

Looks legit to me:

http://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.motardinn.com
http://www.trustedshops.co.uk/profil...092BC5BF5.html
http://www.scamadviser.com/is-motard...fake-site.html

However, not without the occasional hiccup:
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/view...456&p=17713730

Yasko · March 27th, 2013, 06:05 AM

That's a great deal.

I love my Phantom 1.

CC Cowboy · March 27th, 2013, 07:20 AM

Kangaroo gloves are hoppin' good (according to PETA).

Nemesis · March 27th, 2013, 07:23 AM

Wow! That's a great price. Someone order it and let us know how it goes.

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 08:51 AM

Yeah I am pretty sure I may bite on these. I was looking to buy a pair of the "original" Phantoms on closeout but then I saw these for not much more.

Apparently they are located in Spain.

Comes out to about $232 shipped to US via DHL. Which is still like $60 cheaper than anywhere else...

Hmmm.... What color to get...

Nemesis · March 27th, 2013, 09:55 AM

I only see black as the only color option.

alex.s · March 27th, 2013, 10:10 AM

ddddddddddddddddddddddddamnit!

i JUST bought a pair of a*s... now i want to return them and buy these. fuuuuuuck. first world problems.

lgk · March 27th, 2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

ddddddddddddddddddddddddamnit!

i JUST bought a pair of a*s... now i want to return them and buy these. fuuuuuuck. first world problems.

get both, first world solution

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

ddddddddddddddddddddddddamnit!

i JUST bought a pair of a*s... now i want to return them and buy these. fuuuuuuck. first world problems.

LOL.

They have the different colors on their own product pages: http://www.motardinn.com/motorcycle-...ld/8050-500/sm

Really tempted to go with the red and white as it would match my A* red/white/black 1 piece quite nicely... but black also looks so damn good...

First world problems indeed.

Nemesis · March 27th, 2013, 11:55 AM

If we order in bulk (group buy to those local to each other), I wonder how much shipping will be?

Hmmm...

Oh, I just remembered....it may not be beneficial to us US buyers because you will have to pay custom taxes.

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 12:09 PM

Customs taxes?

I've ordered stuff from China via eBay and never had to pay that... o.O

Nemesis · March 27th, 2013, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfresh

Customs taxes?

I've ordered stuff from China via eBay and never had to pay that... o.O

What is this "stuff" you speak of?

If you buy leather or any materials made from animal skin generally custom duty taxes apply. Some shipping companies in the U.S. will not deliver until the taxes are paid first while other will deliver and bill you later.

I've ordered numerous of motorcycle suits from foreign countries and always got billed custom duty tax. But I can't recall if I got billed for leather gloves (yes, I know these are made out of kangaroo).

Compooky · March 27th, 2013, 12:55 PM

The ulna protection on the phantom ii can feel a little restricting on wrist movement. Just a warning because it might annoy some people for street riding.

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

What is this "stuff" you speak of?

Pretty much just parts for my bike. Levers, windscreen, stuff like that.

Wasn't aware of the customs tax stuff for leathers. Hmm.. Maybe the price includes the tax already?

Good thing to note for sure. Thanks.

menikmati · March 27th, 2013, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfresh

Pretty much just parts for my bike. Levers, windscreen, stuff like that.

Wasn't aware of the customs tax stuff for leathers. Hmm.. Maybe the price includes the tax already?

Good thing to note for sure. Thanks.

Since you're ordering from the US, VAT is excluded but you may have to pay customs/fees upon package arrival. I'm doing research of leather suits and emailed a reseller in Italy and they estimate fees of around $50 for customs.

If you're buying something from China through eBay or Amazon, I don't think you pay customs.

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 02:36 PM

It wouldn't be nearly as awesome if we have to pay $50 in custom fees...

Nemesis · March 27th, 2013, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menikmati

If you're buying something from China through eBay or Amazon, I don't think you pay customs.

If it's shipped from vendor to you directly you still pay custom duty tax.

r6boater · March 27th, 2013, 02:55 PM

LionHeart Moto has roo palmed gauntlet gloves that you can even get with a GP pinky bridge for only $85!

Custom colors too!

Here are the ones my son wears...

https://www.facebook.com/LionHeartMo...type=1&theater

menikmati · March 27th, 2013, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

If it's shipped from vendor to you directly you still pay custom duty tax.

Didn't know that, thanks.

menikmati · March 27th, 2013, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfresh

It wouldn't be nearly as awesome if we have to pay $50 in custom fees...

Well, it was for a $1k suit.

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 08:48 PM

I emailed the guys at MotardInn about the customs fees.

Curious to see what they say.

mfresh · March 27th, 2013, 09:28 PM

Apologies for the double post.

I may just go with the "original" Phantom gloves from sportbiketrackgear.

Does anyone know how the fit is on the Held Phantom gloves? Do they run small, true to size?

Looks like I have an 8" in palm. I like a "snug" fit so I am curious if I should go with the 8 (medium) or perhaps a 7.5 instead (small +).

I currently have a pair of AGV Sport Laguna gloves in "small" and they actually fit a bit loose. I had a pair of AGV Sport Dragon gloves prior, also in small, and they were a bit loose as well.

Maybe AGV Sport gloves just run big or something, but I would like to get some gloves that fit... well like a glove lol.

tfkrocks · March 27th, 2013, 10:32 PM

When I bought my Phantoms, I was originally going to get a size 7 as my palm seemed to measure to that size. Ended up getting a 6.5 since 7 was all sold out and they had already been discontinued. They fit pretty snug in the beginning and loosened out a bit (though that might partially be because of my trying to wear glove liners for longer cold rides). I think they fit great now.

Nemesis · March 28th, 2013, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfresh

I emailed the guys at MotardInn about the customs fees.

Curious to see what they say.

That's like them asking us how much VAT costs would be for them or if applicable if they bought leathers from us.

Who you need to ask is U.S. customs. Look online...it specifies their policy & regulations.

mfresh · March 28th, 2013, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

That's like them asking us how much VAT costs would be for them or if applicable if they bought leathers from us.

Who you need to ask is U.S. customs. Look online...it specifies their policy & regulations.

Yeah...

I think it's something like ~5% fee on leather "sport" gloves. I don't think that includes a possible fee that DHL may charge you in addition.

It will most likely still come out a bit cheaper than just ordering from the usual US distributors, but ehh... I'll probably just go for the Phantom I's.

Now to figure out my other problem... black or red/white gloves...

March 26th, 2013, 08:37 PM	#1
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	motardinn.com - Held Phantom II - $217? Does anyone have any experience with these guys? They seem legit but they are selling these Held Phantom II gloves quite a bit cheaper than anywhere else I've seen... http://www.motardinn.com/motorcycle-...-black/59628/p Thoughts? __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

March 27th, 2013, 07:20 AM	#4
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Kangaroo gloves are hoppin' good (according to PETA). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!
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March 27th, 2013, 07:23 AM	#5
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	Wow! That's a great price. Someone order it and let us know how it goes. __________________________________________________

March 27th, 2013, 08:51 AM	#6
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	Yeah I am pretty sure I may bite on these. I was looking to buy a pair of the "original" Phantoms on closeout but then I saw these for not much more. Apparently they are located in Spain. Comes out to about $232 shipped to US via DHL. Which is still like $60 cheaper than anywhere else... Hmmm.... What color to get... __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

March 27th, 2013, 09:55 AM	#7
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	I only see black as the only color option. __________________________________________________

March 26th, 2013, 09:39 PM	#2
Bentley813 ninjette.org member Name: Steve Location: Oswego, NY Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White 300 Posts: 221	Looks legit to me: http://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.motardinn.com http://www.trustedshops.co.uk/profil...092BC5BF5.html http://www.scamadviser.com/is-motard...fake-site.html However, not without the occasional hiccup: http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/view...456&p=17713730

March 27th, 2013, 06:05 AM	#3
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	That's a great deal. I love my Phantom 1.

March 27th, 2013, 10:10 AM	#8
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	ddddddddddddddddddddddddamnit! i JUST bought a pair of a*s... now i want to return them and buy these. fuuuuuuck. first world problems. __________________________________________________

March 27th, 2013, 11:55 AM	#11
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	If we order in bulk (group buy to those local to each other), I wonder how much shipping will be? Hmmm... Oh, I just remembered....it may not be beneficial to us US buyers because you will have to pay custom taxes. __________________________________________________

March 27th, 2013, 12:09 PM	#12
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	Customs taxes? I've ordered stuff from China via eBay and never had to pay that... o.O __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

March 27th, 2013, 12:55 PM	#14
Compooky ninjette.org member Name: Garry Location: Quincy Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 ninja 250r, 2013 gsxr 600 Posts: 93	The ulna protection on the phantom ii can feel a little restricting on wrist movement. Just a warning because it might annoy some people for street riding.

March 27th, 2013, 02:36 PM	#17
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	It wouldn't be nearly as awesome if we have to pay $50 in custom fees... __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

March 27th, 2013, 02:55 PM	#19
r6boater ninjette.org member Name: Kurt Location: Knoxville Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): '04 R1 and '08 Ninja 250 Posts: 222	LionHeart Moto has roo palmed gauntlet gloves that you can even get with a GP pinky bridge for only $85! Custom colors too! Here are the ones my son wears... https://www.facebook.com/LionHeartMo...type=1&theater __________________________________________________ Check out this Ninja 250 roadracing youth---> TheDraik77 <--- My son

March 27th, 2013, 08:48 PM	#22
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	I emailed the guys at MotardInn about the customs fees. Curious to see what they say. __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

March 27th, 2013, 09:28 PM	#23
mfresh Knee-dragger in Training Name: Manny Location: Buford, GA Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): '09 Ninja 250R (Sunbeam Red) Posts: 319	Apologies for the double post. I may just go with the "original" Phantom gloves from sportbiketrackgear. Does anyone know how the fit is on the Held Phantom gloves? Do they run small, true to size? Looks like I have an 8" in palm. I like a "snug" fit so I am curious if I should go with the 8 (medium) or perhaps a 7.5 instead (small +). I currently have a pair of AGV Sport Laguna gloves in "small" and they actually fit a bit loose. I had a pair of AGV Sport Dragon gloves prior, also in small, and they were a bit loose as well. Maybe AGV Sport gloves just run big or something, but I would like to get some gloves that fit... well like a glove lol. __________________________________________________ North GA Riders

March 27th, 2013, 10:32 PM	#24
tfkrocks ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rebecca Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300 w/ ABS, 2014 NC700X, 2008 Ninja 250 (sold), 2002 Ninja 250 (sold) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jan '18, Sep '13	When I bought my Phantoms, I was originally going to get a size 7 as my palm seemed to measure to that size. Ended up getting a 6.5 since 7 was all sold out and they had already been discontinued. They fit pretty snug in the beginning and loosened out a bit (though that might partially be because of my trying to wear glove liners for longer cold rides). I think they fit great now.

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