Global Warming

[CC Cowboy]

I'd like to thank President Trump for global warming. Now I can ride all winter. The guy really knows his stuff. If this global warming keeps up I'll be living on the waterfront soon.

[MLR]

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150...orld-super-hot

How old is Trump

[Triple Jim]

My daughter and I had a really nice 100 mile ride around the lake today, on twisty very lightly traveled very back roads, in 75 degree sunny weather. I rode My Guzzi and she rode the 250. I had no idea the Donald helped make this happen, but I do thank him if he did.

[Schweedo]

I took my last ride of 2016 on dec 5th and the first of this year on feb 18th... if you don't at least acknowledge climate change I don't trust you.

[Snake]

Globes warming????? Here in Northern California they are talking about being able to ski on the 4th of July.

What global warming????

[Elongo06]

Got the bikes out on February 18th. That was a nice stretch of weather in the 60's. 78 yesterday. Totally unheard of.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Snake

Globes warming????? Here in Northern California they are talking about being able to ski on the 4th of July.

What global warming????

Unfortunately for you, President Trump only does things for the United States of America. Since California is actually part of Mexico the fence will be along Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, then north along Nevada). Besides, scientists have predicted that with all this rain and snow in California the Andreas Fault will break California in two right down the middle of the state. The left will float off towards China and the right will be incorporated into Nevada.

Long live Francisco "Pancho" Villa.

[snot]

Earth has been warming since the ice age.... I blame the dinasors.

[MLR]

Originally Posted by snot

Earth has been warming since the ice age.... I blame the dinasors.

And the cattle.

Also, whcih ice age are we talking about, the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, Karoo Ice Age or the Quaternary glaciation ?

[MLR]

Sorry for being serious for a moment BUT have a look at all the ice core date over the last 500,000 years.

As long as you can keep politics and religion out of the picture it looks like the earth is just carrying on as per usual.

Disclaimer: The dust ppm is at it's highest point though, but it has been for the last 50,000 years, so I doubt that Trump is the reason for that, I'm not saying he isn't, I'm just saying, at this stage of my research, it seems unlikely.

Disclaimer on the disclaimer: this has nothing to do with the pollutants and the overpopulation that we are loading up the planet with, it's simple math that states we are heading towards a tipping point, it's basically the same as having to many livestock in a paddock.

At least when we do hit that point, the earth, over time will recover, at least until the sun dies in about 5 billion years and engulfs the earth when it goes supernova.

Fun times.

Anyways, it's time to go down to the garage and swap out my brake pads, hopefully the world doesn't end before I can finish.

[MLR]

All is well, pads were swapped out without even a minor natural or man-made disaster or event.

As you were.

[snot]

@MLR
Biology, chemistry, geology, climatology.... Which one is your field?

My chemistry and biology professors would agree with you.

Oh, and at any time one of the numerous meteors could hit the earth and end life as we know it.

[MLR]

Im 51 and love to research stuff I dont understand.

I picked up a rock as a kid and it ended up being a bit of fossilized wood, I wanted to know it's story so I had a look into basic geology, that lead to chemistry then biology.

Ive been doing it ever since.

Spent alot of time on climate, agriculture and sustainable population.

My favorite subject is what is a sustainable population, some good theories and data out there, but we are so far past what is sustainable to have a good quality of life and not rape the earth it's not funny, I basically just keep up to date and wonder if the majority of the populace know about what's going on undertheir noses.

Im currently looking into the theory of the 6th mass extinction, interesting.

I find that we are a fairly stupid animal, most generally look no further back than a few generations and no further forward than their life time.

Anyways, as Ive said, we are stupid but at least our beer is cold.

[Snake]

Originally Posted by snot

Earth has been warming since the ice age.... I blame the dinasors.

Yup, methane gas. Worse than C o2 gas.

[MLR]

Originally Posted by Snake

Yup, methane gas. Worse than C o2 gas.

http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1...hane-hydrates/

[Snake]

Originally Posted by MLR

http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1...hane-hydrates/

Very enlightening. Thanks for the good read.

[greg737]

The real effect of global warming (which, as noted earlier in this thread, is a normal occurrence during an interglacial period) on your lifetime and mine will not be environmental, but instead Societal.

It is a great, overarching truth of human existence that almost no one sees the next big religion coming (as societal size and complexity grew Animism gave way to Ancestor Worship gave way to Pantheons of Gods gave way to Monotheisms...), but I'm here to tell you that the next great religion of this world will be "The Religion of Man-Caused Global Warming.".

It's the perfect way for all the power-hungry globalists to rein us all into the same corral and control us.

(And, of course, the One-World-Religion nature of this power play won't be made obvious too early in the game. Instead it'll come at you in an Obamacare sort of way, "If you like your current God, you can keep your current God.")

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

Unfortunately for you, President Trump only does things for the United States of America. Since California is actually part of Mexico the fence will be along Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, then north along Nevada). Besides, scientists have predicted that with all this rain and snow in California the Andreas Fault will break California in two right down the middle of the state. The left will float off towards China and the right will be incorporated into Nevada.

Long live Francisco "Pancho" Villa.

oh man, PLEASE let this be true. we can go hang out with new zealand and australia. alaska and hawaii can come too. and maybe colorado.

[Rifleman]

I've always asked, and not received any answer...

are there any beneficial effects of planetary warming?


could you imagine if we could grow citrus in northern Illinois? Tangerines the size of grape fruit, and grape fruit the size of watermelons...

less fuel burned to keep our near hairless pink hides warm...

oh yeah, year round motorcycle use in Moose Jaw, Saskatoon.

[CC Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Rifleman

I've always asked, and not received any answer...

are there any beneficial effects of planetary warming?

oh yeah, year round motorcycle use in Moose Jaw, Saskatoon.

That's benefit enough for me!

[VaFish]

Originally Posted by Rifleman

I've always asked, and not received any answer...

are there any beneficial effects of planetary warming?


could you imagine if we could grow citrus in northern Illinois? Tangerines the size of grape fruit, and grape fruit the size of watermelons...

less fuel burned to keep our near hairless pink hides warm...

oh yeah, year round motorcycle use in Moose Jaw, Saskatoon.

I rode my motorcycle 10 of the last 11 days, in February. That's enough benefit for me.

[Snake]

+1 for me. I like it warm.

[VaFish]

I want my global warming back.

6"-10" of snow tonight and lows in the teens and twenty's for the next week.

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by VaFish

I want my global warming back.

6"-10" of snow tonight and lows in the teens and twenty's for the next week.

Global warming one day ice age the next... Sounds like the weather machine has a mind of its own

[corksil]

Originally Posted by Rifleman

I've always asked, and not received any answer...

are there any beneficial effects of planetary warming?

Well... if you're in the HVAC industry, you will have great job security.

heating/venting/air-conditioning..

There is no shortage of people trying to regulate the temperature of their tiny contained climate with complete disregard for the effect it may have on those less fortunate.

Living right on the equator -- I can definitely attest to the reality of global warming. I think 'location' is one of the main reasons that people try to deny it's existence. If you aren't near the equator, you won't see the full effect.

Tropical storms, extreeeemly high UV index for weeks at a time, flooding, monsoon rains which wash out entire towns.. these things are very real for those close enough to the equator to witness firsthand.

I'm no saint. I'm perfectly content to run the A/C in my full size truck with the windows up while going through a drive-through for some terrible mass-production "food." Meanwhile, any other poor soul less fortunate than I has to breathe my diesel exhaust and crankcase vapor to the detriment of their lungs. The "not my problem" philosophy is incredibly easy once you understand how it works in practice.

We are cattle. Largely at the mercy of the regulating bodies that have been in place for many years. Those regulating bodies do not have the best interest of the average man at heart. They are 'for-profit' corporations run by the best and brightest sharks in the tank.

The only advice I can give is to educate yourself and be smart.

A la MLR [and I paraphrase] -- "ALARA, minimize exposure to "As Low As Reasonably Achievable." That's the best advice I have heard in a very long time.

I've heard that in many parts of china, children are not permitted to leave home without donning blaze-orange outfits due to the smog levels reaching constant and continual record highs. Air pollution so thick that you physically cannot see your child if it wanders more than 25 feet from you.

Improvise, adapt, and overcome.

[Dangit I really need to keep my negativity in check. You guys probably didn't want to read all of that mood-souring verbal diarrhea.]

[JohnnyBravo]

I want the 80's back when the sky looked like the sky and life was simple

[Panda]

Originally Posted by MLR

Sorry for being serious for a moment BUT have a look at all the ice core date over the last 500,000 years.

As long as you can keep politics and religion out of the picture it looks like the earth is just carrying on as per usual.

I'm confused. Is your position that anthropogenic climate change is not occuring?

[DEFY]

If we just put all the mercury back the planet can get back to regulating its climate control more effectively.

[JohnnyBravo]

Originally Posted by DEFY

If we just put all the mercury back the planet can get back to regulating its climate control more effectively.

how does that work?
I think all the Mercury bulbs, Mercury cars, and thermometers in landfills and junk yards are taking care of that slowly.

[DEFY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

how does that work?
I think all the Mercury bulbs, Mercury cars, and thermometers in landfills and junk yards are taking care of that slowly.

Planet Works like this, Right????



Or we can just surround the planet in a dome, like in Spaceballs, and then install a Nest.

[JohnnyBravo]

I thought we had a dome?

[corksil]

Originally Posted by DEFY

If we just put all the mercury back the planet can get back to regulating its climate control more effectively.

Bravo! We need more minds like this.

The periodic table of the elements is such a simple diagram. Yet it contains enough information to make perfect sense of every single occurrence one experiences in day to day life.

Reminds me of the clinical trials of lithium upon the human brain. Very similar stuff, seeing as the human body AND planet are composed primarily of water. It's all about regulating flow.

It is human nature to meddle in affairs that should not be. Humanity will always attempt to mimic their idea of a "god" for the sake of their own selfish desires.

[MLR]

Originally Posted by Panda

I'm confused. Is your position that anthropogenic climate change is not occuring?

No, pollutants are playing a part to to escalate the natural climatic changes.

I though I explained that in my "disclaimer to the disclaimer" back in post #10.

Sorry for the confusion.

[MLR]

All Gore should revisit his inconvenient truth.

[allanoue]

@MLR you are close on the demise of the earth but just to be accurate the sun will not go supernova but will turn into a red giant and expand to about the orbit of the earth in about 5 billion years. However, life on earth will be long gone. In about 1 billion years, with a 10% increase in the sun's brightness there will be no liquid water and with the oceans vaporized the atmosphere will be much like Venus. Mars will be in the Goldilocks zone at that point.

[MLR]

Originally Posted by allanoue

@MLR you are close on the demise of the earth but just to be accurate the sun will not go supernova but will turn into a red giant and expand to about the orbit of the earth in about 5 billion years. However, life on earth will be long gone. In about 1 billion years, with a 10% increase in the sun's brightness there will be no liquid water and with the oceans vaporized the atmosphere will be much like Venus. Mars will be in the Goldilocks zone at that point.

I'll put in my diary.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by MLR

I'll put in my diary.

Keep at that research of yours, looks like you enjoy doing it.

[Snake]

Originally Posted by allanoue

@MLR you are close on the demise of the earth but just to be accurate the sun will not go supernova but will turn into a red giant and expand to about the orbit of the earth in about 5 billion years. However, life on earth will be long gone. In about 1 billion years, with a 10% increase in the sun's brightness there will be no liquid water and with the oceans vaporized the atmosphere will be much like Venus. Mars will be in the Goldilocks zone at that point.

Looks like I need to buy land on mars for my descendants.

[MLR]

Originally Posted by Snake

Looks like I need to buy land on mars for my descendants.

Start by selling your beach front properties

[Snake]

Originally Posted by MLR

Start by selling your beach front properties

Yea my beach front property in Arizona.