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Old October 5th, 2015, 01:53 PM   #1
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back protectors - hard shell type or soft?

I'm looking for a back protector, which I plan on wearing all the time on the street. I am going to get something top of the line, and I think I've pretty much narrowed it down to either the Forcefield Sub 4 or the Tryonic 3.7. Both of these are apparently sub-CE Level 2. The main difference is that one (Forcefield) is a soft foam-based protector, and the other is a hard segmented "crocodile" type.

I can't decide - I'm more impressed with Forecefield and their reputation. On the other hand, there's something reassuring about the hard shell, but that's not based on anything scientific.

Which one would you go for?
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Old October 5th, 2015, 02:29 PM   #2
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For me it wasn't the impact protection (both types do a fine job) that made the decision for a street back/chest protector, it was the pierce/cut resistance. So I went hardshell.
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Old October 5th, 2015, 03:35 PM   #3
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Forcefield does have a shell, but it's not rigid. That's in contrast to the 3DO or Sas-Tec protectors, which are nothing but foam.

My street protector is Forcefield and I was using the brand for the track, but have recently switched to the new A* for fit reasons.

Regarding your question of shell vs. no shell....

Ask a turtle. There's your answer.
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Old October 6th, 2015, 08:55 AM   #4
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Thanks...I am leaning towards the hard shell type. But I'm not so sure I should settle on the Tryonic one so quickly. I was reading up a little on the CE standards, and it seems that one of the requirements is that sizing should be based on the shoulder to waist measurement. They haven't bothered to do that it from what I see, and in fact it looks like very few manufacturers have. If they feel at liberty to pick and choose which bits of the standard they stick to, it makes me wonder if the famous "3.7" claim is really worth anything. The Dainese Manis looks really cool - they have the proper sizing and I like the fact that the plates overlap, so there are no gaps. They don't make any claims about the protection other than that it's Level 2, but since no one provides anything to substantiate these claims anyway, I'm not sure it really matters. Decisions decisions...I am a geek and an overthinker when it comes to this stuff
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Old October 6th, 2015, 09:36 AM   #5
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I'd get a back protector that has scapula protection as well.
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Old October 6th, 2015, 03:58 PM   #6
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I have this same internal debate, but with tacos.
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Old October 6th, 2015, 06:31 PM   #8
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Old October 8th, 2015, 05:48 PM   #9
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Because paying too much for a CE level 1 vest that has all kinds of design flaws is a great time!

Been there done that, honey. I don't recommend the Icon Stryker vest. You don't get what you pay for, unless you're really wanting to pay for that Sci-Fi-video-game-armor look.
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I have the Bohn, this model has been discontinued unfortunately.

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Old October 9th, 2015, 11:20 AM   #12
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Someone suggested this one to me also:

https://www.planet-knox.com/product/...ack-protector/

It has the scapula protection too.
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I have the "stunter" icon stryker back/chest protector. Quality product that is inexpensive, very versatile but kinda bulky, but will do it's job in the time of need. Tested it personally multiple times at high rates of speed .

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Someone suggested this one to me also:

https://www.planet-knox.com/product/...ack-protector/

It has the scapula protection too.
knox is a great brand, quality and plenty of my friends have battle tested them on the street and track. Hard to go wrong there.
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Old October 9th, 2015, 04:33 PM   #14
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Someone suggested this one to me also:

https://www.planet-knox.com/product/...ack-protector/

It has the scapula protection too.
Nice, that's a bit newer than mine, I've had their previous model for years, it's very comfortable and has done a good job (Point to note- running down 1:1 steep stairs in full leathers sends you on your arse... the back protector had me slide like a toboggan & not feel a thing. This has happened more than once)

https://www.planet-knox.com/product/...rcycle-jacket/

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