July 2nd, 2011, 10:41 AM | #1 |
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Went down today
So I'm going south on Washington Ave and 12th when a cager decides to change lanes. I locked up the front and went down like a rock. It was in slow motion. I went left and pushed the bike right, I managed to get my hands and knees out (many years of skating vert ramp) and slid about 10 feet on my gloves and knee pads(get some boys and girls). Of course cage kept on going.
I'm 95% ok, slight friction burn on left knee from knee pad (hurts like hell) other than that knee pads, gloves and boots did their jobs. Bike is ok except for scratched up lower fairing broken turn signal and re-twisted the hell out of my shifter. Oh well. It was bound to happen, glad it wasn't worse. F'ng Cagers! |
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July 2nd, 2011, 10:47 AM | #2 |
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Glad you were wearing your gear - I feel like an idiot when I think about not using all my gear (i.e. lower body protection, full boots, etc.). I always think about what a fool I would feel like if I was injured in an area that I have protection for, but wasn't wearing.
Hope the knee heals quickly... |
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July 2nd, 2011, 10:49 AM | #3 |
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sorry to hear it man. i've had almost the exact same thing happen, but she actually pegged my front wheel when it happened to me. took off just the same as well. *fist shake*
how fast were you going? pics?
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July 2nd, 2011, 10:55 AM | #4 |
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20-25 tops, all I saw was a turn signal and then a van, lol.
Yeah, all the gear all the time. I was actually not wearing a jacket cause of the heat, just my back and chest protector. |
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July 2nd, 2011, 11:25 AM | #5 |
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Glad you are ok man. That **** is bound to happen....especially with cagers who don't look both ways but just change lanes.
We all know LOUD PIPES don't save lives but when I'm riding 20-25 mph my pipe is soooooo annoying that "some" cagers do hear me and notice.....and if that 1 cager heard me and was going to change lanes into me, but heard my annoying ass pipe...well the rest is history...defensive driving always wins. What do you think you could've done to avoid this? I always go back and think what could I have done because we have NO control over others. |
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July 2nd, 2011, 11:31 AM | #6 |
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Not sure if I had a lot of options. I could have tried to swerve back into the lane where cage was, but all that came to mind was stop! I just had brand new brakes and steel lines put in last weekend, so there is a possibility that the brakes grabbed way more than what I was used to. I was kind of trying to swerve away and that definitely helped the lock up.
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July 2nd, 2011, 11:37 AM | #7 |
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That sounds about right...grabbing a whole lot of brake out of surprise....live and learn but at least you are ok.
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July 2nd, 2011, 11:54 AM | #8 |
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after i locked up my front and got pegged and lost it in a similar situation i practiced my panic stops until my front brake pads and tire were pretty far gone. not sure if i'll always remember what i learned that month of practicing when the time comes but i know it helped me at least once. about 2 months after it happened i was lane splitting and a truck decided to try to kill me. looking to the right with a signal to the right, he randomly decided to change lanes left. i wound up lifting the rear into the air and managed to set it down just before the back of truck. went from about 20-0 in i'd estimate 15 feet... not sure how accurate that is since the adrenaline makes your distances go out the window.
the biggest thing i can say is stay smooth. my panic stop goes something like; half brake until the front dives, directly after the front dives, ease onto full brake. if your rear is lifting too fast, let off maybe 5%. if your front lock, ditch the brakes and try to steer out of it. certain situations (lane splitting for example) mean you have no chance of steering out of it so in that case try to recover the traction by maybe only ditching half brakes... at least you'll slow the impact a bit.
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July 2nd, 2011, 01:33 PM | #9 |
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Good news for me! Most of the damage was easy to fix with some crazy glue and electrical tape. Hit the fairings with 1000 grit wet sandpaper and color match wax. Except for grinned down bar ends and clutch lever, as well as bent to sh_t shifter, bike looks perfect from 10 feet away.
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July 2nd, 2011, 01:45 PM | #10 | |
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July 2nd, 2011, 01:47 PM | #11 |
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Sorry to hear you got sent down by a cager. And then they ran off just to make things that much worse.
I hope to get a video system up on my bike soon so if this kind of thing happens to me, I'll know where to find them. I saw a poll on a website (I don't remember which one) but it asked "Have you ever left the scene of a car accident you were involved in without stopping?" I was pretty shocked to find that about 30% of the respondents said "yes". That is a freakin huge number. Of course web polls aren't all that scientific, but still, 30%. Hope you and your bike heal up nice. Also, if you bend your shifter back, make sure you take it off first. |
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July 2nd, 2011, 02:01 PM | #12 | |
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My bad, the wax, is not color match! Its just carnauba spray wax. Its been on the shelf since 2 cars ago. Ill post pics of the bike, but like I said, it looks fine. Some of you might think I'm lying, for sympathy. Lol |
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July 2nd, 2011, 02:19 PM | #13 | |
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I started looking for a replacement with a folding peg, but never found one. A lot of other bikes have folding pegs so if you lay it down, the shifter isn't toast. Worst case, a brand new shifter is about $30. Occasionally, you'll see them on ebay for less. If you have insurance, maybe check with them to see if they can do anything for you. |
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July 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM | #14 |
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The new gen. has folding pegs, so basically as I'll show in pictures there was 4 points of contact the bar-end/shifter lever, the rear swing arm slider, the foot shifter/kickstand and the farthest most out part of the fairing. The bike slid about 10 feet, a whole car length. You can see the bar ends how far they got ground down.
Here you can see where the fairing cracked a little, the turn signal broke between the stock and the bulb housing, easy crazy glue/electrical tape fix. (wires had come loose, had to reconnect) The rear fairing got a little scratched, buffed most of it out. The tail light came loose and the left rear fairing had popped out of place, managed to re-bolt everything back on, but rear light is a little crooked (lost a bolt). You can also see how bent the foot shifter is. This little $15 dollar piece of metal was a big win! And lastly... Like I said, the bike looks 100% from 5 feet away. There are some visible scratches along the fairing but my camera isn't good enough to really pick them up. My knee is not even worth a picture. |
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July 2nd, 2011, 02:56 PM | #15 |
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Thats why we need to invent a stick to attach to the bike if a cage gets to close you tap on there car x]
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July 2nd, 2011, 03:11 PM | #16 |
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I gotta do something to protect my knees. I ride in full gear except the pants. Still riding in blue jeans..... I know I know.......
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July 2nd, 2011, 03:49 PM | #17 |
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she doesn't look bad at all. two vices and a hammer plus sanding and paint after should fix that shifter lever.
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July 2nd, 2011, 03:53 PM | #18 | |
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the skin under my leathers got torn up under the impact covers even though the leather was almost fine. err... but yes... get better gear
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July 2nd, 2011, 03:55 PM | #19 | |
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Glad you're both OK Cab. Youre right though, if you didn't put arrows to the scuffs, I would've called bulls**t. Very lucky man. Shame you didn't get a license plate, but at least you remembered your skin-savers. Hope the knee heals quick. Also, I think Richard from RaceBikeRentals may still have a spare shifter lever or two for relatively cheap (along with a handful of other parts), listed in the marketplace.
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July 2nd, 2011, 04:05 PM | #21 |
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And here I was just thinking they were to draw your eyes away from the butt-ugly bikes. Learn something every day
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July 2nd, 2011, 04:09 PM | #22 |
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Proves once again, this with an experienced adept rider, it can happen to anyone, everybody out there.
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July 2nd, 2011, 04:11 PM | #23 |
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July 2nd, 2011, 04:45 PM | #24 |
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Cab, I have lost all respect for you. Crashing is for dummies!
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July 2nd, 2011, 04:59 PM | #25 |
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July 2nd, 2011, 05:04 PM | #26 |
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Glad you and the bike are ok!
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July 3rd, 2011, 06:37 AM | #27 | |
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July 5th, 2011, 07:59 AM | #28 | |
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Pass 'em at warp speed!!! jk jk jk. A little bit of space equals a very happy face. Do you (OP) think a bit more space allowance by you would have prevented them from getting you?
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July 5th, 2011, 12:18 PM | #30 |
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I agree with you to a certain degree but there is a chance "something" can happen. Riding motorcycles involves chance....I've ridden as you've suggested but even having 100% control of where you ride can end in a mishap. I've been riding for over 15 years....I've seen weird things happen even if you drive as defensively as one wants.
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July 5th, 2011, 12:25 PM | #31 |
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I have had to slam my breaks at least three times to avoid going into the door of a cager yapping on the cell phone and either rolling through a stop sign aor just not plain looking. All three times, my breaks screetched like hell and my rear tire went to the side but straightened out. My question is, did you hit the front breaks alone???? or did you jam on both at the same time? Being a noobie I like to know these things to try and avoid as many mistakes as possible.
Thanks!
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so far... 3 x's sucess! LOL... so I totally agree, It happens alot!!! Silly cagers!
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July 5th, 2011, 01:45 PM | #34 |
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I think he's suggesting practice because you said this:
I believe a correct emergency stop shouldn't lock up either wheel, since it takes more distance to stop when you're skidding.
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July 5th, 2011, 01:48 PM | #35 |
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July 5th, 2011, 03:26 PM | #36 |
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Glad you're ok... Any photos of your knee pads and gear???
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July 5th, 2011, 05:18 PM | #37 |
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Glad to hear you are ok.
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July 6th, 2011, 05:26 AM | #38 |
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OHHHHHHHH... gotcha!!!!!! LOL... So if done correctly, no screetching at all huh??? Eeeesh... lots of practice ahead then
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