Mulholland Twisties on 50mph Electric Bicycle

akima · October 19th, 2013, 09:37 AM

Link to original page on YouTube.

A friend sent me a link to this. It's an impressive bike.

In the UK I'm pretty sure that / that bicycle would be classed as a scooter. Electric bicycles are only considered bicycles here if they're below a certain power rating. So you'd probably [technically] need tax, licensing and vehicle inspection for it.

If legally that is a bicycle in some/all of the states then that opens up a lot of cool opportunities for you guys... like legal lane splitting in non-cali states! You could commute to work through heavy city traffic at speed!

I'm really confused about what to think in terms of protection. It's common place to see road riders in lycra travelling at high speed on roads like that. They usually just have a pair of gloves and a helmet for protection. Does it make sense to wear more protection on this kind of bike? After all, you don't need so much freedom of movement because the bike isn't purely human powered like a traditional road bicycle. I'm pretty sure road cyclists would wear more protection if it wasn't so prohibitive... chafing!

When I visit the Alps to go mountain biking I wear a full face, knee/shin pads and gloves. Occasionally I end up on a downhill road at the end of a trail and I'll easily get over 50mph. Ordinarily I'd never travel that quick on a motorcycle without full gear head to toe.

Joshorilla · October 19th, 2013, 10:01 AM

That's a fairly interesting video Akima, in the UK I believe electric bikes all need to be assisted, so that they only work to contribute a certain percentage of the power at the wheel requiring you to pedal also, if they were manufactured before a certain date they can be fully electric, plus they are limited to something like half a HP which is about the same as a person. I am sure this would be classed as a moped.

It's neet to see more electric vehicles, I am in the process of chatting to www.evc.gg about getting my Mercedes A-Class converted to electric. Less than a penny a mile to run, yes please!

allanoue · October 19th, 2013, 10:20 AM

If it can go over 20 it does need to be registered as a moped. Mine has a 48 volt and can do 30. I just kept it under 20 around cops. If you are pedaling hard cops will think you're just a bicycle.

dfox · October 19th, 2013, 10:21 AM

it depends on the state, but here in MA, you cannot ride a motorized bicycle over 25 mph legally.

allanoue · October 19th, 2013, 10:29 AM

My ebike

I stopped riding it when I got my Ninja. My dog was not happy about that.

Joshorilla · October 19th, 2013, 10:29 AM

It's funny having a speed restriction, most places in europe limit power output as it's easy enforce, easier to measure and directly impacts speed anyway.

allanoue · October 19th, 2013, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshorilla

It's funny having a speed restriction, most places in europe limit power output as it's easy enforce, easier to measure and directly impacts speed anyway.

It is stupid to not do it by power. 20 is easy to go with a regular bike.

akima · October 19th, 2013, 11:00 AM

@allanoue: I like the photo!

allanoue · October 19th, 2013, 11:12 AM

Thanks

choneofakind · October 19th, 2013, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanoue

It is stupid to not do it by power. 20 is easy to go with a regular bike.

That's what I was thinking! With a pace line and some half-competant cyclists, you can average 20-22 mph for a couple hours. Does that classify us as scooters?

rasta · October 19th, 2013, 04:11 PM

What I would give to see a bicyclist in full leathers

choneofakind · October 19th, 2013, 06:24 PM

I would never wear full leathers on a bicycle. Heatstroke.

azian4lifz · October 19th, 2013, 07:55 PM

yo that's a sweet bicycle. it looks like it wud be sweet for the bicycle path just cruising LOL

October 19th, 2013, 09:37 AM	#1
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	Mulholland Twisties on 50mph Electric Bicycle Link to original page on YouTube. A friend sent me a link to this. It's an impressive bike. In the UK I'm pretty sure that / that bicycle would be classed as a scooter. Electric bicycles are only considered bicycles here if they're below a certain power rating. So you'd probably [technically] need tax, licensing and vehicle inspection for it. If legally that is a bicycle in some/all of the states then that opens up a lot of cool opportunities for you guys... like legal lane splitting in non-cali states! You could commute to work through heavy city traffic at speed! I'm really confused about what to think in terms of protection. It's common place to see road riders in lycra travelling at high speed on roads like that. They usually just have a pair of gloves and a helmet for protection. Does it make sense to wear more protection on this kind of bike? After all, you don't need so much freedom of movement because the bike isn't purely human powered like a traditional road bicycle. I'm pretty sure road cyclists would wear more protection if it wasn't so prohibitive... chafing! When I visit the Alps to go mountain biking I wear a full face, knee/shin pads and gloves. Occasionally I end up on a downhill road at the end of a trail and I'll easily get over 50mph. Ordinarily I'd never travel that quick on a motorcycle without full gear head to toe. Last futzed with by akima; October 19th, 2013 at 11:01 AM.

October 19th, 2013, 07:55 PM	#13
azian4lifz ninjette.org member Name: pat Location: NoVa Virginia Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): none at the moment. previous owner of a 2005 Ninja 250 Posts: 82	yo that's a sweet bicycle. it looks like it wud be sweet for the bicycle path just cruising LOL __________________________________________________

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October 19th, 2013, 10:01 AM	#2
Joshorilla Bass Master General Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 24	That's a fairly interesting video Akima, in the UK I believe electric bikes all need to be assisted, so that they only work to contribute a certain percentage of the power at the wheel requiring you to pedal also, if they were manufactured before a certain date they can be fully electric, plus they are limited to something like half a HP which is about the same as a person. I am sure this would be classed as a moped. It's neet to see more electric vehicles, I am in the process of chatting to www.evc.gg about getting my Mercedes A-Class converted to electric. Less than a penny a mile to run, yes please!

October 19th, 2013, 10:20 AM	#3
allanoue ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Al Location: York, Pa Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300..............2008 Ninja 500-sold...2009 Ninja 250-Crashed Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '14	If it can go over 20 it does need to be registered as a moped. Mine has a 48 volt and can do 30. I just kept it under 20 around cops. If you are pedaling hard cops will think you're just a bicycle.

October 19th, 2013, 10:21 AM	#4
dfox ninjette.org sage Name: Fox Location: Boston Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 881	it depends on the state, but here in MA, you cannot ride a motorized bicycle over 25 mph legally.

October 19th, 2013, 10:29 AM	#5
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October 19th, 2013, 11:00 AM	#8
akima Nooblet Name: Akima Location: England Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninja 250R FI Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '13	@allanoue: I like the photo!

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