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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:32 AM   #1
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I am so not worthy to have a bike

This morning was going well, enroute to work on my bike, and cruzing along. Another motorcyclist rides by waves, and I waved back with my throttle hand. As I put my hand back on the throttle, my bike has no power! I am in the middle lane of a freak'n freeway and drifting along. I downshifted to 1st, would not start, no turnover and such. Needless to say, I had to come to a complete stop in the middle lane in morning traffic. A car behind me assisted me to get my bike and me to safety. I had a motorcycle friend come and pick me up. He walked up to my bike and told him that bike has power, signals work, lights in cockpit work, just no headlights and will not turnover or even make a sound of starting. Well, to make this story shorter, my motorcycle friend figured it out, it was the damn kill switch. I bumped it when I took my hand off the throttle. A couple of positive things came out of this...I faced one of my fears as to if something happened on the freeway while on my bike, what would I do...I'm still alive....my bike is not hurt (the owners ego is crushed). I don't use my kill switch, dealership told me not too becuz they are known to wear out quicker than anything and to just use the key swtich to turn on/off the bike. I soooooooooooo feel like a moron!! LMAO:ba nghead:
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:36 AM   #2
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LOL I've done the kill switch too, my time at least wasn't a freeway but I know how your ego feels
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:41 AM   #3
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Well...at least I know that I am not the only one..::::shaking head::::...gonna give Zen a bath tomorrow morning to make it up to her for sitting on the side of the freeway like a floozy for an hour due to her owner was a dingaling...lol
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:41 AM   #4
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atleast you didn't get rear ended or anything. all is well and you learned something new.

i use my kill switch all the time, i think the dealer is just bs with you. did you take a msf class? they teach you to always use the kill switch when you turn off the bike. FINE-C. fuel, ignition, neutral, engine cutoff, and clutch/choke.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:43 AM   #5
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atleast you didn't get rear ended or anything. all is well and you learned something new.

i use my kill switch all the time, i think the dealer is just bs with you.
Trust me...when I came to a stop....my butt cheeks were puckering very tight....lol
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:45 AM   #6
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I use my killswitch all the time as well. No problems here. I always wave with my left hand. Gotta maintain throttle on the freeway. Only time I wave with the right is at a stop and my left has the clutch pulled.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:45 AM   #7
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Good story. Glad you're OK. Discount what you heard from the dealer. The kill switch is no more reliable/unreliable than the key mechanism.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:48 AM   #8
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ive done this too. i was driving about 75 mph and i took my right hand off to tighten my backpack. well, i accidentally bumped the killswitch and killed my bike at 75 mph. i was able to get it going again before i needed to slow down, thank god.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:50 AM   #9
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I use the kill switch about half the time but would probably be just as confused as you for a minute. At least now it's on the top of your list of things to check if it happens again!
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:52 AM   #10
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That happened to me too, traffic on route 7. good thing I was able to go on the side, I was like dang I think I over heated, but in a couple of minutes figured that it was the kill switch... I got back into traffic and was laughing all the way.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:55 AM   #11
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I've done that too before. Took me 10 minutes to get out of the dealership because I didn't realize why the bike wasn't starting.

"Sir I do believe your mechanics have broken my bike, it won't start"
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*ego murdered*

I never use the kill switch haha
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:57 AM   #12
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I always use my kill switch 100% of the time. That's what MSF class taught me.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 11:00 AM   #13
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+1 killswitch every time i stop the bike. even when i stop it with the key or kickstand first.

as a side note... i never bother waving on the freeway. also unless you're crazy like Alex and have fancy cruise control, it's probably a better idea to wave with your left hand
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Old August 11th, 2011, 11:02 AM   #15
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Did it too on my 1000. Was sitting at the lights and bumped it. Had to push the bike to the side. Just when I got the bike on the side of the road I realized I hit the switch.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 11:03 AM   #16
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I've had to point out to someone that their bike wasn't starting because their kickstand was still down
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Old August 11th, 2011, 11:07 AM   #17
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I've had to point out to someone that their bike wasn't starting because their kickstand was still down
When I shift into first and it dies, I realize quickly my kickstand is still down.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #18
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Kill switches are cheap, key ignition switches are not...that being said, i kill mine with the kickstand most of the time.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 11:49 AM   #19
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You guys rock!! Thank you!!I really don't feel so bad now. Whew!! I will start using the kill switch for now on so that it will always be on my mind and routine checks. Lesson well learned and cruzing along. Whatcha expect, I only have 1180 miles of experience under my belt and still loving it!!
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Old August 11th, 2011, 12:24 PM   #20
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Glad all that happened to you was a bit of embarrassment. I've done this once as well, after my incident I wave with my left hand now, haha.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 01:09 PM   #21
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That happeded to me too, but i was at a stop light...and i figured it out and started her back up before the light turned green

edit: Im glad you and ninjette are unharmed.....well...except for your ego...haha
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Old August 11th, 2011, 01:10 PM   #22
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i use my kill switch all the time, i think the dealer is just bs with you. did you take a msf class? they teach you to always use the kill switch when you turn off the bike. FINE-C. fuel, ignition, neutral, engine cutoff, and clutch/choke.
Actually, my MSF taught me to use the key most of the time.



I, too, have freaked out when my bike would start until I realize I've bumped the swtich. Funny thing? I've done that in my car too, accidently turning the key off and wondering why my car just died.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #23
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When I shift into first and it dies, I realize quickly my kickstand is still down.
This happened to me on a broad bumpy road with pavements in Paris, 8AM with all the traffic jam. First at the traffic light, I engage the first gear and the engine dies. OK must be the kickstand, but no it isn't. It was the killswitch, it must have nearly switched with the vibrations and the stroke when I engage first has ended it. Took me more than 30 seconds to find that it was the kill switch, with all the cars behinf horning like deaf.
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I think most every motorcyclist has had a kill switch episode at least once. THAT'S YOUR ONCE!




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What happens if it happens more than once?
Ridicule would be in order on the second offense, of course
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Yep, I think I'm gonna fit in here just fine.

No, I haven't had any killswitch moments, but I did buy UNI pod filters for my bike, freshly oiled them up with the finest aerosol spay, and then immediately welded an extra support on the frame above them. Took my mask off to discover, of course, that the new pods were engulfed in flames.
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Yep, I think I'm gonna fit in here just fine.

No, I haven't had any killswitch moments, but I did buy UNI pod filters for my bike, freshly oiled them up with the finest aerosol spay, and then immediately welded an extra support on the frame above them. Took my mask off to discover, of course, that the new pods were engulfed in flames.


You may be one of the more gifted of us (speaking for myself of course)
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Old August 11th, 2011, 05:16 PM   #28
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On the third offense I recommend a penalty of automatic repo of the person's bike.

And delivery to my house, where I'll.. uh... keep it safe.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 08:28 PM   #29
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Can't say I've ever had a killswitch incident like that. There have been times I've gone to start my bike in my driveway/parking lot and sit there mystified for a few seconds till it clicks in I don't have my switch engaged.

That being said, if you drive a bike, be prepared to have your ego killed. Goes with having a big ego as you drivedown the streets looking good and making everyone envious they don't have a bike.
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The MSF class also taught me to use the kill switch to turn the engine off. But, I noticed the other day while leafing through the owner's manual that there is a note... "Although the engine stop switch stops the engine, it does not turn off all the electrical circuits. Ordinarily, the ignition switch should be used to stop the engine."

It was the "ordinarily, the ignition switch..." statement that I thought to be odd. My guess is that Kawasaki was trying to get the point across that the battery is still being used when the key is in the "ON" position, so don't rely on the "engine stop switch" to turn the bike off.

Later in the manual, in the "Stopping the Engine" section, it gives these steps:
- Close the throttle completely.
- Shift the transmission into neutral.
- Turn the ignition key to "OFF".
- Support the motorcycle on a firm, level surface with the side stand.
- Lock the steering.


Notice no mention of using the "engine stop switch". Hmm... maybe we need a poll on this?
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I've had to point out to someone that their bike wasn't starting because their kickstand was still down
That would be me. Yes I admit it.
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The MSF class also taught me to use the kill switch to turn the engine off. But, I noticed the other day while leafing through the owner's manual that there is a note... "Although the engine stop switch stops the engine, it does not turn off all the electrical circuits. Ordinarily, the ignition switch should be used to stop the engine."

It was the "ordinarily, the ignition switch..." statement that I thought to be odd. My guess is that Kawasaki was trying to get the point across that the battery is still being used when the key is in the "ON" position, so don't rely on the "engine stop switch" to turn the bike off.

Later in the manual, in the "Stopping the Engine" section, it gives these steps:
- Close the throttle completely.
- Shift the transmission into neutral.
- Turn the ignition key to "OFF".
- Support the motorcycle on a firm, level surface with the side stand.
- Lock the steering.


Notice no mention of using the "engine stop switch". Hmm... maybe we need a poll on this?
Yep. I always used kill switch as per MSF on my first 2 bikes, then read the owners manual and decided to only use the key on the 250. Who the hell knows the logic behind that one or if one is better than the other. I would be inclined to agree that they are just trying to prevent dead batteries for when people use the kill switch and forget to turn off the key.
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I think I told this story here before but when I first brought my Ninja home I stopped off at Subway to get something to eat. When I came out to get back on and head home, it wouldn't start.

I was freaking out because I thought it was broken already and I just got it. After about 5 minutes, I took my phone to call the dealer when I saw that the kill switch was set to 'kill'... I facepalmed and took off.

As for using kill switch, my belief is that even if using it daily SOMEHOW causes it to not work when I need it to, I still have my key/kickstand to use and kill the engine. I'm not the least bit worried...
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I think I told this story here before but when I first brought my Ninja home I stopped off at Subway to get something to eat. When I came out to get back on and head home, it wouldn't start.

I was freaking out because I thought it was broken already and I just got it. After about 5 minutes, I took my phone to call the dealer when I saw that the kill switch was set to 'kill'... I facepalmed and took off.

As for using kill switch, my belief is that even if using it daily SOMEHOW causes it to not work when I need it to, I still have my key/kickstand to use and kill the engine. I'm not the least bit worried...
Er....I think the issue with a bad killswitch is that it doesn't start when you need the bike to, not that it doesn't stop when you want it to!
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Er....I think the issue with a bad killswitch is that it doesn't start when you need the bike to, not that it doesn't stop when you want it to!
Lol that never even crossed my mind I guess. It's a simple on/off switch so I'm still not worried about it. Seems like it would be easier to fix/replace than just about anything else I've worked on on the bike haha.
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Sooo... perhaps this has been covered before, but i missed it - when you're cruising along at 60mph, and you flip the killswitch like that, do you just flip it back on, restart the engine and proceed as you were? Or is there downshifting involved? Do you need to stop and start over? I'm noob-confused.
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Just flip it back on while you're still in gear and the motor will immediately restart.
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Sooo... perhaps this has been covered before, but i missed it - when you're cruising along at 60mph, and you flip the killswitch like that, do you just flip it back on, restart the engine and proceed as you were? Or is there downshifting involved? Do you need to stop and start over? I'm noob-confused.
You shouldn't wave with your right hand. If you do, you lose control of both your throttle and your brake. And in the OP's case, you stall the engine if you hit the kill switch by mistake.

But if you did stall the bike at 60 by hitting the kill switch like that, you can restart it without stopping. Don't downshift unless you are planning on stopping. Just pull the clutch, flip the switch back, push the starter button, increase throttle to proper RPMs, and slowly release the clutch. You can probably do it without hitting the starter button, but I have never done it that way.

I have never hit the kill switch in motion like that, but I have stalled in motion by not being in the right gear.
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I've always said I'm so glad the kill switch is on the right, not the left. Using your left hand to wave means the worst that could happen is you'll turn your brights on or off. I do that all the time. lol!
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