Need help!!

Wllyard · September 22nd, 2012, 03:39 PM

I just finished doing my first DIY oil change. Put the new oil and filter in. Put 2quarts in right off the bat and tried to start the bike and wouldn't start up. Drained a little bit of the oil and it still wont start up. All was working good yesterday and just want to get back on the road. Please help

xSean13 · September 22nd, 2012, 03:41 PM

Did you turn the key on/flip the starter switch?
Gas in the tank?

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 03:41 PM

Why did you put 2 qts in? Nowhere says to put 2 qts in.

xSean13 · September 22nd, 2012, 03:44 PM

Just changed mine thursday...it took 2 quarts to get it up to the line.

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSean13

Just changed mine thursday...it took 2 quarts to get it up to the line.

How are you measuring it?

Wllyard · September 22nd, 2012, 03:56 PM

Gas is in the tank, kill switch flipped and everything else is okay. Just won't turn over the starter won't fire up the engine

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 03:58 PM

Sounds like its time for a push start!

xSean13 · September 22nd, 2012, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

How are you measuring it?

Completely vertical.

Wllyard · September 22nd, 2012, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Why did you put 2 qts in? Nowhere says to put 2 qts in.

If oil filter replaced 2quarts
If not replaced 1.6 quarts

Wllyard · September 22nd, 2012, 04:01 PM

What's a push start or is it exactly what it says

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 04:02 PM

Pretty strange, at the most it should be 1.9 quarts

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wllyard

What's a push start or is it exactly what it says

Link to original page on YouTube.

xSean13 · September 22nd, 2012, 04:03 PM

Did you try it with full choke?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Pretty strange, at the most it should be 1.9 quarts

I'm sure I didn't get all 2.0 quarts in there, some remained in the bottles, lost some from pouring it down this stupidly long funnel as well.

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 04:04 PM

Canada, EFI

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSean13

Did you try it with full choke?

I'm sure I didn't get all 2.0 quarts in there, some remained in the bottles, lost some from pouring it down this stupidly long funnel as well.

Well thats not 2 quarts then

I think the bikes actual oil capacity to hit the correct spot on the line is 1.7, it may sound like splitting hairs but 2 quarts is just going to be too much oil which can be bad.

IIRC, its 1.4 quarts of oil without changing the filter or 1.7 quarts with changing the filter

Wllyard · September 22nd, 2012, 04:27 PM

Tried it with the push start and also full choke... no luck.
I drained all the oil and put it back in and now looks to be more like the appropriate level. Still not starting and sounds like battery is dieing from to many tries. Any other ideas. It sounds like it wants to get going but just cant.

Jiggles · September 22nd, 2012, 04:29 PM

Push start it

GREY NINJA · September 22nd, 2012, 04:35 PM

Crank it with open throttle no choke after you charge/jump your battery

Wllyard · September 22nd, 2012, 04:53 PM

Plan on trying all this again in the morning. But what is the next step if these don't work?

xSean13 · September 22nd, 2012, 04:54 PM

Buy a ninja 300

Wllyard · September 23rd, 2012, 06:55 AM

So i tried it again this morning after having it on the battery tender for 2hrs and it starts right up but at about 6000rpm. also i look at the oil gauge and it says that it is empty. so i figure the bike has to be warmed up since there was frost on the bike and then the oil level will return to normal. After riding it up and down the street in 2nd gear i turn it off. The oil gauge is still showing empty and the bike will not start up again. NEED HELP BAD!!

Wllyard · September 23rd, 2012, 07:22 AM

also bike will not idle below 3000rpm

psych0hans · September 23rd, 2012, 07:29 AM

Try jump starting it?

Wllyard · September 23rd, 2012, 07:38 AM

could the problem be fixed by a good fuel system cleaner? The history of the bike is that it sat for a long time and i bought it in august after it had been cleaned and gotten running again. Put about 600miles on it since i bought it and thats y im doing the oil change

September 22nd, 2012, 03:39 PM	#1
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	Need help!! I just finished doing my first DIY oil change. Put the new oil and filter in. Put 2quarts in right off the bat and tried to start the bike and wouldn't start up. Drained a little bit of the oil and it still wont start up. All was working good yesterday and just want to get back on the road. Please help

September 22nd, 2012, 03:41 PM	#3
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Why did you put 2 qts in? Nowhere says to put 2 qts in. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 22nd, 2012, 03:58 PM	#7
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Sounds like its time for a push start! __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 22nd, 2012, 04:02 PM	#11
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Pretty strange, at the most it should be 1.9 quarts __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 22nd, 2012, 04:04 PM	#14
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Canada, EFI __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 22nd, 2012, 03:41 PM	#2
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Did you turn the key on/flip the starter switch? Gas in the tank?

September 22nd, 2012, 03:44 PM	#4
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Just changed mine thursday...it took 2 quarts to get it up to the line.

September 22nd, 2012, 03:56 PM	#6
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	Gas is in the tank, kill switch flipped and everything else is okay. Just won't turn over the starter won't fire up the engine

September 22nd, 2012, 04:01 PM	#10
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	What's a push start or is it exactly what it says

September 22nd, 2012, 04:27 PM	#16
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	Tried it with the push start and also full choke... no luck. I drained all the oil and put it back in and now looks to be more like the appropriate level. Still not starting and sounds like battery is dieing from to many tries. Any other ideas. It sounds like it wants to get going but just cant.

September 22nd, 2012, 04:29 PM	#17
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Push start it __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

September 22nd, 2012, 04:35 PM	#18
GREY NINJA ninjette.org member Name: ninja Location: LAND OF OZ Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2002 ninja 250 Posts: 100	Crank it with open throttle no choke after you charge/jump your battery

September 22nd, 2012, 04:53 PM	#19
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	Plan on trying all this again in the morning. But what is the next step if these don't work?

September 22nd, 2012, 04:54 PM	#20
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Buy a ninja 300

September 23rd, 2012, 06:55 AM	#21
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	So i tried it again this morning after having it on the battery tender for 2hrs and it starts right up but at about 6000rpm. also i look at the oil gauge and it says that it is empty. so i figure the bike has to be warmed up since there was frost on the bike and then the oil level will return to normal. After riding it up and down the street in 2nd gear i turn it off. The oil gauge is still showing empty and the bike will not start up again. NEED HELP BAD!!

September 23rd, 2012, 07:22 AM	#22
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	also bike will not idle below 3000rpm

September 23rd, 2012, 07:29 AM	#23
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	Try jump starting it? __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this.

September 23rd, 2012, 07:38 AM	#24
Wllyard ninjette.org newbie Name: Justin Location: Toronto Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 Kawasaki 250r Posts: 9	could the problem be fixed by a good fuel system cleaner? The history of the bike is that it sat for a long time and i bought it in august after it had been cleaned and gotten running again. Put about 600miles on it since i bought it and thats y im doing the oil change