March 4th, 2009, 08:21 PM | #1 |
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friction zone and idle
whats the idle rpm for this bike and can i adjust the friction zone cause it seems like it takes awhile to engage
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March 4th, 2009, 08:25 PM | #2 |
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Suggested idle is 1200-1500 RPM but most set it at 1500 since it's easy to see on the new tachometers. Yes the "friction zone" on the clutch is "adjustable" but if you are set up per the manual it may just be a case of getting used to this bike.
How many miles do you have on the bike and has it had it's first oil change yet.
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March 4th, 2009, 08:29 PM | #3 |
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3k mile and no to oil change
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March 4th, 2009, 08:31 PM | #4 |
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what happened to the 600mile service? it was supposed to be changed then.
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March 4th, 2009, 08:32 PM | #5 |
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Time to learn how to do an oil change. Plenty of DIY information here to help you with that, what oil, and what filter to use.
Start with that and then let's see what the friction zone is doing.
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March 4th, 2009, 08:45 PM | #6 |
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i'm not totality sure what previous owner change oil but im guess he did the break in of the motor and im going to change oil to half sintec soon
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March 4th, 2009, 08:47 PM | #7 |
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if you don't have any maintenance records to show it was done, assume it wasn't done. I would change the oil/filter ASAP.
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March 4th, 2009, 08:56 PM | #8 |
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yes i got new oil and filter ,should i go full sintec after mine next oil change and stay full sintec for the rest of the bikes life
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March 4th, 2009, 09:13 PM | #9 |
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I went full synthetic at 1000 miles after a "hard" break in and have not had any problems. what specific oil are you planning to use?
I also did oil changes at 50, 300, 600, 1000 and 2000 miles w/ the first 3 changes using conventional oil. |
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March 4th, 2009, 10:00 PM | #10 |
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is it adjustable? not doubting you... just didn't know that. i know you can mess around with the adjustment of the gap between the lever and the holder, but is the friction zone itself adjustable?
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March 4th, 2009, 10:15 PM | #11 |
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March 4th, 2009, 10:19 PM | #12 |
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seems like the op was asking if you could adjust at what point the clutch will grab as you release the lever. sooner or later.
i didn't think you could adjust that. but if i am understanding og correctly, it is adjustable. i think i am just getting confused. |
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March 4th, 2009, 10:24 PM | #13 |
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it is "sort" of adjustable. though the manual gives you specs on how much end gap you should have at the lever, that amount can be increased a little bit. As that measurement increases, the point at which the clutch will grab will move in closer to the bar. There is only so much you can adjust it as you need to have the clutch fully released when the lever touches the bar. anything in between is fair game, though it's better to set it out farther than you think to compensate for cable stretch and a hot clutch.
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March 6th, 2009, 04:40 AM | #14 |
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ok did mine oil change and good thing i did,cause there was not even enough oil in it,put in 3 quarts and still need another, had to go to work will add another tomorrow, then will check friction zone and see if that made it better
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DO NOT RUN THE BIKE WITH THAT MUCH OIL IN IT Do you have an owners manual/service manual? If nothing else check the DIY for oil changes and the thread for specifications. If you were low on oil that was most likely the cause of your friction zone problems since the clutch discs run in an oil bath.
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March 6th, 2009, 08:45 AM | #16 | |
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I'm going to recheck the level with bike stand up straight once I get a chance to. - Pete |
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March 6th, 2009, 10:12 AM | #17 |
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yeah py2e, you are supposed to check the oil level with the bike balancing straight up and down. also, don't check it while it is on a stand. any other way and you won't get an accurate reading.
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March 6th, 2009, 04:25 PM | #18 |
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did you even bother to read the DIY on changing your oil... or the owner's manual, for that matter?? arm yourself with knowledge before you destroy your bike.
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March 6th, 2009, 05:19 PM | #19 |
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py2e, you probably gotta take some oil out. if you added another quart, then you also shouldn't run your bike until you get an accurate reading of your oil level.
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March 7th, 2009, 02:21 AM | #20 |
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ok guys i did what the DYI said to do,after i changed the filter and put everything back on i added the oil till it went to the top line on site glass,started the bike and oil level dropped that was after i used 3 qts of oil, have not added any more cause i have not had time to check level, will check in the morning before i start it let it run for awhile and check level again
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March 7th, 2009, 02:33 AM | #21 |
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wait.... 3 quarts? what position is the bike when you are checking the level? if you change out the filter, then you are only supposed to put 1.7 quarts.
are you checking the bike on the kickstand? you should be checking the bike with both tires on the ground and the bike balanced straight up and down... not leaning one way or the other. don't take the bike riding if you put in 3 quarts. |
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March 7th, 2009, 02:36 AM | #22 |
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ok i wont ill recheck level and if too full will drain it till its at top line
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March 7th, 2009, 02:39 AM | #23 |
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what position was the bike when you checked the level of the oil?
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March 7th, 2009, 02:40 AM | #24 |
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it was on kick stand
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March 7th, 2009, 02:48 AM | #25 |
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on page 84 of the owner's manual it says to hold the bike level.
it also says that you can siphon out the excess oil using a syringe or something like that.... don't worry man. the only reason why i know that is because i did something similar. i read the diy. i had my bike up on rear stands. i put in about 1.7 quarts of oil in my bike and i couldn't figure out why it was still empty in the window. then i decided to read the manual again. duh... i took the bike off of the stand, held it level and sure enough, the oil filled the window a bit more than halfway. at least now you know. and knowing is half the battle! yo joe! |
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March 7th, 2009, 05:11 PM | #26 |
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i over-serviced my engine also during my last (and first for me) oil change. not by much, half a quart i think. half a quart is STILL half a quart over-serviced. i did the fill and run thing till i was at the proper level of the sight glass, but when kkim and i did my needle shim last weekend at his place, he noticed the level filled the entire site guage. of course i did the change with the bike on the center stand. that, along with not checking the level with the bike off the stand, thinking my garage was level when it obviously isnt and most importantly, not measuring how much oil i actually put in, relying on the site guage instead, are the factors that led to my over-serviced engine.
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March 8th, 2009, 03:34 PM | #27 |
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yup i messed up , i don't have service manual ,previous owner didn' find it,so when i went to cycle gear to get oil i ask how much oil i needed they said 3 qts,so that plus not level got me, but alls well now, once again thanks all for the help
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March 16th, 2009, 08:06 PM | #29 |
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ok i tested the bike after oil change and its way better and i did a little adjusting of the lever to make it more comfort for my small hand, all i need to do is lower 1 inch and im good to go ,i tried to ride the bike as is and it was just a little tall as im 5' 4" with a 26 inseam
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