ninja650 or 1098s

fishdip · July 8th, 2014, 08:27 AM

So I have 2 bikes at the dealers a 2014 green 650r or a 2011 1098s with 3k miles. What one to get. Insurance difference for the year 700.00 dollars with a 125.00 deductible.

Klondike1020 · July 8th, 2014, 08:30 AM

@fishdip

- NEED MORE INFO -

Thats like me asking you - corvette or miata?

the 650 would be more comfortable and practical. but the 1098 is well --- beast

fishdip · July 8th, 2014, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klondike1020

@fishdip

- NEED MORE INFO -

Thats like me asking you - corvette or miata?

the 650 would be more comfortable and practical. but the 1098 is well --- beast

Like what info. I like love them equal

Klondike1020 · July 8th, 2014, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishdip

Like what info. I like love them equal

IF you love them equally, only one choice. - both

this aint marriage baby I want to have it all- "Sister Bikes" a new series on octane channel

fishdip · July 8th, 2014, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klondike1020

IF you love them equally, only one choice. - both

this aint marriage baby I want to have it all- "Sister Bikes" a new series on octane channel

Lol I was thinking the 650 first since I can get it new. But it is so hard to find a 1098 with low miles for a ok price.

DCMoney · July 8th, 2014, 08:58 AM

Ducati did not make a 1098S in 2011.

fishdip · July 8th, 2014, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCMoney

Ducati did not make a 1098S in 2011.

You are right its a 2008.

adouglas · July 8th, 2014, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klondike1020

Thats like me asking you - corvette or miata?

More like....

vs.

I rode a Ninja 650 at a demo day in 2012. There's nothing at all wrong with that bike. It's smooth, rides nice, looks good... but it's a transportation appliance with no character. I couldn't get the feeling that I was riding a giant Vespa out of my head. It sounds like a sewing machine.

If you're looking for a practical commuter bike the 650 should be great.

If you're looking for something that will make you daydream about riding and make your pants feel funny, get the Ducati.

Klondike1020 · July 8th, 2014, 09:41 AM

Well it is settled - finding a good Ducati for a good price. Not easy
650r everywhere

Get the Ducati is the only responsible choice

Sirref · July 8th, 2014, 09:49 AM

Ducati if you keep the 250
Ducati if you sell the 250 and have another mode of transportation that you use daily
650 if you use the bike as your main a-b transportation and sell the 250

nickjpass · July 8th, 2014, 10:48 AM

@adouglas

I heard a 650r with what I think was a 2bros exhaust, and it sounded great!!! BUT the three zx6rs, r6, ducati monster and 1098 behind sounded much better

kdogg2077 · July 8th, 2014, 07:21 PM

When I was new here I figured everyone on this forum would like Ninja 650's (and 250's of course), it's so funny that the 650 is almost universally hated here lol. Kawa dropped the ball on that one.

Get the Ducati.

psych0hans · July 8th, 2014, 07:41 PM

Think about it this way, can you handle the Ducati power, Italian idiosyncrasies and massive maintainance bills? My cousin actually sold his 1098 because it was too much for him to handle...

P.s. I would DEFINITELY buy the Ducati, because "I'm smart enough to know better, but stupid enough to not give a f@#k..."

JohnnyBravo · July 8th, 2014, 07:48 PM

Dew it get the dew kaki

ninjamunky85 · July 8th, 2014, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

When I was new here I figured everyone on this forum would like Ninja 650's (and 250's of course), it's so funny that the 650 is almost universally hated here lol. Kawa dropped the ball on that one.

Get the Ducati.

I get what you're saying, because it should be a bigger/better ninjette but I've never really been into the ninja 650. I like the exhaust and frame/rear suspension. But I dislike the banana seat and dirt bike handlebars.

I sat on a new one before I bought my 300 and the tank was so thin at the seat that it was ridiculous, made it feel like more of a beginner bike than the 300.

Hero Danny · July 8th, 2014, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

I get what you're saying, because it should be a bigger/better ninjette but I've never really been into the ninja 650. I like the exhaust and frame/rear suspension. But I dislike the banana seat and dirt bike handlebars.

I sat on a new one before I bought my 300 and the tank was so thin at the seat it was ridiculous, made it feel like more of a beginner bike than the 300.

The 2014 model doesn't look bad at all. (which is the one he's referring too).

Desmoluci · July 8th, 2014, 07:55 PM

If you have to ask, get the Kawasaki.

Finesse · July 8th, 2014, 07:58 PM

if you have money, Ducati. if you're on a budget, Kawasaki.

Klondike1020 · July 8th, 2014, 11:25 PM

I have ridden the 650

I love it for ridding two up and grocery getting

Haha but the Ducati is bomb

Aggrotech · July 8th, 2014, 11:40 PM

just buy the 13' 636. sexier than both of those other 2 bikes. pfffffff

alex.s · July 8th, 2014, 11:47 PM

neither

Somchai · July 9th, 2014, 01:00 AM

and @Klondike1020 if we talk about this

then it never would be a question...

corksil · July 9th, 2014, 01:07 AM

if you love them both, let them both go.

otherwise the obvious question which begets itself is... how fast do you want to go?

modifications will only take you so far... and you will need deep pockets to make a small bike go fast.

in other news, OP flipped a coin and it landed on the edge showing neither heads or tails and he decided to buy neither bike and post pictures of neither and then OP probably got back into his bed and had another sweet dream about a motorcycle that he did not own but did very much enjoy riding in his sleep.

Quote:

"What bike should I buy?"

I just quoted quotes. A quota of quotes. quotations within quotations.

Perhaps you should call your local female service representative and ask her what she thought the quotations meant, and then get her opinion on what the quotes meant.

kdogg2077 · July 9th, 2014, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

The 2014 model doesn't look bad at all. (which is the one he's referring too).

They look alright that's true. But they are so upright they remind me more of a sport tourer. The 250 has a sleek low front end, but the 650 is really high. Not very "sporty".

Now if they took the 650, put an SV650 engine in it, lowered the bars and made it weight 400lbs or so then I'd be very interested.

subxero · July 9th, 2014, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

They look alright that's true. But they are so upright they remind me more of a sport tourer. The 250 has a sleek low front end, but the 650 is really high. Not very "sporty".

Now if they took the 650, put an SV650 engine in it, lowered the bars and made it weight 400lbs or so then I'd be very interested.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

fishdip · July 9th, 2014, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corksil

if you love them both, let them both go.

otherwise the obvious question which begets itself is... how fast do you want to go?

modifications will only take you so far... and you will need deep pockets to make a small bike go fast.

in other news, OP flipped a coin and it landed on the edge showing neither heads or tails and he decided to buy neither bike and post pictures of neither and then OP probably got back into his bed and had another sweet dream about a motorcycle that he did not own but did very much enjoy riding in his sleep.

I just quoted quotes. A quota of quotes. quotations within quotations.

Perhaps you should call your local female service representative and ask her what she thought the quotations meant, and then get her opinion on what the quotes meant.

Xtina · July 9th, 2014, 07:36 AM

Neither

kdogg2077 · July 9th, 2014, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subxero

Where do you come up with this stuff?

Is it really that hard to understand?

Most people describe the Ninja 650 engine as boring whereas the SV650 engine is generally praised (see: Internet). They could design a similar engine.

Do I need to explain that the handlebars are high and that the bike (at 460lbs) is kinda fat for a sporty bike?

adouglas · July 9th, 2014, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

Now if they took the 650, put an SV650 engine in it, lowered the bars and made it weight 400lbs or so then I'd be very interested.

... you just described this bike:

Clip-ons, dry weight right around 400 (depends on which source you look at, but it's no porker) and an SV-650 engine because, well, it's an SV-650.

subxero · July 9th, 2014, 08:20 AM

^this

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

Is it really that hard to understand?

Most people describe the Ninja 650 engine as boring whereas the SV650 engine is generally praised (see: Internet). They could design a similar engine.

Do I need to explain that the handlebars are high and that the bike (at 460lbs) is kinda fat for a sporty bike?

There are a lot of bikes out there, and manufactures put a lot of time and money into R&D to come up with their fleet with each bike aimed at a particular target audience. If you don't like a particular bike, someone else makes one that is just that little bit different that might fit what you are looking for just a little bit better.

Also keep in mind, a mid priced greater than 600cc faired bike at 400lbs curb weight might be a little tough to come by. It's been discussed in numerous threads, weight reduction costs money, and often better quality, stronger parts also add weight so there is always give and take and you gotta pay to play.

kdogg2077 · July 9th, 2014, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

... you just described this bike:

Clip-ons, dry weight right around 400 (depends on which source you look at, but it's no porker) and an SV-650 engine because, well, it's an SV-650.

I know these are out there but they were discontinued about 6 years ago from what I've read. The OP was looking at a new Ninja 650.

nickjpass · July 9th, 2014, 08:34 AM

Dont forget about the new fz-07...

subxero · July 9th, 2014, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdogg2077

I know these are out there but they were discontinued about 6 years ago from what I've read. The OP was looking at a new Ninja 650.

I think this was aimed at your desire to put an sv engine in a ninja650 and lower the bars ect... nothing to do with the OP

fishdip · July 10th, 2014, 07:49 AM

I am so lost lol.

headshrink · July 10th, 2014, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishdip

Like what info. I like love them equal

As any honest and truly self-aware parent will tell you, this isn't REALLY true, although we even tell ourselves that.

fishdip · July 10th, 2014, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

As any honest and truly self-aware parent will tell you, this isn't REALLY true, although we even tell ourselves that.

sometimes you gotta squeeze sometimes you got to say please. Some times you got to say im going to ride you gently.

fishdip · July 10th, 2014, 06:51 PM

Well I got the 650. was not able to pass it up for 6k out the door.

Jiggles · July 10th, 2014, 07:55 PM

Ninja 1000 obviously

Soujyu · July 10th, 2014, 07:55 PM

I'd say you made a good choice. Never get a Ducati (or any Italian motorcycle) without a good dealer/mechanic backing you up.

headshrink · July 10th, 2014, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soujyu

I'd say you made a good choice. Never get a Ducati (or any Italian motorcycle) without a good dealer/mechanic backing you up.

And lots of disposable income.

July 8th, 2014, 08:27 AM	#1
fishdip ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Fish Location: co Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250/300 Posts: A lot.	ninja650 or 1098s So I have 2 bikes at the dealers a 2014 green 650r or a 2011 1098s with 3k miles. What one to get. Insurance difference for the year 700.00 dollars with a 125.00 deductible. __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered never go faster than your brakes can be applied...

July 8th, 2014, 08:30 AM	#2
Klondike1020 Intrepid Adventurer Name: Josh Location: Rochester/Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 GSXR 750 , 71 cb350streettracker, 07 Polaris Predator 500 Posts: A lot.	@fishdip - NEED MORE INFO - Thats like me asking you - corvette or miata? the 650 would be more comfortable and practical. but the 1098 is well --- beast __________________________________________________ LIFE IS NOT FOR REGRETS OR EXCUSES. Breath deep, seek peace. Embrace the Madness. Life is good, let it be

July 8th, 2014, 08:58 AM	#6
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	Ducati did not make a 1098S in 2011. __________________________________________________ MCRA.com

July 8th, 2014, 09:41 AM	#9
Klondike1020 Intrepid Adventurer Name: Josh Location: Rochester/Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 GSXR 750 , 71 cb350streettracker, 07 Polaris Predator 500 Posts: A lot.	Well it is settled - finding a good Ducati for a good price. Not easy 650r everywhere Get the Ducati is the only responsible choice __________________________________________________ LIFE IS NOT FOR REGRETS OR EXCUSES. Breath deep, seek peace. Embrace the Madness. Life is good, let it be

July 8th, 2014, 10:48 AM	#11
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	@adouglas I heard a 650r with what I think was a 2bros exhaust, and it sounded great!!! BUT the three zx6rs, r6, ducati monster and 1098 behind sounded much better __________________________________________________

July 8th, 2014, 09:49 AM	#10
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	Ducati if you keep the 250 Ducati if you sell the 250 and have another mode of transportation that you use daily 650 if you use the bike as your main a-b transportation and sell the 250

July 8th, 2014, 07:21 PM	#12
kdogg2077 ninjette.org sage Name: Alex Location: Ebensburg, PA Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2015 Yamaha FZ07, Ninja 250r 2012 Limited Edition (Sold) Posts: 529	When I was new here I figured everyone on this forum would like Ninja 650's (and 250's of course), it's so funny that the 650 is almost universally hated here lol. Kawa dropped the ball on that one. Get the Ducati. __________________________________________________ "Take it easy driving. The life you might save might be mine."

July 8th, 2014, 07:41 PM	#13
psych0hans ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Hansveer Location: Bombay, India Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r - Track whore, Ninja 300 - SOLD, KTM RC390 - Orange Hulk, Ducati 899 Panigale - Red Devil. Posts: A lot.	Think about it this way, can you handle the Ducati power, Italian idiosyncrasies and massive maintainance bills? My cousin actually sold his 1098 because it was too much for him to handle... P.s. I would DEFINITELY buy the Ducati, because "I'm smart enough to know better, but stupid enough to not give a f@#k..." __________________________________________________ GETTING BACK INTO RIDING? Read this. Last futzed with by psych0hans; July 9th, 2014 at 04:52 AM.
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July 8th, 2014, 07:48 PM	#14
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	Dew it get the dew kaki
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July 8th, 2014, 07:55 PM	#17
Desmoluci Threadkiller Name: Mick Location: Monongahela, Pa. Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Yellow '04 stocker, '89 FJ1200, '87 Ducati Paso, '71 Yamaha XS1b, '99 KLR650, '81 FXE 80, '97 KTM 200EXC , etc Posts: 430	If you have to ask, get the Kawasaki.

July 8th, 2014, 07:58 PM	#18
Finesse ran when parked Name: Katie Location: DC/MD Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): Freeride 250R, KLX250SF, mopeds Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '17, Dec '14	if you have money, Ducati. if you're on a budget, Kawasaki.

July 8th, 2014, 11:25 PM	#19
Klondike1020 Intrepid Adventurer Name: Josh Location: Rochester/Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2004 GSXR 750 , 71 cb350streettracker, 07 Polaris Predator 500 Posts: A lot.	I have ridden the 650 I love it for ridding two up and grocery getting Haha but the Ducati is bomb __________________________________________________ LIFE IS NOT FOR REGRETS OR EXCUSES. Breath deep, seek peace. Embrace the Madness. Life is good, let it be

July 8th, 2014, 11:40 PM	#20
Aggrotech ninjette.org sage Name: Justin Location: Fresno CA Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 12' Ninja 250 Posts: 831	just buy the 13' 636. sexier than both of those other 2 bikes. pfffffff

July 8th, 2014, 11:47 PM	#21
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	neither __________________________________________________

July 9th, 2014, 07:36 AM	#27
Xtina ninjette.org guru Name: Christina Location: Toronto Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300, 2007 Gsxr 600, R6-sold :( Posts: 270	Neither

July 9th, 2014, 08:34 AM	#32
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Dont forget about the new fz-07... __________________________________________________

July 10th, 2014, 07:49 AM	#34
fishdip ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Fish Location: co Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250/300 Posts: A lot.	I am so lost lol. __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered never go faster than your brakes can be applied...

July 10th, 2014, 06:51 PM	#37
fishdip ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Fish Location: co Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250/300 Posts: A lot.	Well I got the 650. was not able to pass it up for 6k out the door. __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered never go faster than your brakes can be applied...

July 10th, 2014, 07:55 PM	#38
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Ninja 1000 obviously __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

July 10th, 2014, 07:55 PM	#39
Soujyu ninjette.org sage Name: W Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (sold), 2012 Tuono V4R Posts: 512	I'd say you made a good choice. Never get a Ducati (or any Italian motorcycle) without a good dealer/mechanic backing you up. __________________________________________________ 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R - "Aria" (sold) 2012 Aprilia Tuono V4R - "Perrine" Proof that Harleys and Ninjettes are friendly with each other

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