April 27th, 2016, 02:29 PM | #1 |
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98 kawasaki ninja250r won't go fast
Hello it's me again got everything almost working it starts now I can even ride it a lil bit but it only goes into neutral and second when I had the engine open I didn't see anything wrong broken or anything. I cleaned every lil bit of the carbs the top and bottom. My buddy said it sounds and feels when he rode it that it's only running on one cylinder. Idk what's wrong with it now it can start when it's stopped idels fine I can even rub it to like 10k rpms btw that's awesome haha red lines at 14k haha. But only goes I would say 10 miles an hour. New oil battery ngk or ngr spark plugs (the good ones you guys told me to get) I'm going to check the spark plugs right now but idk what else to do any help is greatly appreciated.
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April 27th, 2016, 02:34 PM | #2 |
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Check the pipe temps to see if both cylinders are firing.
Even on 1 cylinder it should do better than that. Can you post a video? Something may be amiss in the carbs. |
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April 27th, 2016, 02:40 PM | #4 |
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April 27th, 2016, 02:40 PM | #5 |
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April 27th, 2016, 02:41 PM | #6 |
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The part in bold....only shift to neutral or second.
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April 27th, 2016, 02:45 PM | #7 |
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April 27th, 2016, 02:57 PM | #8 |
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Touch them, if they burn your hand the cylinder is firing if they are cool to the touch it isn't.
You could also just hold your hand over the outlet of your exhaust pipes. If it is firing on that cylinder you will get a warm puff. Or you could get a compression tester and see how much compression you have in each cylinder |
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April 27th, 2016, 03:02 PM | #9 | |
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April 27th, 2016, 03:22 PM | #10 |
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Better to use a spray bottle with water.
You'll know if it sizzles or not. Personally, I'd be opening it back up to check the shift star and mechanism/shift drum/whatever you touched while you were in there before I worry about getting it running. One gear isn't any good and you'll only have to open it up again anyway..........
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April 27th, 2016, 03:25 PM | #11 |
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April 27th, 2016, 03:38 PM | #12 |
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April 27th, 2016, 04:00 PM | #13 | |
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April 27th, 2016, 04:04 PM | #14 |
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I think it was because I turned the air mixture I'm going to put it back see what it does
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April 27th, 2016, 04:19 PM | #15 |
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Ok now with choke off it spikes up to 5k rpms
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April 27th, 2016, 04:40 PM | #16 |
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This seems particularly weird. I don't know how it would only go into 2nd, yet not be able to shift further. Is it possible that someone swapped the gear pedal for GP shifting, and pulling it up is putting it into first gear? If it won't go up any further from there, that would be behaving as expected. Then if you pushed down to try and shift to 2nd, it wouldn't be able to go past neutral unless the bike was moving fast enough to bypass the neutral finder.
Any way you can link up the tach speed and road speed to confirm which gear it is really in while moving? www.gearingcommander.com is useful here. At 20 mph, in 1st gear you should be showing ~7200 rpm on the tach. At 20 mph, in 2nd gear you should be showing ~4900 rpm on the tach.
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Good point. Only being able to flip back and forth between what they believe to be 2nd and neutral still seems strange. Either it has something to do with the neutral-finder mechanism, preventing the bike from actually getting into 2nd, or something is fundamentally broken in the transmission.
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April 27th, 2016, 07:46 PM | #20 |
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An IR thermometer is the best way, but you can get creative as well. You are just trying to compare them.
I still think there is something assembled or adjusted incorrectly in the carbs. The shifting problem is another issue completely... |
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With the positive neutral finder, he might only be getting N and backwards-1-which-seems-like-2 (with the PNF keeping him out of backwards-2-which-seems-like-1).
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