Rotella T oil = 15$

[jonthechron]

It's on sale this week at Canadian Tire 15 bucks for 4L

[00v_Lucky]

wow what a steal. but I guess after taxes you'll still be paying more than us :P

[BlueRaven]

I just checked and the Rotella T 5w40 is $22 + taxes. The 15w40 is $15.

[Greg_E]

Is that the regular Rotella T or the synthetic T6? The only thing I can find locally is the T triple protection which is not a synthetic.

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...ucts_home.html

[NinjaDaddio]

Okay,...fellow Ninja warriors,...I think some clarification is needed here for those riders that use Shell's Rotella Oil in their bikes. Like most oils on the market, the manufacturer usually distributes several formulations within that particular series. Rotella is no different. However, I have noticed a lot of confusion concerning the specs on Rotella T6 vs Rotella T. Of course, most of us know that most motorcycles have a wet clutch configuration, where the same oil lubricates both the mechanical components inside the engine as well as the clutch plates of the attached transmission. Oils that contain "friction modifiers" can cause shifting problems in motorcycles because they literally cause slippage of the inherent friction plates inside the clutch bundle. One classic clue that any oil has friction modifiers in its formulation are the words "Energy Conserving" or "Fuel Conserving" on the front seal of the bottle or jug. If you look at the two Rotella series, the white bottled Rotella T does NOT have that in the seal. However, the Rotella T6 does. Also, what's really important is to examine the oil's classifications on the back label of the bottle. Look for the JASO rating, which is usually one of the last ratings listed. An oil that has NO friction modifiers included will be labeled "JASO MA", such as the Rotella T bottle is. If you look closely at the Rotella T6 back label, you will clearly see that it is marked "JASO MB". This indicates that there are some friction modifiers present, although not the same bundle as in most conventional energy-conserving oils. Now, I'm not trying to indicate the Rotella T6 should not be used. It's excellent oil, and the fact that it's synthetic makes it a superior oil to conventional oils. I'm merely trying to shed some light on the two Rotella types, and reiterate the importance of looking for the "JASO MA" rating on the back label of the bottle or jug.

[HorizonXP]

Originally Posted by NinjaDaddio

Okay,...fellow Ninja warriors,...I think some clarification is needed here for those riders that use Shell's Rotella Oil in their bikes. Like most oils on the market, the manufacturer usually distributes several formulations within that particular series. Rotella is no different. However, I have noticed a lot of confusion concerning the specs on Rotella T6 vs Rotella T. Of course, most of us know that most motorcycles have a wet clutch configuration, where the same oil lubricates both the mechanical components inside the engine as well as the clutch plates of the attached transmission. Oils that contain "friction modifiers" can cause shifting problems in motorcycles because they literally cause slippage of the inherent friction plates inside the clutch bundle. One classic clue that any oil has friction modifiers in its formulation are the words "Energy Conserving" or "Fuel Conserving" on the front seal of the bottle or jug. If you look at the two Rotella series, the white bottled Rotella T does NOT have that in the seal. However, the Rotella T6 does. Also, what's really important is to examine the oil's classifications on the back label of the bottle. Look for the JASO rating, which is usually one of the last ratings listed. An oil that has NO friction modifiers included will be labeled "JASO MA", such as the Rotella T bottle is. If you look closely at the Rotella T6 back label, you will clearly see that it is marked "JASO MB". This indicates that there are some friction modifiers present, although not the same bundle as in most conventional energy-conserving oils. Now, I'm not trying to indicate the Rotella T6 should not be used. It's excellent oil, and the fact that it's synthetic makes it a superior oil to conventional oils. I'm merely trying to shed some light on the two Rotella types, and reiterate the importance of looking for the "JASO MA" rating on the back label of the bottle or jug.

This is slightly incorrect.

Shell Rotella T and T6 are appropriate for your motorcycle.
Rotella T5 is not, as it has the friction modifiers.

[NinjaDaddio]

Hey HorizonXP,...actually if you re-read my post you see that I don't actually mention Rotella T5 (only mentioned T and T6). What is interesting is that many of you have been able to find Rotella T 5W40 in your local market areas. I live south of Kansas City, and all I can find is Rotella T 15W40. I have been able to find Rotella T6, as well as the Mobil 1 4T Racing Synthetic designed specifically for motorcycles. I found the Mobil1 product at AutoZone, but at a price of $10 per quart. AZ also had Castrol's 4T motorcycle oil in a 10W40 viscosity range, but that's conventional oil. They both have the JASO MA rating on the back of the bottle. I realize that a lot of bikers use the Rotella T6 Synthetic,..and swear by it. I wasn't trying to indicate that it shouldn't be used,....only that it's JASO rating on the back was MB,...rather then MA. MA indicates that it has absolutely no friction modifiers. MB indicates that it does have some basic modifiers. Take a look at Mark Lawrence's websites where he breaks down oil ratings, etc. He provides a wealth of knowledge about different oil ratings, etc.

[HorizonXP]

Originally Posted by NinjaDaddio

Hey HorizonXP,...actually if you re-read my post you see that I don't actually mention Rotella T5 (only mentioned T and T6). What is interesting is that many of you have been able to find Rotella T 5W40 in your local market areas. I live south of Kansas City, and all I can find is Rotella T 15W40. I have been able to find Rotella T6, as well as the Mobil 1 4T Racing Synthetic designed specifically for motorcycles. I found the Mobil1 product at AutoZone, but at a price of $10 per quart. AZ also had Castrol's 4T motorcycle oil in a 10W40 viscosity range, but that's conventional oil. They both have the JASO MA rating on the back of the bottle. I realize that a lot of bikers use the Rotella T6 Synthetic,..and swear by it. I wasn't trying to indicate that it shouldn't be used,....only that it's JASO rating on the back was MB,...rather then MA. MA indicates that it has absolutely no friction modifiers. MB indicates that it does have some basic modifiers. Take a look at Mark Lawrence's websites where he breaks down oil ratings, etc. He provides a wealth of knowledge about different oil ratings, etc.

Unless you're T6 is somehow different, that is incorrect. It has a JASO MA specification.

[dubojr1]

All three gallons I have on hand of T6 are JASO MA.

[CZroe]

They were all once known as Rotella T (1)#W-## until more recently. The "6" really only means you have new stock. Most agree that you should use the 5W-40, which is now known as T6. The JASO label and seal should say MA and not say "Energy Conserving." AFAIK, neither Rotella T 15W-40 nor Rotella T/T6 5W-40 are supposed to have these friction modifiers or indications on the seal.

Anyway, I got three jugs of the stuff for under $20 USD earlier this Summer thanks to dubojr1's Advance Auto Parts deal.

[NinjaDaddio]

You are all exactly right. I went back to Wally World and checked out the jugs of Rotella T6 they had on the shelf,..and it is indeed marked "JASO MA". I think what threw me off was an area in the ratings section that was printed as "MB Approval 228.31". I was quickly scanning all of the synthetic oils for that infamous "MA" marking and simply came across the MB area first. So,...sorry I added all this confusion to the Rotella series. I do wish that I could find the deals on T6 that most of you seem to come across. I ended up picking up the 1 gallon jug of T6 for $24.99 at Autozone. Wally had it a little higher. I'm going to run the T6 in both my Ninja250 and Ninja500,...and then next change switch over to the comparable Amsoil product. That way I'll be able to determine which one allows for easier shifting on both bikes,...and perhaps cooler operating temps. Anyone use the Mobil 1 Racing T4 oil?