July 11th, 2012, 01:14 AM | #1 |
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oh my god i am so happy!
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July 11th, 2012, 01:18 AM | #3 |
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July 11th, 2012, 03:17 AM | #4 |
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You're better off saving that $$$ for a larger bike and having something reliable and fast in the end.
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July 11th, 2012, 04:22 AM | #5 |
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July 11th, 2012, 04:34 AM | #6 |
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Rules of thumb based on many years of experience:
1) DIY tweaking is fun for its own sake. Sure, you can just go buy something faster/more comfortable/cooler and ultimately spend less time, less money, and end up with a better result. But when you DIY, it's YOURS because YOU did it and that beats buying a toy any day of the week. I've been modding everything from cars to bicycles to guitars to motorcycles for 30 years off and on. I've been through the mod vs. buy thing multiple times. It's true. 2) Projects that get completed are WAY better than projects that will be cool if they ever get done….someday…maybe….if only I can find the time…and the money…and……….. 3) In the long run, simpler DIYs are more satisfying than big, ambitious DIYs because they're much more likely to get done and you can, you know, go RIDE YOUR BIKE. See 2 above. 4) Combining more than one big, ambitious project does not add to the difficulty. It MULTIPLIES the difficulty. There are more variables, more opportunities to screw up, more things that can go wrong, more points of interaction, more to think about, more to do. 5) Every project costs twice as much as you think it will and takes three times as long… and those are the simple projects. For complex projects, don't double that…. square it. I'll leave you with a bit of friendly advice. Don't try to do the gauges, turbo and EFI all at the same time. Do one, get it DONE and sorted before you even think about doing the next. Good luck! Hope it all ends well. |
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July 11th, 2012, 05:14 AM | #7 |
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nah i wanna have something noone else does which is why im going to turbo my two fiddy
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July 11th, 2012, 06:00 AM | #8 |
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well my cousin owns a turbo shop, so i have him to help me out with getting the turbo, wastegate and blow off valves, and then the efi kit, i already know a pretty good bit about how to get it to work, the ecu that comes with the ecotrons kit supports turbo chargers, and the koso gauges are simple as pie to install, so i think i will have something that noone else does, and that is indeed the goal :]
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July 11th, 2012, 06:23 AM | #9 | |
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July 11th, 2012, 06:28 AM | #10 | |
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i know what im doing, trust ME ive done crazier things before! the only way that i'd blow the engine is to have ran over 15 lbs of boost, with stock rods and pistons, however, i am running my bike right now with aftermarket forged rods and pistons, so its not a problem, i could run exessive boost without a worry come through my mind. theres someone in indonesia that did the turbo on a ninja 250, however they did with a carbeurator blow-through system which means they wouldnt be able to gain boost fast enough for it to matter, i'd be the first to do it with aftermarket efi
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July 11th, 2012, 06:34 AM | #11 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it more the bottom of the motor that is not engineered for that kind of power. Titanium pistons, rods, and head won't keep the bottom from self destructing.
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July 11th, 2012, 06:44 AM | #12 |
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well what really goes wrong is the turbo causes the pistons to burn up and they melt, and it gets thrashed about up into the valves and thats when the fun starts, and you go flying in the air ;p but i have it figured out so it wont happen
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July 11th, 2012, 06:57 AM | #13 |
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Mods usually fall under one of two categories. 1) cosmetic and/or performance reasons. 2) making people think "why...?". A turbo on the 250 is leaning towards the latter.
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July 11th, 2012, 06:59 AM | #14 |
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mine falls under both and another 3) because i can!
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July 11th, 2012, 07:36 AM | #15 |
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I just read all the same things, the 250 cannot support turbo's. You're going to end up blowing something in the engine. regardless of aftermarket parts.
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July 11th, 2012, 08:00 AM | #16 |
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Best. Reason. Ever.
I will watch this with interest... not because I would want to do such a thing, but simply because I appreciate someone who knows what they want, is willing to really go for it, and is interested in making a significant change to the machine (as opposed to just farkling it... I have no patience with posers). Oh, and the KERBLAMMO story will be great, I'm sure..... |
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July 11th, 2012, 08:07 AM | #17 | |
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July 11th, 2012, 09:02 AM | #18 |
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I say go for it!!! I've done many a stupid things because I could... now granted the aftermath of some of my adventures never quite turned out the way I thought they would... but it was always worth the laughs I had with my buddies afterwards
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July 11th, 2012, 09:08 AM | #19 |
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It's not that the 250 can't support a turbo. The problem is this . For a turbo to not just be a decoration it needs to make power. How much? Let's say 25 hp . Just for conversation. Ten is not enough and fifty is too much. So 25 hp on a 25 hp bike that can easley be tuned to 35. So we really are talking about 15 hp addition or about 50 hp. Not the moon. I think that is realistic. THE PROBLEM IS you are making the marten of error very small. If it goes lean even a little it will burn a valve. Melt a piston enough to cause the ring to pinch or what ever LITTLE problem causes it to run on one cylinder. It can be done. I have the nitrous worked out and working. But not before breaking five engines.
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July 11th, 2012, 10:28 AM | #20 |
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This thread can one one of three ways, he either:
1) Comes back saying: "OMG guise, I need a new engeen!"/We see his bike parted out in the ForSale section/Craigslist 2) Comes back saying: "SUCK IT GUISE! Check out my new 250 with turbauce! 50hp babby!" 3) Doesn't come back. I for one, look forward to what will happen.
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July 11th, 2012, 11:02 AM | #23 |
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haha I have 3 stickers, 15+HP!! :O
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July 11th, 2012, 11:35 AM | #24 |
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July 11th, 2012, 02:27 PM | #25 | |
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The only way doing all of this makes any sense is if you live in a country where you are limited to the size of motorcycle you can ride. I can't be sure, but I think nowhere in America does such a thing. I've never heard of it, at least. Why don't you do something useful with the money and donate it to a charity instead? Cancer research or something. Or be smart and save/invest it. I understand you're going to do whatever you feel like, it's just frustrating to see such a waste... Oh well, anyone have the popcorn? Time to watch a show. |
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July 11th, 2012, 02:45 PM | #26 | |
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July 11th, 2012, 04:27 PM | #27 |
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How much power will a turbo really add? At what boost? Will it be safe?
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July 11th, 2012, 04:32 PM | #28 | |
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July 11th, 2012, 04:51 PM | #30 | |
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July 11th, 2012, 05:09 PM | #31 |
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I just think adding a turbo on a 250 is stupid. The kit and install will almost run the price of his bike.
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July 11th, 2012, 05:11 PM | #32 |
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Great, thanks for your opinion, too bad its stupid
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July 11th, 2012, 05:19 PM | #33 |
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Naw man, I think Im pretty much in the majority here.
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July 11th, 2012, 05:54 PM | #35 |
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this is the turbo i am going to use, it will spool fast, and compress the air good, its from a seadoo, its an IHI turbo(if you dont know what ihi is, its one of the best small engine turbo comanies) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTORCYCLE-Q...f8c208&vxp=mtr
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Its true, you will start to budget your modding money so you can buy track days. Its amazing, you must go!
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sorry im hard headed ive been wanting to do it for a while so im set on doing it :]
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