SPORTISI's NINJA 250/300EFI TURBOCHARGER KIT

[Racer x]

I like the VZ 21. Not only is the map perfect but it has all the repair parts available.
Are you water cooling the turbo?

I only think of power in 6th gear. With 50 HP the 14000 will come very quick below fifth gear.

[bprayogo]

no water cooling just oil cooled and lubrication

[Racer x]

That's all you need. But there is a water pipe available.

I just can't wait for this to be released! I love the 300, but I really just want a bit more power out of it, and this will be absolutely perfect for me.

I have just a few questions:
1. I believe this has been answered in other forums (possibly even this one, but forgive me if I missed that bit of info), but how much do you think this kit will cost?
2. Do you have any sort of time frame for release, even a wild guess?
3. Will you be able to put together a detailed video and/or a detailed set of instructions for putting all of this together for the non-mechanically inclined riders such as myself? I have a shop that I could take it to, but I much rather put it on myself if had a nice set of instructions

I can pretty much guarantee that the second this is put up for sale, I will be picking one up

EDIT: One more question. I have been wondering this since I saw the first video, but is the speedometer in KMH or MPH (probably a stupid question, but just want to be sure)? Also, what is the anticipated top speed of the bike in real world situations? Thanks!

[Racer x]

A 250/300 ninja with an average size rider should hit 120 mph in a mile with 40 HP.

[Dark]

Get the setup ready for production and sell it, I'm waiting to buy.


I just need a kit that will be capable of 50+ with custom tunes/boost.

[bprayogo]

Originally Posted by Heli12345

I just can't wait for this to be released! I love the 300, but I really just want a bit more power out of it, and this will be absolutely perfect for me.

I have just a few questions:
1. I believe this has been answered in other forums (possibly even this one, but forgive me if I missed that bit of info), but how much do you think this kit will cost?
2. Do you have any sort of time frame for release, even a wild guess?
3. Will you be able to put together a detailed video and/or a detailed set of instructions for putting all of this together for the non-mechanically inclined riders such as myself? I have a shop that I could take it to, but I much rather put it on myself if had a nice set of instructions

I can pretty much guarantee that the second this is put up for sale, I will be picking one up

EDIT: One more question. I have been wondering this since I saw the first video, but is the speedometer in KMH or MPH (probably a stupid question, but just want to be sure)? Also, what is the anticipated top speed of the bike in real world situations? Thanks!

The parts that will take longest to produce is the intercooler . I'll post some more pics so you all can see . We are currently looking for a manufacturer for this part after we find em then we can release the approximate release date for the kit .

and our speedometer is in KMH

[Racer x]

Looking forward to your progress. 200 kph is 125 mph.

[bprayogo]

[Racer x]

NICE !
A water to air intercooler. The race bikes use them with ice water in the gas tank.

[Dark]

Going to offer a kit without the intercooler?

Any data logging to show the benefits of your intercooler?

[gt_turbo]

water 2 air ic, sweet!

[Seifer48]

Very interested as well! Was looking into custom fabbing a Turbo setup for my 300. I'd love to pick one of these up!

[felo]

i would like to see a dyno sheet of this...

[bprayogo]

Originally Posted by felo

i would like to see a dyno sheet of this...

page 2 my friend. and remember thats a ninja 250r not a 300

[bprayogo]

street riding video- sorry bad traffic

Link to original page on YouTube.

[Dark]

awesome clip.

[WingnuttZX3R]

A water to air intercooler would be insanely impractical, costly and overly complex with no real gains to be had whatsoever.

With such low boost levels a simple small AIR/AIR intercooler is that would ever be needed.

[vanman69]

Originally Posted by WingnuttZX3R

A water to air intercooler would be insanely impractical, costly and overly complex with no real gains to be had whatsoever.

With such low boost levels a simple small AIR/AIR intercooler is that would ever be needed.

i agree, air/air would be much more practical

[subxero]

Originally Posted by bprayogo

Sorry took so long
but we did it - slapping on a water to air intercooler because the space is just too tight . we manage to reach 40.4hp and 26nm torque .

going to make a street riding video


http://www.freeimagehosting.net/6fcj7

I haven't read every post so I could have missed something but how come there isn't crazy turbo lag shown on the dyno read out? Especially if the boost is not kicking in until 9k? or even 8k rpm?

If that is the case at 7krpm the boost has not hit yet right? but the chart is still showing pretty significant torque and hp numbers.

Tell me I am missing something.

Has there been any rough estimates on pricing for this kit yet? $500? $1000? more? Does it include EFI kit, or just turbo components?
As much as I am all about tweaking out small displacement bikes and getting them to haul *** I question the actual usefulness of this outside of drag/landspeed racing.
Seems like a lot of work trying to polish a turd so to speak. I don't necessarily think the 250 is a turd but putting a turbo on a stock ninja 250 seems like the American approach to sports cars. "HEY!! lets put the biggest engine we can fit into it so it makes tons of unusable torque and completely neglect suspension, brakes and general handling so we can offer it at a low cost"

could be i'm getting old and grumpy but at some point I feel like you have to draw a line and say... ya know what, I can just buy a different bike that has comparable or more HP than the turbo offers but in turn also get better suspension, brakes ect... at a similar cost and with no work on my part or chance of me totally efing everything up.

ok ok so I see this coming (you are missing the point! I want the fastest most tricked out ninja 250 on the west coast, I don't care about other bikes) but I do get it and unfortunately it's just not worth it IMO. I see regret in your future.

(I guess i'm Debbie downer today WTF? )

[choneofakind]

^^ I see where you're coming from. They should make cartridge drop-ins, Ohlins shock, SS lines, Vesrah pads, Tapered head bearings, 420 chain conversion, and DRII's part of that kit as well. Race bike in a box, forget the turbo

[DuplexUno]

so has there been any progress on this kit so far ?

[elguano]

Same Here, looking to custom fab a Turbo Kit, had experience on custom fab a Skidoo 4stroke 1200 and installed a twin on a 5.0 Mustang...

So anyone else thinking about doing this?

[Racer x]

I am in the middle of one. It's on hold for a couple months as I develop my fuel injected nitrous bike.

[elguano]

What are you using as a Turbo?

What are you plan on lowering down CR? I was thinking of a thicker head gasket (That what we did on the 1200 skidoo)

Fuel Management?

Bigger Injectors?

Thanks

[Racer x]

I am using the VZ 21 turbo. You can use thick gaskets to lower compression. But you need forged pistons. Wossner or JE will make anything you need. Either way you will need to deal with changing cam timing.

I addition to the turbo I am using Ecotrons fuel injection system. I am building a turbo with low boost. Under 7 psi and using high compression. This is an all out race engine not for the street.

[elguano]

Well as far as timing, those guys sell adjustable cam sproket

http://ape-store.com/shopsite/page34.html

250 are the same as the 300 as per kawa EPC

[Racer x]

I think the gears come from a 900 actually. But you can also slot the holes. It's knowing how much the change that is the key.

[mgentz]

Listen to Eric

[GHill762]

any update on this turbo kit?

[APEmike]

Interested in an update aswell. I have to let you know however, the cam sprockets mentioned are discontinued and they are most definatly not from a 900. They ONLY fit Newgen 250s and 300s. The ones we made were specifically designed for the 250. Not enough interest to sell enough of them to keep them in production.

[Racer x]

That is really a shame. I need two sets

[JohnnyBravo]

All this talk of turbos

[garth285]

:-)

[Racer x]

You better check wheel clearance and oil drain back. I had that exact placement and it was to low

[garth285]

going to check the wheel tomorrow, as for drainage I will run a pump if needed.

[Racer x]

I think there is a way to run oil pressure from the engine and an evacuation pump to put the oil back into the sump. The oil is is the only thing I have left to do. I plan to run back to the clutch cover and pull oil from the pressure tap on the block.

[Racer x]

One more thing. What does your exhaust flange look like?

[garth285]

Originally Posted by Racer x

I think there is a way to run oil pressure from the engine and an evacuation pump to put the oil back into the sump. The oil is is the only thing I have left to do. I plan to run back to the clutch cover and pull oil from the pressure tap on the block.

yeah exactly, you can pull oil from the galley plug on the right side of the motor or from the banjo bolt on the head. I have the adapter for both but will probably run it from the galley I think it was a 18mm plug or so but I have an adapter to give me a 4AN fitting.... from there I will actually try to return the oil back threw another banjo type fitting to one of the oil drain plugs and if I need it I will run a scavenge pump down low. The turbo won't be above the oil level line so it should work out. I'll know in about a week :-)

[garth285]

Originally Posted by Racer x

One more thing. What does your exhaust flange look like?

I'll post up pics tomorrow, for starters I'm going to run something sorta ugly and just dumping out to the side but will have my o2 sensor in it for base line tuning....