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Old January 10th, 2015, 11:29 PM   #1
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A woman says she was mistaken for the suspect in a police chase and is now seeking an apology from the state trooper who apprehended her.

Erika Strickland says that instead of pulling over the right motorcyclist, the trooper stopped her, slammed her to the ground and pointed a gun at her face.

Strickland, a jail supervisor in the metro Atlanta area, wants the Georgia State Patrol to apologize for how it treated her.

Strickland became emotional when she told Channel 2’s Tom Jones how she was humiliated and thought she was going to lose her life.

”Words cannot explain the way I felt of having a gun in my face and then being slammed to the ground for something that I didn't do,” Strickland said. “I had to be on the ground like that. That is just really embarrassing to me.”

Her nightmare began when troopers chased a motorcycle for 21 miles on Highway 185, then lost sight of it.

That's when trooper W.E Tatum pulled over Strickland, who was on a similar motorcycle.

Tatum admits pushing Strickland to the ground and pointing his weapon at her because he says she didn't put her hands up.

She said her bike would have jerked if she had.

”I knew if I would have let go and the bike did that jerking movement, I would have gotten shot,” Strickland said.

Another officer arrived and told Tatum that Strickland wasn't the one they were chasing.

Jones filed an open records request to get the video of Tatum taking her to the ground. The department told Jones that it couldn't be retrieved from a hard drive.

They sent video from a second trooper that doesn't show the takedown. The video shows that the person they were chasing was wearing a reflective vest.

Strickland was not wearing such a vest.

The person being chased didn't appear to have on a pink Mohawk helmet, as Strickland was wearing at the time.

Strickland, a breast cancer survivor, became emotional when she heard herself crying on the video, asking the troopers why they treated her this way.

”I mean, that's bad when you haven't done anything. That's bad,” Strickland said.




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Old January 11th, 2015, 12:02 AM   #2
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Old January 11th, 2015, 06:13 AM   #3
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Damn. He was power trippin' on adrenaline as folks often do when they have power.

That sucks ass. Hope the chick gets some $$ or something out of it at least.
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Old January 11th, 2015, 06:35 AM   #4
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That sucks. I hopes she gets that apology. Only a person with real integrity and class will ever admit and apologize for making a mistake which did more harm than good. If that trooper did not do it then, chances are he/she never will unless forced to.

On the lighter side...... Hi viz vest good, mohawks on helmets bad!
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Old January 11th, 2015, 07:19 AM   #5
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I think all officers should have to ride a motorcycle during training. I think they would then understand the machine and how different it is when they are pulled over. She stopped that was the first clue it wasn't her.
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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...ng-arre/njh5x/

That isn't a vest that the criminal is wearing, it's a reflective belt. Very common for military riders. 185 is immediately outside of Ft. Benning. Trooper crosstalk on the radio should have differentiated between a vest and a belt. Especially in a military community, where the belts are common.

I guess all bikes/riders are the same

Interesting how they could come up with one video, but not the relevant one

She is also local law enforcement
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Old January 11th, 2015, 08:50 AM   #7
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Man, police stations really should work on getting more reliable computers. Seems like they keep losing videos and are unable to show them when they would be really helpful! All this money on cameras and they're unable to be useful for anything because of computer problems.
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an apology wont do anything. having the state (us tax payers) pay her wont do anything. punishing the person who made a terrible mistake will do something. you abuse power being reckless, you should have that power taken away. he should be put on unpaid suspension for 3 months. if this was the punishment that was readily given out for abuse of power, guess how much less abuse of power there would be?
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Alex.s is spot on! Even a 2 week suspension without pay is going to hit hard. When you have bills, a mortgage, rent, vehicle payments, health insurance, etc. Losing out on 2 week's worth of a paycheck while sitting at home twirling your thumb is hard to swallow. It'll definitely give them plenty of free time to think about what they did to be in this situation. I guess this is a "time out" for adults?
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an apology wont do anything. having the state (us tax payers) pay her wont do anything. punishing the person who made a terrible mistake will do something. you abuse power being reckless, you should have that power taken away. he should be put on unpaid suspension for 3 months. if this was the punishment that was readily given out for abuse of power, guess how much less abuse of power there would be?
yeah I have to agree with this


as a female I can tell you it would be pretty terrifying to be in this situation. not sure how guys would feel about it but there's probably less of an element of fear and helplessness for them. I would definitely be angry like this and not let it go lightly at all.
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as a female I can tell you it would be pretty terrifying to be in this situation. not sure how guys would feel about it but there's probably less of an element of fear and helplessness for them. I would definitely be angry like this and not let it go lightly at all.
I'd be angry because I know if I "defended myself" I'd get shot or tazed. Abuse of power just isn't right. We are supposed to respect officers, not fear them.
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an apology wont do anything. having the state (us tax payers) pay her wont do anything. punishing the person who made a terrible mistake will do something. you abuse power being reckless, you should have that power taken away. he should be put on unpaid suspension for 3 months. if this was the punishment that was readily given out for abuse of power, guess how much less abuse of power there would be?
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same one who stuck his head in a lawnmower?
No that one is somehow still alive, just saw him the other day.
He didn't stick his head in the mower, he tried to look under the deck an the blade bolt came apart slinging the blade out.
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Man, police stations really should work on getting more reliable computers. Seems like they keep losing videos and are unable to show them when they would be really helpful! All this money on cameras and they're unable to be useful for anything because of computer problems.
And it's totally coincidental that all the ones lost are the vids that show the cops being total a-holes.

Convenient, and coincidental, I tells ya.

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Years ago a friend was riding his VFR750 to work when he came across a bunch of parked State PD cars on the side of the highway. As he approached they blocked the road, stopped him, yelled at him. He had no idea what was going on. As he removed his helmet another one of them pulled up and recognized him and asked him what was going on. At that moment another VFR750 came blasting by well over the speed limit - the one they had gotten a heads up about. My friend got to go as they realized they had the wrong VFR. Nothing became of it on either end as it didn't go beyond him being yelled and screamed at.
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Years ago, officers weren't trained to stick a gun in your back and throw you to the ground quite as readily. Don't get me wrong, I think the police get way too much bad PR and way too much hate from the public to the point that their job is stupid hard and stupid dangerous. But they really shouldn't be so aggressive, so quickly.
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It does sound like the trooper was too aggressive. However, contrary to the original post, it doesn't appear she was arrested, which would usually involve handcuffs and time in the back seat of a police car, but instead detained.
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It does sound like the trooper was too aggressive. However, contrary to the original post, it doesn't appear she was arrested, which would usually involve handcuffs and time in the back seat of a police car, but instead detained.
In security I was always trained that even touching someone could get us sued for "false arrest" and, therefore, we had to have all our ducks in a row before even simply touching someone ("using force" LOL). I guess they could claim that it impeded their ability to move freely.
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Years ago, officers weren't trained to stick a gun in your back and throw you to the ground quite as readily. Don't get me wrong, I think the police get way too much bad PR and way too much hate from the public to the point that their job is stupid hard and stupid dangerous. But they really shouldn't be so aggressive, so quickly.
1. They've earned all the 'bad PR' they get.
2. They make their own job hard, because of their attitude.
3. Being a cop didn't even make it into the top ten most dangerous jobs, although that might finally be changing, based on the blowback they are getting for their own actions.
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1. They've earned all the 'bad PR' they get.
2. They make their own job hard, because of their attitude.
3. Being a cop didn't even make it into the top ten most dangerous jobs, although that might finally be changing, based on the blowback they are getting for their own actions.
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1. They've earned all the 'bad PR' they get.
2. They make their own job hard, because of their attitude.
3. Being a cop didn't even make it into the top ten most dangerous jobs, although that might finally be changing, based on the blowback they are getting for their own actions.
1. yes. i agree mostly. almost every single instance of bad pr for the police i have seen has been some idiot who was given authority (or a group of idiots) making a massive judgement fault due to emotional or societal biases. bad PR happens because bad things happen. you don't get bad PR because a cop saved a kid. you get bad PR because a cop shot a kid playing in a park with a toy gun without trying to tell him to put it down first. but if you look at the history, things are getting better. the police at least do not drop bombs from helicopters on your town because you're rich and black (this has actually happened- many times actually. most notably in the 80s when hundreds were killed from the fires and bombs (no charges filed) and as recently as the 1990s when michigan police burnt down 3 square blocks after dropping a bomb on a gang house... surprisingly the police had no idea how to use bombs correctly)

2. not entirely so. it can be a difficult job at times. but making bad decisions definitely makes any job harder.

3. i doubt it will make it into the top 10 any time soon in america. we are becoming more and more peaceful, even if our reporting of violence increases.
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In any of these situations, often all it takes is stepping back and really looking at the incident from both sides. It's hard to do, but more often than not things are not as cut and dry as they seem at first.

I like this story that popped up a little bit ago.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing

result of 65 innocent houses being burnt down by police after dropping 2 bombs on the house of a group that was having a standoff with police.

why did a standoff need to happen as opposed to trying to reign in individuals? (it didn't)

why did the police need to drop bombs instead of following procedure when faced with an armed standoff situation? (they didn't -> this is totally illegal. the FBI was behind supplying the bomb material)

so please- don't believe for one second that people are always innocent if they have good intentions.

hitler had good intentions. does anyone believe hitler was right in murdering millions of people because... he had good intentions for a small group of people? no.
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All I was saying is that its not always immediately obvious who's right or wrong. Some times it is. Some times it is not.

Some times what we think or hear happened turns out to be flat out wrong and the truth was something completely different.

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If the cops are scared to be cops maybe they should be behind a desk somewhere instead of being out in the field.
Cops
Wear body armor
Are trained shooters
Have self defense training

Criminals
Wear there pants hanging low
Have guns
Sing momma said knock you out, bump chests, talk loud, and smell each other

Although guns shoot very fast, most people aren't good shots so they will aim center mass and hit your armor. Yes you can die quickly from a gun shot pre emotive strikes just because are not SOP except under high alert situations (these are not high risk cases = kids with fake guns, nor fluffy guys that can't breath, nor a large young black male, or a kid toting tea and skittles ) if ya can't handle the heat stay out of the kitchen!
They have sent lots of good soldiers to prison in war zones for less than what they let these ass hats get away with and probly give them a ****in promotion as well.
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I'd love to see a cop get what he deserves and lose his job for this bs. Ridiculous, there is NO reason to stick a GUN into someone's back when they were not resisting arrest or posed a threat. She couldn't put her hands up because she had to properly stop the bike... He's probably so dumb he doesn't even know how to drive a manual vehicle never mind know how one works..

And we pay this man's salary? Yeah, I can definitely sympathize with anarchists when I read this crap.
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All I was saying is that its not always immediately obvious who's right or wrong. Some times it is. Some times it is not.

Some times what we think or hear happened turns out to be flat out wrong and the truth was something completely different.

That's all.
And it's ok to be wrong! That's kinda the point of why I'm so hard on police (and politicians, but I've all but given up on them). The adult thing to do is own up, apologize, accept your punishment if warranted, and learn from it. But time after time, the police act like spoiled, entitled three year olds, bolstered by the police unions (and I'm generally very pre-union!) and the system that won't prosecute for actual crimes, won't even bother investigating most of the time, and when they do, rig the system in a way that no normal citizen would ever get.

And the policeshould be held to higher standard with regard to following and obeying (and knowing) the law. That's their job!!!

The system is corrupt, and seriously needs civilian oversight. And I'm pretty sure it's gotten way past the point of a few bad apples. It may not be that the majority of cops are bad, but the percentage is high enough that they usually are able to intimidate the few good ones left, and the system is set up to promote and protect the worst of them (much like our political system has gotten).
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Old January 14th, 2015, 12:17 PM   #38
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Years ago, officers weren't trained to stick a gun in your back and throw you to the ground quite as readily. Don't get me wrong, I think the police get way too much bad PR and way too much hate from the public to the point that their job is stupid hard and stupid dangerous. But they really shouldn't be so aggressive, so quickly.
You need some perspective on this from the police point of view: the entire country is armed with weapons designed to kill, and maybe 1% know how to use them safely.
This made the press because he erred on the side of caution, but he very easily could have made the press for worrying about public opinion and have gotten killed.
These incidents will escalate as long as more and more people can carry loaded guns around.
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Old January 14th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #39
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Old January 14th, 2015, 03:17 PM   #40
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You need some perspective on this from the police point of view: the entire country is armed with weapons designed to kill, and maybe 1% know how to use them safely.
This made the press because he erred on the side of caution, but he very easily could have made the press for worrying about public opinion and have gotten killed.
These incidents will escalate as long as more and more people can carry loaded guns around.
Stupid logic... It's not the law abiding citizens carrying guns that they need to worry about, it's the criminals. Guess what? Criminals will always have guns whether they're allowed to or not. That's why they're criminals.
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