new gen shock on pre gen

juanpak87 · September 3rd, 2013, 06:12 AM

Hey all, i want to change the shock on my bike and was wondering if all i need is the new gen shock or is there more parts i need to change it?

GeorgeRYoung · September 3rd, 2013, 06:21 AM

I've put the shock from an '08 onto my '89 EX250 with good results.

You'll need some form of adjustor to change the preload.

Alex · September 3rd, 2013, 10:23 AM

@choneofakind has one on his as well.

choneofakind · September 3rd, 2013, 11:53 AM

The shock is a straight swap. I bought the OE adjuster tool for the newgen from cheapcycleparts.

All you have to do is take off the old shock and then bolt the new one in its place. The coolant reservoir is even shaped correctly to allow you access to the top bolt without removing anything.

Also, keep an eye out for new shocks off the 300. Rumor has it they revalved the shock for a little more damping. That's a straight swap as well, and it will have many fewer miles than an 08-12 shock (most likely)

Singh2jz · September 3rd, 2013, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

@choneofakind has one on his as well.

haha it's funny how I would've paged chone as well..lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

...Rumor has it they revalved the shock for a little more damping...

What would the increase in damping do?

choneofakind · September 3rd, 2013, 02:38 PM

More damping will make the shock resist compression/rebound. So if you notice issues with your bike pogo-ing, you might look into a 300 shock.

Or I guess I should say different valving for different damping. Not sure if it's more or less damping but reviews of the suspension seem generally positive in comparison to the newgen (and the pregen for sure!)

7oxSin · September 3rd, 2013, 02:48 PM

Lychee · September 3rd, 2013, 04:16 PM

300 shock works well on my bike. Don't have a new gen shock to compare against, but I have heard the same rumors that Chris heard.

fr1dayn1ght · September 4th, 2013, 07:01 PM

Sorry for hijacking the thread but i didnt wanna start a new one.
I just put the newgen shock on my pregen, went for a ride and didn't notice any difference...the little handle is at the middle (3rd?) right now
which setting am i looking at for riding solo and 2up? should I move the handle higher for stiffer rear?
edit: opps forgot to mention, im 135lbs btw

Singh2jz · September 4th, 2013, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr1dayn1ght

Sorry for hijacking the thread but i didnt wanna start a new one.
I just put the newgen shock on my pregen, went for a ride and didn't notice any difference...the little handle is at the middle (3rd?) right now
which setting am i looking at for riding solo and 2up? should I move the handle higher for stiffer rear?
edit: opps forgot to mention, im 135lbs btw

Change it to the 5th(stiffest) setting..

choneofakind · September 4th, 2013, 09:10 PM

You didnt notice any difference? It was pretty apparent to me when I made the switch. Not perfect, but a definite improvement as far as smooshyness goes.

I'm also 135 without gear.

fr1dayn1ght · September 5th, 2013, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

You didnt notice any difference? It was pretty apparent to me when I made the switch. Not perfect, but a definite improvement as far as smooshyness goes.

I'm also 135 without gear.

I guess i just didnt know where to look at to see the difference, i ran over a couple bumps but couldnt tell
btw how do you adjust your shock on the pregen? I cant find any way to fit my hand and the wrench without taking off the chain guard everytime...

choneofakind · September 5th, 2013, 08:10 AM

The spanner wrench fits under the undertail, but just barely. I pointed the spanner wrench directly at the rear wheel and turned from that position. No jamming on the chain guarg. I currently have trimmed that plastic flap off to get some more clearance for my hugger (see my photos) but I was able to adjust the preload without removing anything before I installed my hugger.

Be sure to use the centerstand (if you have one) or put the bike on the sidestand to get some weight off the rear wheel. This will make the adjustment much easier.

Lychee · September 5th, 2013, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Be sure to use the centerstand (if you have one) or put the bike on the sidestand to get some weight off the rear wheel. This will make the adjustment much easier.

Oh that's genius! why didn't I think of that yesterday. I did manage to find enough room to adjust after taking off the left knee fairing though.

juanpak87 · September 9th, 2013, 07:55 AM

So i installed a new gen shock on my bike this weekend successfully. It was super easy, hardest part was taking off the bolt/nut because it was locked in tight. But, used wd40 and a pipe as leverage n it came right off. Put the new gen shock in its place n retightened everything n now i ride smooth. Thanks for the help guys.

September 3rd, 2013, 06:12 AM	#1
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September 3rd, 2013, 06:21 AM	#2
GeorgeRYoung ninjette.org member Name: George Location: Ottawa, Canada Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): EX250, C10 Concours Posts: 109	I've put the shock from an '08 onto my '89 EX250 with good results. You'll need some form of adjustor to change the preload.

September 3rd, 2013, 11:53 AM	#4
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	The shock is a straight swap. I bought the OE adjuster tool for the newgen from cheapcycleparts. All you have to do is take off the old shock and then bolt the new one in its place. The coolant reservoir is even shaped correctly to allow you access to the top bolt without removing anything. Also, keep an eye out for new shocks off the 300. Rumor has it they revalved the shock for a little more damping. That's a straight swap as well, and it will have many fewer miles than an 08-12 shock (most likely)

September 3rd, 2013, 02:38 PM	#6
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	More damping will make the shock resist compression/rebound. So if you notice issues with your bike pogo-ing, you might look into a 300 shock. Or I guess I should say different valving for different damping. Not sure if it's more or less damping but reviews of the suspension seem generally positive in comparison to the newgen (and the pregen for sure!)

September 4th, 2013, 07:01 PM	#9
fr1dayn1ght ninjette.org member Name: Binh Location: NJ Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): '07 Ninja 250 (sold), 2013 CB500F Posts: 125	Sorry for hijacking the thread but i didnt wanna start a new one. I just put the newgen shock on my pregen, went for a ride and didn't notice any difference...the little handle is at the middle (3rd?) right now which setting am i looking at for riding solo and 2up? should I move the handle higher for stiffer rear? edit: opps forgot to mention, im 135lbs btw

September 4th, 2013, 09:10 PM	#11
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	You didnt notice any difference? It was pretty apparent to me when I made the switch. Not perfect, but a definite improvement as far as smooshyness goes. I'm also 135 without gear.

September 5th, 2013, 08:10 AM	#13
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	The spanner wrench fits under the undertail, but just barely. I pointed the spanner wrench directly at the rear wheel and turned from that position. No jamming on the chain guarg. I currently have trimmed that plastic flap off to get some more clearance for my hugger (see my photos) but I was able to adjust the preload without removing anything before I installed my hugger. Be sure to use the centerstand (if you have one) or put the bike on the sidestand to get some weight off the rear wheel. This will make the adjustment much easier.

September 9th, 2013, 07:55 AM	#15
juanpak87 ninjette.org member Name: juan Location: jersey city Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 21	So i installed a new gen shock on my bike this weekend successfully. It was super easy, hardest part was taking off the bolt/nut because it was locked in tight. But, used wd40 and a pipe as leverage n it came right off. Put the new gen shock in its place n retightened everything n now i ride smooth. Thanks for the help guys.