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Old August 25th, 2017, 04:16 PM   #1
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Worth $2k?

*EDIT: For the moment they don't have a title apparently so I'm washing my hands of it. If it's still up in a month and has a clean title maybe I'll throw out a ridiculously low number.

Stumbled across a 2014 Ninja 300 with 12,300 miles on the odometer. Asking $2000 but I get the feeling they'd negotiate a little bit.

It's at an impound lot, but will come with a clean title. Test rode it and seems to run well. Would need a decent washing and a small adjustment to the brake and clutch levers. Has some scratches, two small cracks in the plastics, and a tear in the pillion seat.

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Old August 25th, 2017, 05:23 PM   #2
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There are a lot of little things wrong in the photos, so you might be able to get him down a few hundred. Whatever you end up paying, count on buying a new chain and possibly sprockets.
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Old August 25th, 2017, 05:50 PM   #3
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It would have to be a lot cheaper than that for me to be interested in it.

It may have other issues that aren't obvious as well.
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Old August 25th, 2017, 06:12 PM   #4
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It may have other issues that aren't obvious as well.
That's the important thing... checking it out thoroughly.
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Old August 25th, 2017, 09:00 PM   #5
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2K for a 300 is not bad. Scratches are nothing, it's the frame that matters. Drive it around for a while and see if it really rides straight and if the engine has cooling problems. There's ebay for parts or buy the parts new. Take it to a shop to have it checked if you really like it. It's a nice upgrade over a 250. I just wouldn't buy it for the color, it would have the be green or white lol I have a black 250 already.
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Old August 25th, 2017, 09:15 PM   #6
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To me, that bike not only looks badly neglected, but downright abused. It's looks pretty beat. Personally, I'd pass. Spend a few bucks more and get one that's nice. This one's too much of a gamble. There's a reason it's in that tow yard, and I doubt if it's a positive one. Look for something with a documented history, or at least one that was obviously taken care of.
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There are a lot of little things wrong in the photos, so you might be able to get him down a few hundred. Whatever you end up paying, count on buying a new chain and possibly sprockets.
I don't think I'd take it for any more than $1,700 assuming nothing else is wrong besides the obvious.

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It may have other issues that aren't obvious as well.

A good point. The fact it was impounded and wasn't claimed doesn't speak to well for the previous owner. I suppose I've just been eager to get a track bike and/or a commuter that I didn't have to care about depreciation with. Half the time I ride my current bike all I'm thinking is, "Oh no, every mile is another dollar less that I can resell it for".

Motorcycling isn't a cheap hobby though, so maybe I should just accept that.

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\I just wouldn't buy it for the color, it would have the be green or white lol I have a black 250 already.
The color doesn't do it for me either, though I don't have a 250 or 300 currently. I've been riding larger bikes for a few years now after giving up my first bike, an 09 new gen (oh regret!).

That being said I have a 600 SS for my "shiny and pretty" bike, this one would be hopefully something I'm not afraid to drop on the track.
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Old August 26th, 2017, 08:37 AM   #8
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looks like a good $1500 set up for a track bike. a lot of the broken crap on the outside can be replaced/upgraded for racing/tracking.
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[QUOTE=The color doesn't do it for me either, though I don't have a 250 or 300 currently. I've been riding larger bikes for a few years now after giving up my first bike, an 09 new gen (oh regret!).

That being said I have a 600 SS for my "shiny and pretty" bike, this one would be hopefully something I'm not afraid to drop on the track.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like this bike is for you then. It's a fun little bike and enough to get the job done. I've been messing with small displacement bikes for a while now. I had a liter bike and a couple 6's. Maybe I'll shoot for a vintage style bike next time.
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I think that's a $1000, maybe $1500, bike like it sits.

It's technically totalled with all the scuffed-up bodywork and exhaust. It's got plenty of miles, and doesn't look like it's been maintained that well.

Get it, but get it cheap.
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Old August 27th, 2017, 12:59 PM   #11
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I actually think it's not THAT bad.

Look at this picture for example: https://ibb.co/dmCHWk

Obviously, the bike was dropped, but considering it doesn't even have a frame slider, the damage does NOT look severe, it probably wasn't any more than simple parking lot drop.
Same as on the other side too, it doesn't look severe enough to do any major damage.

12,300 miles is nothing on these motor, I've seen Ninja 250 with 100,000 miles and still running like a champ. As long as the previous owner did regular maintenance and stuff, I think it should be fine.

I think $1,500 is a good price but you should do a quick math to see how much it's gonna cost you to fix it up to your standard.

Personally, I would get a Chinese fairing kit on eBay.
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Old August 28th, 2017, 09:51 AM   #12
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I wouldn't buy it. It's not even worth $500 to me but that would be the price I would be comfortable with. It looks terrible and I'm not just referring to the plastics. You have to hammer home it's looks and all the stuff you'll have to do to it. And pick every little thing apart about how it looks and runs. I just couldn't hand over a grand. I would rather get a nice running/nice looking older bike for $1500. Do you know what you can get for 2K? A very very nice bike.
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Old August 28th, 2017, 01:24 PM   #13
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Engine may very well have been abused. Might be on verge of self-destruct from over-revving and/or low-oil or infrequent changes. For something like that, at very least, I'd want a compression/leakdown test. And send out oil-sample to lab for analysis.

But yea, no more than $1000 for me. For just a little more than that $2k, you can get a 300 in much, much better condition.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 01:33 AM   #14
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Engine may very well have been abused. Might be on verge of self-destruct from over-revving and/or low-oil or infrequent changes. For something like that, at very least, I'd want a compression/leakdown test. And send out oil-sample to lab for analysis.

But yea, no more than $1000 for me. For just a little more than that $2k, you can get a 300 in much, much better condition.
Sending the sample to oil analysis?
We're talking about sub $2,000 basic bike here...I might be wrong but even for high performance bikes it's a bit rare.

If it was a MV Agusta F4RR or some kind of high value vintage motorcycle, sure send it to $400+ full inspection.

But for something like this? I'd personally test drive it just like OP already did, and maybe rev the engine and see if there's any blue smoke, see if shows sign of rough idle, check the oil, unusual noise, etc.

Yeah like everyone said, maybe the engine will be dead next year, but that's the risk you take when you're buying a used bike.
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You don't have to take that risk. Leakdown test will give you condition of top-end. Used oil-analysis will tell you about bottom-end and costs only $28; tells tonnes about inside condition of engine.

It's $1-1.5k bike, and it can be a great deal or may require additional $1k to do engine-swap in 2-months. Sure, that's a relatively cheap repair, but for cost of bike + engine-swap, you can find better bikes out there. The UOA will tell you if it's a good deal or not.
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I think it's worth getting, but $2000 is just too much.

It's roughed-up and impounded. It should be cheap.
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You don't have to take that risk. Leakdown test will give you condition of top-end. Used oil-analysis will tell you about bottom-end and costs only $28; tells tonnes about inside condition of engine.

It's $1-1.5k bike, and it can be a great deal or may require additional $1k to do engine-swap in 2-months. Sure, that's a relatively cheap repair, but for cost of bike + engine-swap, you can find better bikes out there. The UOA will tell you if it's a good deal or not.
Have you ever sent your potential next bike's engine oil to the lab?
Personally, I haven't. I just test ride it and rev the engine and see if there's any unusual noise and/or symptoms.

No, I wasn't saying that you should voluntarily take unnecessary risk by purposely not checking the condition of bike, but when you buy an used bike, inevitably there's a risk.

Maybe sending the oil sample to the lab is a good idea, I was not trying to say it's a BAD idea, but it would take a long time. But it's up to you obviously.
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But yea, no more than $1000 for me. For just a little more than that $2k, you can get a 300 in much, much better condition.
Where in the world are you finding any 300 for anything close to $2k? Around here the cheapest I've ever seen was $2,800 for a bike without damage.

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I would rather get a nice running/nice looking older bike for $1500. Do you know what you can get for 2K? A very very nice bike.
That was my original plan, an older 250, well maintained. This just happened to pop up so I looked into.
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Are you guys talking about one of these?
I would personally rather have that 300 since it's decades newer.

Sure, you might be able to find something that's well maintained, but the metal will still be fatigued and every engineering components will be decades older.

Not saying that Ninja 300 was made with most modern top of the line technology available today, but still...

If that 300 didn't suffer any structural damage, I would personally stick to the 300 since it has EFI, ABS and all.

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...but the metal will still be fatigued... .
I understand your points and don't disagree except for the fatigue part. I doubt if the steel parts get above the fatigue limit very often or at all. Aluminum doesn't have a fatigue limit, so in theory parts like wheels will eventually crack, but you're talking many, many millions of stress cycles. My 1978 Lester wheels are still rolling along fine.
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Id sell mine with less miles and hardly no damage, plus parts for close to that if you picked it up... On this bike; I'm out
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Its a fallacy to believe because youre building a bike for the track its cheaper to pick up a clapped out bike, believe me I learned the hard way.

Spend a little extra to get one in good condition. Then you can sell off the parts you dont need to offset the extra expense. Example, you buy this bike for ~$1600 but cant sell the bodywork, exhaust, headlight, or anything of value because its all scratched up or broken. OR you buy a $2500 bike and sell all those parts for a couple hundred dollars and end up with a base bike in better condition.

And FYI, your R6 isnt losing most of its value because of mileage. Those loose value because theyve basically been unchanged over a decade and new ones are rolling out constantly. I would not have one bit of hesitation sinking that $2k into your current bike instead of a clapped out 300
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I'm trying to get rid of my Red Ninja 300 2016 with about 15 miles on it...I'm just not a fan...
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I see you edited your first post to include the fact that it doesn't have a Title.

Not a problem for a track-only bike, and the price just got cut in half.

I almost bought a 300 with some damage and no Title for $1200 for a track bike. I believe it eventually sold for $900.

With a lot of damaged body panels and no Title it's not worth much to anyone unless it's going to the track, so you should be in a good position to negotiate.
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Of course all states are different, but here in NC getting a title for a vehicle without one is easy and costs $100 for a title bond. The cops check the VIN for you as part of the process, before you have to get the bond. I'd probably want a couple hundred off the price for my extra time and effort. I've done this for a motorcycle that was given to me, and I wrote up the procedure in case any NC residents ever need to go through the process.
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I believe WI makes you jump through a lot more hoops to get a Title than most.

I'd never buy a bike without a Title, especially newer than 10 years old, with the intent of getting a new Title. It would have to be a track bike only.
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