Tire Changing Station

headshrink · July 3rd, 2010, 05:27 PM

I'm wondering if this would be worth while in the future...
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...e-Changer.aspx

I currently have a nice bead-breaker, and break my back changing tires on the ground. It would be nice to change tires while upright. Has anyone ever used this? My primary concern is scratching and denting the rims. If there isn't some sort of protective material on those bars, I was thinking zip-tyeing old bicycle inner-tubes to the bars might do the trick...

HKr1 · July 3rd, 2010, 07:13 PM

Guess it would be cool with spoons. Using the no-mar bar, would have to bolt that thing to the ground.....

Broc · July 7th, 2010, 12:42 PM

Get the harbour freight for the same price then just add a no-mar bar. What I use.

headshrink · July 7th, 2010, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broc

Get the harbour freight for the same price then just add a no-mar bar. What I use.

Which one?
The Portable Tire Changer:
http://www.harborfreight.com/portabl...ger-34542.html

or the Motorcycle Tire Changer Attachment
http://www.harborfreight.com/portabl...ger-34542.html

Does the changer mar your wheel at all? Did you have to make any mods to protect it? How about mounting the tool itself?

Broc · July 7th, 2010, 02:32 PM

You need both. The tire changer stand is separate and you NEED the motorcycle attachment. I got both with coupons for $80.00 + tax. The clamps and the mounting/demount bar will scratch your rim and need attending to. I have been just cutting up wheel protecting strips to make the clamps and bar a no-mar setup. The changer is designed to bolt to the floor but I have mine bolted to a pallet with studs for portability( I do alot of other peoples tires.)

However, I will be ordering Mojoblocks(made to upgrade the harbour freight) for the wheel clamps, and a MojoBar for the no-mar mount/demount bar.

Both are here.

http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoblocks.htm
-You could actually make these yourself if you can get ahold of Nylon stock.

http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoweb.htm

Cheapest setup I've found! Plus this setup will cost me just over $200(I built a balancer myself with 2x4's and roller blade bearings.) Thats just 2 sets of tires installed, plus you can do other peoples tires. My setup has already paid for itself!

HERE are all my tire changer/balancer links...including upgrades and use of the harbour freight setup:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500556
http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html
http://zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.p...733#post990733
http://www.fz6-forum.com/forum/tire-...e-changer.html
http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/tirechange
http://www.advrider.com/Wisdom/TireChangerMods1.0.pdf

headshrink · July 7th, 2010, 03:18 PM

That is fantastic information - thank you!

Broc · July 7th, 2010, 03:48 PM

I just went to go order my Mojolever and he raised the price from $89 to $99 shipped now. I am now looking back at the actual No-Mar Bar. I have heard the Mojolever is stronger and the No-Mar Bar has a tendency to bend.

However, the No-mar bar comes with a lifetime warranty, (3) extra tips, Tire lube w/ spray bottle, Instructions, comes from an actual company, & a DVD I believe. All this for $110 shipped.

The Mojolever comes with well the Mojolever, no warranty, just a guy who makes em, and no lube

. All this for $99 shipped

Just an update! I still don't know who to go with. I'm gonna try to google more on the Mojolever.

headshrink · July 7th, 2010, 06:37 PM

Looks like a really helpful tool , but man, talk about sticker shock - $100 for a stick!

Ramen · July 7th, 2010, 07:22 PM

There's gotta be a way to affix a piece of plastic on the Harbor Freight tire changer bar so the rims don't get scratched.

g21-30 · July 8th, 2010, 03:54 AM

Before everyone jumps on the HarborFreight Band wagon, you may want to checkout this link:

http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html

HKr1 · July 8th, 2010, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broc

I just went to go order my Mojolever and he raised the price from $89 to $99 shipped now. I am now looking back at the actual No-Mar Bar. I have heard the Mojolever is stronger and the No-Mar Bar has a tendency to bend.

However, the No-mar bar comes with a lifetime warranty, (3) extra tips, Tire lube w/ spray bottle, Instructions, comes from an actual company, & a DVD I believe. All this for $110 shipped.

The Mojolever comes with well the Mojolever, no warranty, just a guy who makes em, and no lube

. All this for $99 shipped

Just an update! I still don't know who to go with. I'm gonna try to google more on the Mojolever.

No way the no-mar bar is gonna bend! The thing is beefy as all hell.... lube works great too

Broc · July 8th, 2010, 06:20 AM

There is a way(zip ties) to attach a rim/wheel saver to the end of the harbour freight mount/demount bar to prevent scratches....which I have been doing but it sucks. (Look in the links I posted above, several people show how to do it)

I had built a homemade tire changer before and used the crap out of it(Old 14" wheel and all thread.) I use to do it on the ground like Kkims DIY...no thanks kudos to that guy! It's much easier to use the HF not to mention on my back. If you are too cheap to spend a tad over $200 to do pretty much any tire for the rest of your life, thats your deal I know what I'm using! The damn thing pays for itself and can even make you money off it! Plus $200 is only (2) full sets of motorcycle tires installed...screw that!

Now, I just need to decide on a bar. There are still mixed reviews everywhere on the internet on the two.

Oh, harbour freight also sells a tire balancer for $50.00 if anyone doesn't wanna make one. It looks pretty good too.

HKr1 · July 8th, 2010, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broc

If you are too cheap to spend a tad over $200 to do pretty much any tire for the rest of your life, thats your deal I know what I'm using! The damn thing pays for itself and can even make you money off it!.

http://www.eagleequip.com/page/EE/PR...rce=GoogleBase

Broc · July 8th, 2010, 06:48 PM

haha! I am definitely too cheap for that! Might take a while to pay for itself

headshrink · July 8th, 2010, 07:27 PM

I have the HF bead breaker and tire balancer. They both work. Not the highest quality of course, but they both work.

Banzai · July 9th, 2010, 03:54 AM

May have to look at this again!

headshrink · July 9th, 2010, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banzai

May have to look at this again!

They aren't junk.... I hope that is not how it sounded, they do the job acceptably, without any problems. They are great bargins, and I wouldn't really worry about getting nicer (more $$$) stuff unless I did a LOT of tires.

headshrink · September 22nd, 2010, 10:10 AM

I probably could have added it here, but I started a related post on purchasing the HF changer here: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...719#post216719

CZroe · August 6th, 2012, 10:10 AM

I think I see a problem with all the DIY tire changer guides: The threaded rod sizes they suggest are too thick for our front axles! The No-Scuff Tire Tool guy suggests 3/4" and others I see suggest 5/8 which are both too large for our 15mm front axles:
http://scandalon.com/2009/06/motorcy...iameter-chart/

Am I missing something? Are we supposed to be removing bearings and stuff? 1/2" should fit but I assume that it could mar the bearings. There is too little clearance for a spacer or pipe and anything smaller would probably require the threaded rod to be additionally supported overhead before you start levering against it.

July 3rd, 2010, 05:27 PM	#1
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Tire Changing Station I'm wondering if this would be worth while in the future... http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...e-Changer.aspx I currently have a nice bead-breaker, and break my back changing tires on the ground. It would be nice to change tires while upright. Has anyone ever used this? My primary concern is scratching and denting the rims. If there isn't some sort of protective material on those bars, I was thinking zip-tyeing old bicycle inner-tubes to the bars might do the trick...

July 7th, 2010, 12:42 PM	#3
Broc ninjette.org member Name: Broc Location: America Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Black - Sold / 2011 Honda CB1000R Posts: 176	Get the harbour freight for the same price then just add a no-mar bar. What I use. __________________________________________________ 2009 Black 250R - Stock and staying that way. No matter what you do it's still a 250 at the end of the day! Save your money for gear, riding lessons, & a 600cc

July 7th, 2010, 02:32 PM	#5
Broc ninjette.org member Name: Broc Location: America Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Black - Sold / 2011 Honda CB1000R Posts: 176	You need both. The tire changer stand is separate and you NEED the motorcycle attachment. I got both with coupons for $80.00 + tax. The clamps and the mounting/demount bar will scratch your rim and need attending to. I have been just cutting up wheel protecting strips to make the clamps and bar a no-mar setup. The changer is designed to bolt to the floor but I have mine bolted to a pallet with studs for portability( I do alot of other peoples tires.) However, I will be ordering Mojoblocks(made to upgrade the harbour freight) for the wheel clamps, and a MojoBar for the no-mar mount/demount bar. Both are here. http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoblocks.htm -You could actually make these yourself if you can get ahold of Nylon stock. http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoweb.htm Cheapest setup I've found! Plus this setup will cost me just over $200(I built a balancer myself with 2x4's and roller blade bearings.) Thats just 2 sets of tires installed, plus you can do other peoples tires. My setup has already paid for itself! HERE are all my tire changer/balancer links...including upgrades and use of the harbour freight setup: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500556 http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html http://zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.p...733#post990733 http://www.fz6-forum.com/forum/tire-...e-changer.html http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/tirechange http://www.advrider.com/Wisdom/TireChangerMods1.0.pdf __________________________________________________ 2009 Black 250R - Stock and staying that way. No matter what you do it's still a 250 at the end of the day! Save your money for gear, riding lessons, & a 600cc

July 7th, 2010, 03:48 PM	#7
Broc ninjette.org member Name: Broc Location: America Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Black - Sold / 2011 Honda CB1000R Posts: 176	I just went to go order my Mojolever and he raised the price from $89 to $99 shipped now. I am now looking back at the actual No-Mar Bar. I have heard the Mojolever is stronger and the No-Mar Bar has a tendency to bend. However, the No-mar bar comes with a lifetime warranty, (3) extra tips, Tire lube w/ spray bottle, Instructions, comes from an actual company, & a DVD I believe. All this for $110 shipped. The Mojolever comes with well the Mojolever, no warranty, just a guy who makes em, and no lube . All this for $99 shipped Just an update! I still don't know who to go with. I'm gonna try to google more on the Mojolever. __________________________________________________ 2009 Black 250R - Stock and staying that way. No matter what you do it's still a 250 at the end of the day! Save your money for gear, riding lessons, & a 600cc

July 8th, 2010, 06:20 AM	#12
Broc ninjette.org member Name: Broc Location: America Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Black - Sold / 2011 Honda CB1000R Posts: 176	There is a way(zip ties) to attach a rim/wheel saver to the end of the harbour freight mount/demount bar to prevent scratches....which I have been doing but it sucks. (Look in the links I posted above, several people show how to do it) I had built a homemade tire changer before and used the crap out of it(Old 14" wheel and all thread.) I use to do it on the ground like Kkims DIY...no thanks kudos to that guy! It's much easier to use the HF not to mention on my back. If you are too cheap to spend a tad over $200 to do pretty much any tire for the rest of your life, thats your deal I know what I'm using! The damn thing pays for itself and can even make you money off it! Plus $200 is only (2) full sets of motorcycle tires installed...screw that! Now, I just need to decide on a bar. There are still mixed reviews everywhere on the internet on the two. Oh, harbour freight also sells a tire balancer for $50.00 if anyone doesn't wanna make one. It looks pretty good too. __________________________________________________ 2009 Black 250R - Stock and staying that way. No matter what you do it's still a 250 at the end of the day! Save your money for gear, riding lessons, & a 600cc Last futzed with by Broc; July 8th, 2010 at 07:54 AM.

July 3rd, 2010, 07:13 PM	#2
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Guess it would be cool with spoons. Using the no-mar bar, would have to bolt that thing to the ground.....

July 7th, 2010, 03:18 PM	#6
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	That is fantastic information - thank you!

July 7th, 2010, 06:37 PM	#8
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Looks like a really helpful tool , but man, talk about sticker shock - $100 for a stick!

July 7th, 2010, 07:22 PM	#9
Ramen Frak It Name: Sean Location: SWFL Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 199	There's gotta be a way to affix a piece of plastic on the Harbor Freight tire changer bar so the rims don't get scratched.

July 8th, 2010, 03:54 AM	#10
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Before everyone jumps on the HarborFreight Band wagon, you may want to checkout this link: http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html

July 8th, 2010, 06:48 PM	#14
Broc ninjette.org member Name: Broc Location: America Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Black - Sold / 2011 Honda CB1000R Posts: 176	haha! I am definitely too cheap for that! Might take a while to pay for itself __________________________________________________ 2009 Black 250R - Stock and staying that way. No matter what you do it's still a 250 at the end of the day! Save your money for gear, riding lessons, & a 600cc

July 8th, 2010, 07:27 PM	#15
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I have the HF bead breaker and tire balancer. They both work. Not the highest quality of course, but they both work.

July 9th, 2010, 03:54 AM	#16
Banzai Psychic war veteran Name: Thomas Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Kawi Green '09 Ninja ZX6R Posts: 663	May have to look at this again! __________________________________________________ * If you're arguing with some idiot over the internet, chances are pretty good he's doing the same thing! Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Reaction

September 22nd, 2010, 10:10 AM	#18
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I probably could have added it here, but I started a related post on purchasing the HF changer here: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...719#post216719

August 6th, 2012, 10:10 AM	#19
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	I think I see a problem with all the DIY tire changer guides: The threaded rod sizes they suggest are too thick for our front axles! The No-Scuff Tire Tool guy suggests 3/4" and others I see suggest 5/8 which are both too large for our 15mm front axles: http://scandalon.com/2009/06/motorcy...iameter-chart/ Am I missing something? Are we supposed to be removing bearings and stuff? 1/2" should fit but I assume that it could mar the bearings. There is too little clearance for a spacer or pipe and anything smaller would probably require the threaded rod to be additionally supported overhead before you start levering against it.

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